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Old 11-23-2013, 10:14 AM   #1
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Why do programs have $300 Minimum Pay ?

How about if you want to test few things out and send few joins. They get to keep?
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:21 AM   #2
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some have that in the sign-up but actually pay out at a lower amount.
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:27 AM   #3
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Because they don't give a shit about small or savvy affiliates.
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1. because of transfer fees
2. because of fraud protection - they can check your traffic and leads before pay you. If you make some fraud sugnups they will not be active enough and merchant can detect them. In this case your account is gone and all earnings.
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:33 AM   #5
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Because they don't give a shit about small or savvy affiliates.
Could be very well true
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what programs have 300 min ?
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:06 AM   #7
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To not pay the 1 or 2 saler. To reduce the numbet of payees.
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dating program right? when pps is 50-100+ the mins tend to be higher.
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trying to avoid paying seemybucks is $250 if they get paid you should be paid
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trying to avoid paying seemybucks is $250 if they get paid you should be paid
Seriously? Did they change it when they moved to NATS?
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Seriously? Did they change it when they moved to NATS?
$150 could have sworn it was 2 fiddy
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1. because of transfer fees
2. because of fraud protection - they can check your traffic and leads before pay you. If you make some fraud sugnups they will not be active enough and merchant can detect them. In this case your account is gone and all earnings.
like he said ^
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1. because of transfer fees
2. because of fraud protection - they can check your traffic and leads before pay you. If you make some fraud sugnups they will not be active enough and merchant can detect them. In this case your account is gone and all earnings.
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I have few hundred bucks stuck at few places and I just noticed that today. Could buy me the new Xbox One with that lol
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1. because of transfer fees
2. because of fraud protection - they can check your traffic and leads before pay you. If you make some fraud sugnups they will not be active enough and merchant can detect them. In this case your account is gone and all earnings.


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I have few hundred bucks stuck at few places and I just noticed that today. Could buy me the new Xbox One with that lol
If the money has been there a while, contact the companies and see if they'll send you the money via paxum or a check. Doesn't hurt to ask
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I have few hundred bucks stuck at few places and I just noticed that today. Could buy me the new Xbox One with that lol
i have money all over the place i had fedex drop a check off 500 and some change total wtf moment but yeah some programs just keep the money. fucking thieves
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It used to be $50

Then it was $100

Now $300

It will be $1000 or more soon.

and yes it becase most will never hit $300 so they keep it.
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It used to be $50

Then it was $100

Now $300

It will be $1000 or more soon.

and yes it becase most will never hit $300 so they keep it.
It's a great temp fix for companies having money problems to raise the minimum. It gives them better cash flow so they can hang on n extra month or two. I've seen it a few times.

Usually a company with such a high minimum will be high maintenance in other ways too for a small or medium sized individual affiliate.
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mo money for you to keep from smaller affiliates. dont cry when the illegal tubes clean you out karma
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For a new affiliate signup it is reasonable to hold funds below a certain amount, for fraud prevention and basic admin fees and time costs.

For a long standing affiliate, the payout should be lowered, particularly if it's going to take them a while to get to it (or they've stopped sending traffic)

Wouldn't be too hard for programs to send out a payment at the end of each financial year.

One wonders how many programs do not actually have all affiliate funds on hand though. Those small unpaid balances probably accumulate to a nice chunk of change, an interest free loan...
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Affiliates always think programs are trying to screw them but the reality is most decisions are based on developing strategies not to get burned by shady affiliates because programs had previously bent over backward and lubed up anally trying to make the affiliate happy only to be burned... keeping the cycle turning

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Money is money. Would you say the same if the OP had 10 or 20 programs with a $250 unpaid balance?
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I think a higher payout is valid, but $100 seems to be reasonable since they pass on the cost to the affiliate for payouts.

The ones that are higher sometimes I think it is just to keep peoples' money. Some even raise the payout then close the program so it is impossible to ever reach the minimum.
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Money is money. Would you say the same if the OP had 10 or 20 programs with a $250 unpaid balance?
And what about the fees? A wire transfer at $100 would mean i get about $60 id rather wait for a higher sum than mess around getting less.
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And what about the fees? A wire transfer at $100 would mean i get about $60 id rather wait for a higher sum than mess around getting less.
Is that you choosing a higher payout v one being put on you?
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I asked ccbill to wait for a higher amount and the rest pay by paxum
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If you are settling by a wire transfer it's always significantly higher. If programs are trying to set higher limits then it's a numbers game as it takes more time to get to that limit - most smaller webmasters give up and leave it leaving programs with a hidden bit of gold.

We have ours at 100$ and have many webmasters not actively promoting anymore and we will not settle until this plateau is reached. A good point in researching programs to promote - if the limits are higher and you are a lower traffic promoted, be patient and make sure you invest the time to get paid.
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We set it at $20.
However we had it at $10 at start, then we figured lots of people really asked payment at $10 and so we've set to $20 - just for less fees and handling. I am sure if you set payout at $2, you'll have many $2 payouts to do - do not understimate the amount of kiddies who signup programs.
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And what about the fees? A wire transfer at $100 would mean i get about $60 id rather wait for a higher sum than mess around getting less.
You've turned it around. You're talking about being able to raise payments to minimise losses for an expensive transfer (wire) when I was talking about the affiliate being able to choose the appropriate minimum themselves. I'm sure USA affiliates don't mind paying $1.50 or whatever to have ccbill mail their $25+ cheque to them.
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If you are settling by a wire transfer it's always significantly higher. If programs are trying to set higher limits then it's a numbers game as it takes more time to get to that limit - most smaller webmasters give up and leave it leaving programs with a hidden bit of gold.

We have ours at 100$ and have many webmasters not actively promoting anymore and we will not settle until this plateau is reached. A good point in researching programs to promote - if the limits are higher and you are a lower traffic promoted, be patient and make sure you invest the time to get paid.
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If the money has been there a while, contact the companies and see if they'll send you the money via paxum or a check. Doesn't hurt to ask
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