Cohiba Cigars - anyone that attends Amsterdam or Budapest interested?

[MaDalton]

I brought Cohiba cigars from Cuba - Cohiba Esplendidos - a box like this:

http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/cohiba-esp...igar-p-66.html

i dont smoke anyways - so anyone interested?

i know there are a few among you that love cigars

[JFK]

YES, I Do

[NETbilling]

Yes please save me one

[CE Adam]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

I brought Cohiba cigars from Cuba - Cohiba Esplendidos - a box like this:

http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/cohiba-esp...igar-p-66.html

i dont smoke anyways - so anyone interested?

i know there are a few among you that love cigars

Hell Yeah!
Stop by our table at the Meet Market and we will swap drink tickets for cubans
Or maybe I will just buy the box from you

[AllAboutCams]

Fuck me how much did you pay in Cuba for them

[Spunky]

Huge black market on Cohibas.hope you didn't buy them off the beach.Craigslist is filled with scammers.they have rollers that pick up the scraps off the cigar factory floors and make them up and flog to unsuspecting tourists.Only buy from their government stores

[geedub]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Huge black market on Cohibas.hope you didn't buy them off the beach.Craigslist is filled with scammers.they have rollers that pick up the scraps off the cigar factory floors and make them up and flog to unsuspecting tourists.Only buy from their government stores

There are fakes with legit boxes and the stickers as well, sometimes with improper serials but really I have seen some insanely good fakes after a few trips to Cuba.

[klinton]

got few from Dominican Republic, each is around 1,5 usd.....

but anyway, each good/stuff its worth exactly that much what you want to pay for it...at least that say Arabs while you bargain ;-)

[PornDiscounts-V]

Most overblown cigar brand ever. They actually aren't all that great. There are so many other cigar brands that moved out of Cuba after Fidel took over and set up shop in Nicaragua and Dominican Republic. Arturo Fuente, Padron, Montecristo, Partagas, Rocky Patel (not there for Castro, but better than a Cohiba(90,92))... the list goes on.

Calling a Cohiba a quality cigar just because Castro liked it for some odd/off reason is like saying this is a quality high end car just because Porsche made it:



Look at those two. Living the dream.

[lucas131]

great, maybe we can empty one and fill it with ganja, cant wait!

[geedub]

Originally Posted by vvvvv

Most overblown cigar brand ever. They actually aren't all that great. There are so many other cigar brands that moved out of Cuba after Fidel took over and set up shop in Nicaragua and Dominican Republic. Arturo Fuente, Padron, Montecristo, Partagas, Rocky Patel (not there for Castro, but better than a Cohiba(90,92))... the list goes on.

Calling a Cohiba a quality cigar just because Castro liked it for some odd/off reason is like saying this is a quality high end car just because Porsche made it:



Look at those two. Living the dream.

Everyone says this and while I agree to an extent, truth is, I never had a Cuban cigar I liked that I didn't purchase myself from Casa del Habano in Cuba. Any Cuban I have purchased outside of Cuba was 100% fake and unappealing. This includes "legit" Habanos S.A. retailers. For me nothing beats an actual Partagas Serie D #4.

[just a punk]

Offtopic: does anybody me prefer Honduras cigars over Dominican and Cuban ones, like I do? I mean something like "Don Tomas" or similar?

[MaDalton]

right now we are at $5 per cigar

and i know that there are a lot of fakes - make up your own mind - i was assured they're real but you never know...

[Spunky]

It's missing the Cohiba decal on the inside lid.One of the signs is the dots should be raised on the logo. and should have a time/place stamp on the bottom of the box

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by vvvvv

Most overblown cigar brand ever. They actually aren't all that great. There are so many other cigar brands that moved out of Cuba after Fidel took over and set up shop in Nicaragua and Dominican Republic. Arturo Fuente, Padron, Montecristo, Partagas, Rocky Patel (not there for Castro, but better than a Cohiba(90,92))... the list goes on.

Calling a Cohiba a quality cigar just because Castro liked it for some odd/off reason is like saying this is a quality high end car just because Porsche made it:



Look at those two. Living the dream.

You think those are world renowned because of Castro liking them?

Ha.

[Matyko]

LOL, next to the Buddha Hotel:
http://www.sapientia.hu/en/eng_greeting
Sounds like a place to do a heavyweight afterparty!

[MaDalton]

well - in the worst case i'll be handing them out for free - sponsored by www.AmazingContent.com ;)

[PornDiscounts-V]

Can you take a picture of the end cap of one? Like where it takes up the entire picture?


This up close and personal, only the other end of the cigar:


http://www.casasfumando.com/wp-conte...a_behike_4.jpg

Also another close picture of a cigars label.

[PornDiscounts-V]

Actually, I don't have to see that. I can already tell you these are fake because of the irregularity in them...




A true Cohiba is rolled by a master. It is never rolled by anybody other than a master. This also goes with any other high end Cuban cigar. It also goes for any cigar rolled by hand and costs more than $8 per cigar.

Your cigars are not rolled by a master.

Notice these cigars:


(These look like good fakes)

They are all the same length almost exactly. They are all uniformly rolled.

They don't have ribs which your cigars do have. Your cigars have 2 to 3 millimeter diameter ribs. No Cuban cigar will ever use leaves with such massive ribs as it makes them look less uniform.

Color variations... Look at cigar 4 counting from the left. The top leaf is much darker and grayer than the rest. Cuban cigars would never use leaves that aren't perfectly uniform in color.

In my photo you can see the discoloration of the ribs, but they don't rise up off the cigar.

Look at the end caps on my example. How perfectly uniform they are. Your end caps look like Frankenstein 1.0, 2.0, 2.2.2, 2.3, 4.5 etc... All over the place with variations.

Also notice your cigars look like they are anorexic compared to my example.

You have 4 white dots in the grid. There should only be 3. Your fakes are based off of an old way of doing the bands. The band color is off and the lettering for the Habanos, Cuba is not correctly gapped top to bottom.

Here are some real cubans...



Notice how uniform they are. Color, shape, consistent! They have visible ribs, but they don't make protrusions.

Here is the BIG KICKER!

Those cigars were made with wrappers that Cuban cigar companies wouldn't even consider buying. So the tobacco inside them is probably of the same type. It would not surprise me if it was the cast offs from a DR factory. So all in all they are 50 cent cigars and will taste like it.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Spunky

It's missing the Cohiba decal on the inside lid.One of the signs is the dots should be raised on the logo. and should have a time/place stamp on the bottom of the box

Its most likely a Liberated Box. even in the stores if they are sure the person does not know any better they will sell you a liberated box first.

[klinton]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

well - in the worst case i'll be handing them out for free - sponsored by www.AmazingContent.com ;)

no worries, even fake cohibas made in carribean are good deal... they have good stuff there ..noy for 5 usd though ;]

[klinton]

Originally Posted by lucas131

great, maybe we can empty one and fill it with ganja, cant wait!

they actually do like that in dominican....they dont use papers for joints

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by klinton

they actually do like that in dominican....they dont use papers for joints

Blunt = Ganja in cigar paper

[geedub]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Its most likely a Liberated Box. even in the stores if they are sure the person does not know any better they will sell you a liberated box first.

That's correct. The levels of quality control at the factories are insane as well, if anyone is in Havana for a day or two and never has, I highly recommend a tour of the Partagas factory, it's very impressive for what they turn out on a daily basis.

[klinton]

Originally Posted by Matyko

Blunt = Ganja in cigar paper

cheech&chong, mexican americans ;-)

[Grapesoda]

used to be a guy in downtown LA hand making cigars.. . little place about the size of a 1 car garage... bunch of old guys sitting around rolling cigars...Leon's I think... looks like it's still there, in K Town

https://plus.google.com/116068283936...ut?gl=us&hl=en

[PornDiscounts-V]

I will have to check that spot out and smoke a few.

One of the most important things to know about a cigar is that you aren't supposed to smoke it right after they roll it. Doing so would be like drinking a wine or a whiskey right after they put it into the aging barrel.

Buy a box, put them into a humidor. Let them sit for 3 to 5 years. Take them out. You will find that even a dog $3 cigar will taste like it is a 1 year old $8 cigar. An $8 cigar will taste like it is a 2 year old $25 cigar.

Aging them mellows them a shit ton. If it is peppery as all fuck then try aging it until it is a bit more creamy.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by vvvvv

Actually, I don't have to see that. I can already tell you these are fake because of the irregularity in them...




A true Cohiba is rolled by a master. It is never rolled by anybody other than a master. This also goes with any other high end Cuban cigar. It also goes for any cigar rolled by hand and costs more than $8 per cigar.

Your cigars are not rolled by a master.

Notice these cigars:


(These look like good fakes)

They are all the same length almost exactly. They are all uniformly rolled.

They don't have ribs which your cigars do have. Your cigars have 2 to 3 millimeter diameter ribs. No Cuban cigar will ever use leaves with such massive ribs as it makes them look less uniform.

Color variations... Look at cigar 4 counting from the left. The top leaf is much darker and grayer than the rest. Cuban cigars would never use leaves that aren't perfectly uniform in color.

In my photo you can see the discoloration of the ribs, but they don't rise up off the cigar.

Look at the end caps on my example. How perfectly uniform they are. Your end caps look like Frankenstein 1.0, 2.0, 2.2.2, 2.3, 4.5 etc... All over the place with variations.

Also notice your cigars look like they are anorexic compared to my example.

You have 4 white dots in the grid. There should only be 3. Your fakes are based off of an old way of doing the bands. The band color is off and the lettering for the Habanos, Cuba is not correctly gapped top to bottom.

Here are some real cubans...



Notice how uniform they are. Color, shape, consistent! They have visible ribs, but they don't make protrusions.

Here is the BIG KICKER!

Those cigars were made with wrappers that Cuban cigar companies wouldn't even consider buying. So the tobacco inside them is probably of the same type. It would not surprise me if it was the cast offs from a DR factory. So all in all they are 50 cent cigars and will taste like it.

Right on

[AllAboutCams]

Ok so whats a good cigar to keep for a few years im interested in trying