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The Bitcoin Conspiracy
For those who haven't seen it, here's what's known as the Bitcoin conspiracy.
![]() http://chycho.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11...oinConspiracy: "As for the Conspiracy; there has been some talk that the government is behind Bitcoin (2), so I thought I?d preserve a little thread that was posted on the Conspiracy subReddit. The comments are well worth reading. Thank you nicolaosq for bringing up the topic. Bitcoin Was Created By DARPA There is no way to stop what is going to happen to bitcoin. It's an issue of sociology. It's an issue of human greed. It's an issue as to WHO created bitcoin and WHY. Who is the single largest holder of BTC right now? "Satoshi". Who is he? I will say it again. NSA/DARPA created bitcoin under the guidance of the IMF. The IMF has been openly calling for a digital, one-world, deflationary currency for 2 decades. OPENLY. It has been discussed and promoted OPENLY at G8 and G20 summits. from the early 90s-96 the NSA was OPENLY investigating cryptographic money networks. http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/clas...nt/nsamint.htm One of their researchers and investigators is a man named Tatsuaki Okamoto. When they actively started writing the code they chose the pseudonym "Satoshi Nakamura" to ultimately promote the idea that Tatsuaki Okamoto to any and all who investigated the source of bitcoin long enough. But Tatsuaki Okamoto is just a cog. He's not some rogue savoir out to topple centralized banks. Not at all. He is a crypto scientist who was paid by government and intelligence agencies to do research. Bitcoin is an NSA/DARPA lab set into the wild. Scientific technology grants issued by government and intelligence agencies are how these labs are funded and promoted. The regulation and control of bitcoin has been actively developed alongside the development of the network. In fact, the controls, policy and regulation are WAY WAY more mature than the bitcoin protocol itself. That's why we see things like Greenlist written into law without a mention of bitcoin until recently. This is not tinfoil hattish. This is just reality. No one forced ANYONE to believe the Satoshi fairytale.. The libertarian Satoshi myth has been promoted in stealth to specifically promote ADOPTION and DEVELOPMENT. It's no different than the internet and WWW itself. EXACTLY the same. That is why you see many www early adopters saying bitcoin "feels" the same as the early internet. I am one of those people. In 94-96 the public internet was ALL about freedom of information. FREE COMMUNICATION. It was ALL about liberty and freedom. I wish i could transport some of you back in time so you could see for yourselves. The promise of free phonecalls with the freeworlddialup, free media with IUMA and the MBONE. All this freedom and liberty had people pouring their heart and soul into developing it. Now look at it. Facebook, google.. it is a GIANT SURVEILLANCE grid. And if you look for and read DARPA/NSA docs from the 80s and early 90s that was what it was always meant to be. I am not discounting all the socially great things that happen online.. But from the perspective of DARPA/NSA and control freaks.. it was created for the express purpose of control. A military purpose. A strategic purpose. What is bitcoin? Bitcoin IS the one world digital currency. We all have a deterministic UUID that has been generated from our biometric data. This UUID will be related to all your datastores. This UUID is your mark. This UUID is what is used to buy and sell online and in the real world. This UUID is the primary key in your Greenlist identity. Coinbase, blockchain.info and it would appear Coinsetter are inline to be the first to roll out the incoming policy and regulation. This policy and regulation is WORLD WIDE. It is CORPORATE. It is not about governments. Governments ADOPT corporate organized policies. If you think this is new than you need to investigate ACH and NACHA. https://www.nacha.org/aboutus http://www.slideshare.net/Earthport/...-services-hsbc Bitcoin is THEIR network. And for the minority early adopters that is going to be a hard pill to swallow.. But for those in the know.. Like Gavin, it's PAYDAY. Realization and monetization of their massive bitcoin holdings is being guaranteed by regulators. That is why they are all literally RUSHING to regulate. Legitimization of bitcoin is all about hosted wallets. The centralization of bitcoin. Hosted wallet providers approve/dissaprove transactions before they are actually issued on the network. Greenlist enabled wallets will be the fastest. (offline transactions). Greenlist enabled wallets will be hooked directly to your bank account, ease of buying and selling. Greenlist enabled exchanges will have the largest market with the best prices. Greenlist enabled wallets will completely eliminate risk of stolen coins. No more security worries AT ALL. And this is what the masses have come to expect. And this is why it's going to happen. And Greenlisted wallets will be accepted everywhere. And in the physical world you will identify yourself and your wallet with your biometrics. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173715.0 TL;DR bitcoin is a global digital currency, regulation was created in tandem with development and adoption, bitcoin is not and never was meant to be a liberty promoting value exchange. There is no "satoshi". The central banks are already the largest holders of bitcoin. Bitcoin IS going to the moon because of this. " http://chycho.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11...oinConspiracy:
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Interesting stuff but one in the eye for those that believe the currency is secure and anonymous.
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too much for reading , bookmarked ..
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"The (__insert conspiracy here__) Conspiracy"
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Those theories are so far fetched and clearly written by someone who has not done their research on cryptocurrencies.
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the "peanut butter and jelly sandwich" conspiracy
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every popular story has a conspiracy behind it. so convenient. in reality is all about views on websites.
one question for the 'believers' of this..why would the evil men who hide in the shadows allow regular people to get rich from this?
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You using the word conspiracy is redundant
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Bitcoin has the fingerprints of the elite on; just like Facebook, Google, Twitter, Anonymous and Occupy (Syrian/Libyan Rebels too), they pretend it's nothing to do with them to encourage us to embrace it.
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You really give the cia far too much credit for things...
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Why would the US govt create a currency that would undermine the USD? China is promoting bitcoin because they think it will undermine the dollar.
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http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4311
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why would goldman sachs loan money to the greeks under the table, which would destabilize the euro zone that puts the USD into jeopardy, making every dollar they make irrelevant?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Dunning_%28author%29 " In June 2010, Dunning was indicted on charges of wire fraud by a Federal grand jury. On April 15, 2013, Dunning pleaded guilty to wire fraud in a plea agreement with Federal prosecutors." "In August 2008, eBay filed suit against Dunning and his brother, accusing them of defrauding eBay and eBay affiliates of $5.2 million in a cookie stuffing scheme for their company, Kessler's Flying Circus. In June 2010, based on the same allegations and following an investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, a grand jury indicted Dunning on charges of wire fraud."
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You just irritate me so I'm quoting you. Goldman Sachs is run by Greeks????
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Since I have heard that CIA or FBI created bitcoins alo of years ago, so it would not suprise me if they are the ones pulling the strings when it comes to bitcoins.
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