Why do most extreme cases of animal cruelty hardly ever result in jail sentences ??

[Scott McD]

Makes me sick to my stomach.

I will only post the link to the article but beware of some horrific pics if clicking.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rve-death.html


I hope someone local takes matters into their own hands and deals with those fuckers personally...

[kittykatt]

poor babies!

[mikesouth]

right or wrong in all states animals are considered property and in our legal system crimes involving your own property are difficult prosecute not saying its right but it is what it is

for instance if someone kills your dog you are only entitled to the money you paid to purchase the dog or what the dog is worth on the open market. no punitive damages are allowed

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

right or wrong in all states animals are considered property and in our legal system crimes involving your own property are difficult prosecute not saying its right but it is what it is

for instance if someone kills your dog you are only entitled to the money you paid to purchase the dog or what the dog is worth on the open market. no punitive damages are allowed

bad way to go

[whOaKemosabe]

thanks for sharing i really just ate a chicken sandwhich looking at them pics thanks..

[JockoHomo]

I have to say that if someone killed my dog I would not care about the replacement cost because I would have killed them and be sitting in jail.

[michael.kickass]

Makes me sick as well.

right or wrong in all states animals are considered property and in our legal system crimes involving your own property are difficult prosecute not saying its right but it is what it is

Another reason why the legal system sucks, it needs to change. We're talking about living beings, not things. There's a big difference and any legal system should take that into consideration.

[EddyTheDog]

I am not going to look - I hate shit like that...

On a side note - Are you OK up there Scott? - Things are looking a bit scary...

[MrBottomTooth]

They obviously had severe mental problems. Why didn't they just let the dogs outside to give them a fighting chance? They didn't even have sense enough to dispose of the bodies, not to mention the inches of dog shit and piss. Filthy sub-human scum. Need to go back to bathing with the dead bodies and feces in the Ganges.

[PornDiscounts-V]

Because we'd rather lock up a guy who is addicted to drugs than a guy who is psychotic.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

right or wrong in all states animals are considered property and in our legal system crimes involving your own property are difficult prosecute not saying its right but it is what it is

for instance if someone kills your dog you are only entitled to the money you paid to purchase the dog or what the dog is worth on the open market. no punitive damages are allowed

not in all countries

[Spunky]

Lot of fucked up people in this world

[Choopa_Pardo]

Horrible people. Terribly upsetting. I can't fathom how some people can allow innocent creatures to suffer like that.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

On a side note - Are you OK up there Scott? - Things are looking a bit scary...

Looks like the worst of it is over, for now.

I've been awake since 3am this morning. The guy that died in the lorry was only a few mins from where i live now. The road is still closed off. Nasty!

[Brent 3dSexCash]

Originally Posted by michael.kickass

Makes me sick as well.



Another reason why the legal system sucks, it needs to change. We're talking about living beings, not things. There's a big difference and any legal system should take that into consideration.

I dont disagree with you and any person that is cruel to animals should be severely punished. I just wonder how a law would work given how many different kinds of animals we have on this planet.

Humans seem to be drawn to animals that are aesthetically pleasing and remind them of their own qualities. For example, squirrels and rats are not all that different except that one is cute and furry. We recoil in horror at one (the rats) while we let the other one run rampant on our streets.

Maybe a strict law should just apply to pets whether the pet is a dog or a lizard. If you agree to have a pet, no matter what it is, there should be a hgher responsibility and kindness standard and thus harsher penalties if you abuse them.

I cant look at videos with abused animals; it is too upsetting.

[Brent 3dSexCash]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

right or wrong in all states animals are considered property and in our legal system crimes involving your own property are difficult prosecute not saying its right but it is what it is

for instance if someone kills your dog you are only entitled to the money you paid to purchase the dog or what the dog is worth on the open market. no punitive damages are allowed

I have often thought what I would do if a cop burst into my home and shot my dog. This happens more than you may think with cops being overly protective. For example, there are well documented cases and videos of dogs running up to the cop (on private property) with its tail wagging only to be shot down. The cop then says he felt threatened, and because legally the pet is seen more or less like your TV or your car, very little happens.

The rage I would feel when this happened would be like no other and I would have an extremely hard time controlling myself...

[mikesouth]

The problem comes when you start to confer "rights" to animals....for instance which animals have rights and what rights do they have...Im not saying that it is OK to be cruel to animals by any means...I hate that shit, but looking at it from a clearly legal standpoint it is a legal quagmire.

If you stop and think about it, it becomes very complex....for example I can legally kill a dog that i own so long as I dont do it in an "inhumane" method, but what if we said OK its never legal to kill a dog....what would happen with all the pound dogs? dogs with rabies? Ok now we say ok its legal to kill some dogs, some times....I assume yer starting to get the picture.

The simplest way is to legally treat animals as property, now for the sake of argument lets say the court decides OK animals ARENT property...so now i can lure your dog to my house with a nice juicy steak and keep him and I havent stolen your property....matter of fact i havent committed any crime, now what if it isnt a dog, what if its a chicken do I have the right to kill my chicken and eat it if it isnt my property? Do you?

All of these things have evolved over long periods of time in our legal system and generally i think it is the correct legal situation, animals should be considered property, so the question then becomes should I be afforded the right to sue for punitive damages if you steal my property or harm my property....OK does this also apply to my laptop? my porn collection?

i think now you are starting to get the picture

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I am not going to look - I hate shit like that...

On a side note - Are you OK up there Scott? - Things are looking a bit scary...

it does look a bit rough, those northerners might have to put a jumper on!

[CourtneyR]

I'ts honorably that they would let something like this happen. Why do people have to be so cruel if your not going to give them a chance at least surrender them to a shelter. Of course in the end they might still be put down, but they would have had a better chance.

[seeandsee]

There should be laws to protect animals from cruelty in every country.

[CourtneyR]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

There should be laws to protect animals from cruelty in every country.

agreed!!!!!

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN

Why do people have to be so cruel if your not going to give them a chance at least surrender them to a shelter. Of course in the end they might still be put down, but they would have had a better chance.

A shelter they have food and water, and yes if they do eventually get put to sleep, it is quick and pain free.

There simply isn't any excuse for letting any animal suffer. Especially like in the link above...

[CourtneyR]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

A shelter they have food and water, and yes if they do eventually get put to sleep, it is quick and pain free.

There simply isn't any excuse for letting any animal suffer. Especially like in the link above...

Exactly. No reason to let them die is pain. No living breathing animal deserves to be treated like that.

It blows my mind how discussing some people can be.

[candyflip]

at people who claim they'd kill a human being over an animal.

[Fetish Gimp]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

The problem comes when you start to confer "rights" to animals....for instance which animals have rights and what rights do they have...Im not saying that it is OK to be cruel to animals by any means...I hate that shit, but looking at it from a clearly legal standpoint it is a legal quagmire.

True.

People react emotionally because when an animal that is a pet such as a dog or cat gets maltreated, but when an animal rights organization does an expose on how chickens, pigs or cows are treated like shit in production lines then all of a sudden it's silence because fuck it I want my cheap burger and bacon NOW.

ps: I'm not a vegetarian or vegan

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by candyflip

at people who claim they'd kill a human being over an animal.

some animals are safe the others are just fucked open the death chambers

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by candyflip

at people who claim they'd kill a human being over an animal.

Why not ??

I'm sure many dog owners etc on here would take matters into their own hands if someone killed their pet...

[CourtneyR]

Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp

True.

People react emotionally because when an animal that is a pet such as a dog or cat gets maltreated, but when an animal rights organization does an expose on how chickens, pigs or cows are treated like shit in production lines then all of a sudden it's silence because fuck it I want my cheap burger and bacon NOW.

ps: I'm not a vegetarian or vegan

There really is no difference. I wouldn't eat my cat so I don't see why I should eat any other animal.

ps: I am veggie.

[BAKO]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

right or wrong in all states animals are considered property and in our legal system crimes involving your own property are difficult prosecute not saying its right but it is what it is

for instance if someone kills your dog you are only entitled to the money you paid to purchase the dog or what the dog is worth on the open market. no punitive damages are allowed

That sucks balls. But I'm sure karma comes around soon enough

[CourtneyR]

Originally Posted by BAKO

That sucks balls. But I'm sure karma comes around soon enough

It better. those are some discussing individuals. I'm sure they wouldn't be all to happy to be locked in a room to die.

[ajrocks]

The reason is our society puts no value in the lives of animals. Oh and a lot of people are just douche bags these days.

[Fetish Gimp]

Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN

There really is no difference. I wouldn't eat my cat so I don't see why I should eat any other animal.

ps: I am veggie.

I understand your viewpoint and respect it, but let me play Devil's advocate.

The position that all life is sacred and equal in value is noble, but impossible to live up to. You're vegetarian, so what about all the insects (grasshoppers, ants, etc) that are killed when wheat/corn is harvested?

Do their lives count less because they're insects?

And if so, then you'd have to agree that there are levels of importance using human life as the baseline, and considering insects less important is the same as considering traditional food source animals as less important, thus they end up on our dinner plates

[CourtneyR]

Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp

I understand your viewpoint and respect it, but let me play Devil's advocate.

The position that all life is sacred and equal in value is noble, but impossible to live up to. You're vegetarian, so what about all the insects (grasshoppers, ants, etc) that are killed when wheat/corn is harvested?

Do their lives count less because they're insects?

And if so, then you'd have to agree that there are levels of importance using human life as the baseline, and considering insects less important is the same as considering traditional food source animals as less important, thus they end up on our dinner plates

I understand your point.

I'm the kind of person that if a bug is in the house i wont kill it i scoop the little guy up and put it back outside.

Still not up to eating meat though

[2MuchMark]

People who are cruel to animals deserve twice as much jail time as those who are cruel to people.

[marlboroack]

There's always that online internet cult that will ruin these fuckers lives.
A good majority of them get fucked up in public over it.