Payment Processors without VISA/MC Yearly Fee? - GoFuckYourself.com

srockhard · 08-18-2013, 09:45 PM

Can anyone recommend payment processors besides Zombaio that don't require the yearly fee to accept VISA or MasterCard?

bean-aid · 08-18-2013, 09:55 PM

Payment processors is synomonous with adult. There is such a thing as billing yourself. Just something to think about.

The Porn Nerd · 08-18-2013, 09:56 PM

Bitcoin?

sojproductions · 08-18-2013, 10:03 PM

think the fee is unavoidable now since mastercard added their fee. Tried to open an EU epoch account last week just to pick up a few declines on a small site, the $500 fee was non-negotiable with or without mastercard included.

srockhard · 08-18-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

Payment processors is synomonous with adult. There is such a thing as billing yourself. Just something to think about.

huh? I'm not following you?

bean-aid · 08-18-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sojproductions

think the fee is unavoidable now since mastercard added their fee. Tried to open an EU epoch account last week just to pick up a few declines on a small site, the $500 fee was non-negotiable with or without mastercard included.

The fee is for mastercard, what was the Visa fee?

bean-aid · 08-18-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by srockhard

huh? I'm not following you?

I know... most don't. I can't explain it in any more.

Let me leave you with a graph.... then just email me if you want to get the lowdown:

Gator · 08-18-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

Payment processors is synomonous with adult. There is such a thing as billing yourself. Just something to think about.

Then you need your own fraud screening, affiliate software, ect. Who can do that without big capitol? Many peeps are small biz and small biz should be embraced.

bean-aid · 08-18-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gator

Then you need your own fraud screening, affiliate software, ect. Who can do that without big capitol? Many peeps are small biz and small biz should be embraced.

I can. And I am taking on partners.

Voland 13 · 08-18-2013, 11:25 PM

Why don't you want to use Zombaio ? They are very good for small companies , paysites.

Ager · 08-18-2013, 11:35 PM

PayTechnique

pamon · 08-19-2013, 12:05 AM

visa at $500 and mc at $500 per adds up to $1k/yr in fees. for a smaller site that can hurt, but larger networks is a non-issue. Kind of a BS fee for Visa/MC though

brassmonkey · 08-19-2013, 12:15 AM

the fee is because high fraud in adult.

" charging the $500 fee is a decision MasterCard has made to help it manage what it deems are high-risk sales."

- ccbill

srockhard · 08-19-2013, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Voland 13

Why don't you want to use Zombaio ? They are very good for small companies , paysites.

I already have Zombaio and dont have any issues with them. Just looking to cascade.

sojproductions · 08-19-2013, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner

The fee is for mastercard, what was the Visa fee?

It was a flat $500 fee for all payment options, when we requested removing mastercard we were told the fee would still be $500. Being an EU account there was no visa fee before. It was going to be for a small site second int eh cascade so it wouldn't of picked up much, so maybe it was judged that way

xxxcoupon · 08-19-2013, 06:09 AM

Adult transactions I get = rarely any fraud
Fraud charges my wifes online scrapbook store got - atleast 1 or 2 a week with 25% of the volume my adult transaction have

adult is soooo high risk tho

NETbilling · 08-19-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gator

Then you need your own fraud screening, affiliate software, ect. Who can do that without big capitol? Many peeps are small biz and small biz should be embraced.

Not true at all. we process for thousands of merchants with their own merchant accounts and handle all processing, fraud scrubbing and customer service.

fitzmulti · 08-19-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Voland 13

Why don't you want to use Zombaio ? They are very good for small companies , paysites.

fitzmulti · 08-19-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pamon

visa at $500 and mc at $500 per adds up to $1k/yr in fees. for a smaller site that can hurt, but larger networks is a non-issue. Kind of a BS fee for Visa/MC though

Agreed. It absolutely is a BS / BOGUS fee...yet, a cost of doing business....

NETBilling-Andy · 08-19-2013, 03:35 PM

You may be looking at a fee from anyone legitimately processing Visa/MC - but how much you pay for processing and all the support is the key. I would be happy to send you a quote for all costs involved if you're interested. Thanks!

Zeiss · 08-19-2013, 03:43 PM

Check sig, dude. Integrate mobile payment and subscription. Else you leave lots of $ on the table.

Gator · 08-19-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling

Not true at all. we process for thousands of merchants with their own merchant accounts and handle all processing, fraud scrubbing and customer service.

Thanks for the info.

SwirlsGirl · 08-19-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Voland 13

Why don't you want to use Zombaio ? They are very good for small companies , paysites.

SwirlsGirl · 08-19-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

I know... most don't. I can't explain it in any more.

Let me leave you with a graph.... then just email me if you want to get the lowdown:

3rd party - 3% form submissions with a bunch of stuttering billing reps and yo yo ratios

versus

merch account - 50% form submissions with no billing rep (middle man) and steady stable ratios

= No brainer

Gator · 08-20-2013, 02:22 PM

Questions

How does Zombaio stay in business paying the Visa/MC fees? There must be small clients that don't do enough transactions to recover the costs. Do they rely on big clients to offset that?

NETbilling · 08-22-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

I know... most don't. I can't explain it in any more.

Let me leave you with a graph.... then just email me if you want to get the lowdown:

Nice graph

bean-aid · 08-22-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling

Nice graph

Thank you

The beauty of that graph is it is actually real, and the method to get there was using common sense, A MERCHANT ACCOUNT, etc.

NETbilling · 08-27-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner

Thank you

The beauty of that graph is it is actually real, and the method to get there was using common sense, A MERCHANT ACCOUNT, etc.

Some peeps just don't get it.

VTmerchantsupport · 09-17-2013, 11:33 AM

Hi,

For new accounts that can show a current processing volume of the last 6 months of over 100 EUR/week processing, we can waive the 500 EUR registration fee for premium accounts. If you are looking for a new processor this may be a good option for you!

Regards,

Thomas
Verotel Merchant Support

freecartoonporn · 09-17-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by VTmerchantsupport

Hi,

For new accounts that can show a current processing volume of the last 6 months of over 100 EUR/week processing, we can waive the 500 EUR registration fee for premium accounts. If you are looking for a new processor this may be a good option for you!

Regards,

Thomas
Verotel Merchant Support

thats 400 euro per month which is 533 USD per month in transactions.

for 29.95 membership thats like 17.7 sales/rebills
and
for 19.95 membership thats 26.7 sales / rebills , thats one sale a day

paysites model is pretty bad and for smaller paysites its worst than ever.

rather i would register llc in eu for getting visa for free and ditch MC

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Gator Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Don't live on GFY Posts: 1,119	Questions How does Zombaio stay in business paying the Visa/MC fees? There must be small clients that don't do enough transactions to recover the costs. Do they rely on big clients to offset that?

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VTmerchantsupport Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 17	Hi, For new accounts that can show a current processing volume of the last 6 months of over 100 EUR/week processing, we can waive the 500 EUR registration fee for premium accounts. If you are looking for a new processor this may be a good option for you! Regards, Thomas Verotel Merchant Support