How does Clips4sale survive? - GoFuckYourself.com

dave90210 · 11-20-2013, 11:34 PM

Membership sites have trouble making money but clips4sale doesn't, people rather pay for clips?

klinton · 11-20-2013, 11:47 PM

they have GREAT content with good exposition of it..........

mikesouth · 11-21-2013, 01:33 AM

Theres riches in niches plain and simple

KyleC · 11-25-2013, 01:40 PM

A majority of the producers are updating daily. Sick, perverted sinners are always buying footage and they become addicts to the fetish porn.

uniquemkt · 11-25-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleC

A majority of the producers are updating daily. Sick, perverted sinners are always buying footage and they become addicts to the fetish porn.

Somehow read that as Shriners... In my head that's still better.

NaughtyRob · 11-25-2013, 02:07 PM

They make TONS of $, its always ben a great concept and even better concept after most sites tanked because of the tubes.

RandyRandy · 11-25-2013, 02:14 PM

People want new content. Enough are willing to pay for it. You can only masturbate to the same image so many times (at least, I have that limitation).

Penny24Seven · 11-25-2013, 02:31 PM

Iremember making 25K a month on C4S. I remember making 20K and then 15K and then 10K and then 1K and then saying WTF

DWB · 11-25-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

Iremember making 25K a month on C4S. I remember making 20K and then 15K and then 10K and then 1K and then saying WTF

Whoa... really?

How long was the time frame? That's insane.

candidpro · 11-25-2013, 02:58 PM

they make 40% from every clip sold, that's a huge chunk that's how they do it,,,

Tofu · 11-25-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Theres riches in niches plain and simple

Exactly, Mike.

mrgica · 11-25-2013, 03:04 PM

Maybe he survives on macaroni...(and maybe cheese)

mineistaken · 11-25-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

Iremember making 25K a month on C4S. I remember making 20K and then 15K and then 10K and then 1K and then saying WTF

Good illustration for those trying to say that free porn does not destroyed most of the business. Of course you have to consider other factors here - maybe he updated less, maybe more competitors shooting same niche emerged etc.

xNetworx · 11-25-2013, 04:05 PM

Lots of niche content there not found on big tubes

Barefootsies · 11-25-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

Iremember making 25K a month on C4S. I remember making 20K and then 15K and then 10K and then 1K and then saying WTF

Alice22 · 11-25-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

Iremember making 25K a month on C4S. I remember making 20K and then 15K and then 10K and then 1K and then saying WTF

What do you think is the reason for such a huge download?

NaughtyRob · 11-25-2013, 06:18 PM

In my opinion more producers...

for example say back in like 2009 there were 50 clip sites with jerk off instruction videos. I bet there are now 300 or more.

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Originally Posted by Alice22

What do you think is the reason for such a huge download?

Alice22 · 11-25-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

In my opinion more producers...

for example say back in like 2009 there were 50 clip sites with jerk off instruction videos. I bet there are now 300 or more.

Yep, i think you are right.
This is the first thing that come to my mind.
Even micro niche fetish, can became overdone, lol.

mineistaken · 11-25-2013, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

In my opinion more producers...

for example say back in like 2009 there were 50 clip sites with jerk off instruction videos. I bet there are now 300 or more.

Still 6 times more producers, 25 times less sales... Like I already said, more producers was big impact, but free porn even bigger. Even with small niches part of the surfers dropped to free wagon. Especially those that were not loyal fanatics of certain niches.

Alice22 · 11-25-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Still 6 times more producers, 25 times less sales... Like I already said, more producers was big impact, but free porn even bigger. Even with small niches part of the surfers dropped to free wagon. Especially those that were not loyal fanatics of certain niches.

I was searching for one specific small niche (need to know how to shoot the content in a right way), anyway...haven't find anything on any tube.
So i had no choose - and bought the clips.

Big fetish markets , like femdom, are also can find for free, but small niches still not there.

DAMNMAN · 11-25-2013, 06:55 PM

The people who put clips on C4S are doing micro-niche type stuff. Some of this can't be had anywhere else.
The folks putting up the clips are marketing their own clips and linking from every blog, post, hosting site they can think of. C4S has a huge presence and 30,000 member stores. (active or not)

They are doing OK.

Mainstream porn just doesn't get it, and doesn't do well on C4S, it's all about the personal kink.
It's all about finding creepy dudes that like the same creepy thing you do and making some creepy clips for them.

InfoGuy · 11-25-2013, 08:40 PM

C4S has not only survived, but they acquired MovieDollars / HotMovies earlier this year.

bronco67 · 11-25-2013, 08:42 PM

They have clips, and they're for sale. You do the math.

johnnyloadproductions · 11-25-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

Iremember making 25K a month on C4S. I remember making 20K and then 15K and then 10K and then 1K and then saying WTF

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Originally Posted by DWB

Whoa... really?

How long was the time frame? That's insane.

You get someone different every time you talk to the clips4sales guys. The person I talked to had one of the top clip stores for a while. He said he hadn't produced anything for a long time and was still making $1k a month.
Things where somebody pays $2k to watch a wife shave a husbands head. Granted some of the other crazy things I've seen people pay for.

$25k? Maybe for the top store, that must be several years ago.

RyuLion · 11-25-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Theres riches in niches plain and simple

micro niches will never die..

bronco67 · 11-25-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

Iremember making 25K a month on C4S. I remember making 20K and then 15K and then 10K and then 1K and then saying WTF

With a site like Clips4Sale, can it get its material flooded on the torrents like other porn? Could it be that more people figured out how to see your stuff somewhere else for free and there was giant uptick in theft?

MaDalton · 11-25-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy

C4S has not only survived, but they acquired MovieDollars / HotMovies earlier this year.

i was just going to say - to buy something like Hot Movies you need to do better than just surviving..

adultmobile · 11-25-2013, 09:23 PM

Real user generated/submitted content, is like cams, it is not staged porn by studios, this is why survived.

11-20-2013, 11:34 PM	#1
dave90210 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,745	How does Clips4sale survive? Membership sites have trouble making money but clips4sale doesn't, people rather pay for clips?

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RandyRandy Clips still sell! Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Crown Heights, Brooklyn Posts: 1,708	People want new content. Enough are willing to pay for it. You can only masturbate to the same image so many times (at least, I have that limitation).

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11-25-2013, 06:55 PM	#21
DAMNMAN Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,440	The people who put clips on C4S are doing micro-niche type stuff. Some of this can't be had anywhere else. The folks putting up the clips are marketing their own clips and linking from every blog, post, hosting site they can think of. C4S has a huge presence and 30,000 member stores. (active or not) They are doing OK. Mainstream porn just doesn't get it, and doesn't do well on C4S, it's all about the personal kink. It's all about finding creepy dudes that like the same creepy thing you do and making some creepy clips for them. __________________ email: zmaster (at) earthlink.net ICQ: 196678616 ZMASTER One less god!!! I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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