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File Lockers are starting to pay by Bitcoin a paypal alternative
Well of course this was going to happen ....
Paypal is now well known for a sort of sanctimonious attitude towards sites that they feel will damage their ability to make money and now that cyberlockers are under fire from copyright conglomerates such as the RIAA, MPAA, and BRIEN. This comes during the long-burn of Megaupload by the U.S. government at the behest of these copyright cartels and now Paypal pulling out means that many of them will lose a primary source of funding and accessibility to the general public. According to TorrentFreak, Paypal has stopped working with cyberlockers such as MediaFire, Putlocker, DepositFiles, and many others citing concerns of piracy. Even the newest folk hero of cyberlockers, somewhat infamous Kim Dotcom, has come out asking the community on Twitter about better payment systems than PayPal and U.S. credit companies to upkeep this advancement of Internet innovation. As we all know, the MPAA and RIAA have gone to credit transaction companies and gotten them to withdraw their support from sites that may be capable of supporting piracy (which means any and every cyberlocker out there.) An obvious answer comes to mind from the growing population and functional use of a digital cryptocurrency we already know: Bitcoin. The e-currency is still in its rough-start stage when it comes to technology and much of that has been because it?s been treated as a fanatic commodity by a small but extremely loyal group who keep it afloat. It also fluctuates in value too often for most people to want to store their money with it; but we have seen it used effectively for an intermediate currency and a number of services do take bitcoins as compensation?such as Bitmit.net auctions and several VPN providers who also take the currency. Full story here http://siliconangle.com/blog/2012/07...coins-big-win/ Kim Dot Com's site Mega allready is offering Bitcoin Bitcoin has a major new online participant, but it may not help the experimental online currency's reputation as an economic medium for extra-legal activities. Kim Dotcom, founder of file-locker service Mega, recently announced plans to begin accepting Bitcoin?the world's most popular decentralized, alternative currency?as payment. It's a none-too-surprising move for an entrepreneur who has run afoul of U.S. law in recent years. http://www.dailydot.com/news/kim-dotcom-mega-bitcoins/ |
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U know what I really really hope that the Filelockers and Torrents do not use it like they seem to think will happen because it could have a pretty bad effect on Bitcoins. Yes it will certianly open up another market for Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies but could have a real bad down side too.
I allready know some torrents are using it Great saying things like this too "If Kim Dotcom uses his celebrity to bring attention to the use of Bitcoins for cyberlocker access, welding the two together will most likely bring both out with a much bigger market than before and make both of them much more resilient to economic siege by the copyright industry." |
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Dude skill road used it, a website designed for selling drugs, hiring hit man, and purchasing fire arms. Who fucking cares what bitcoin is used for, the more people using it the more valuable it is. Tye best thing to do for bitcoin would be to build payment system plugins for every major CMS project. Worspress , joomla, mybb, vbylletin, etc, etc. They already have a plugin for mybb and worspress which is good. |
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Wrong! It's already vulnerable to government intervention. Keep using something primarily for crimes and money laundering, and they make the case for having it banned even easier.
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It's very easy to accept and process bitcoin payments and for things such as adult paysites it's fantastic because it allows people who don't normally trust adult sites (cross selling, credit cards banged, statements showing weird charges, etc) to purchase memberships via Bitcoin which offers a somewhat anonymous way to pay! Just because filelockers, torrent sites, drug websites (Silk Road 2.0, Black Market Reloaded, etc) use Bitcoin for payments doesn't mean it's bad. |
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just wait until they make a payment option
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What I don't understand is:
Why are people more willing to spend money on those sites than on usual adult sites? Both provide more or less the same, downloading xxx videos for money. With the difference that they sell stolen stuff.
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I know legitimate websites also use bitcoin. That doesn't change anything. Bitcoin uses peer-to-peer technology to operate with no central authority or banks; managing transactions and the issuing of bitcoins is carried out collectively by the network. Bitcoin is open-source; its design is public, nobody owns or controls Bitcoin and everyone can take part. Through many of its unique properties, Bitcoin allows exciting uses that could not be covered by any previous payment system. The government has no say in bitcoin. They can seize the bitcoin domain however people will still have the client downloaded and can simply spread it through other means. Notice it says everyone can take part. That includes torrent services, vps providers, and file lockers. It's not a currency designed for adult paysites. If you want something for adult paysites go with sexcoin. |
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But, the last thing a bitcoin investor should want is this form of currency regulated as a way to stop criminal activity. Cutting off the money supply is currently the favorite tool of law enforcement.
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and yes, you have a valid point. it just a matter of time when kim starts pushing his coin on the the buyers..and many will follow , there will be more exchanges and monopoly too, its just like owning a private version of paypal. fucking awesome. i guess , at that time AK have to retire.
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= taxes they want money! Nothing else they don't care if the money is flowing!
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At some point people will need to enter the traditional financial system and it's at that point we can cut them off. Unless a company supporting piracy wants to be confined to bitcoin and bitcoin alone then we can still get them.
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My point is once it is commonly used by filelockers, torrents ect, you will see the big film and music companys doing thier utmost to destroy it, They seem to be winning with payment options like paypal, if they have leverage over a comapny like paypal you can bet your ass they will do everything in thier power to do the same with Bitcoins. It will also give the goverments a nice big fat opertunity to get cryptocurrenys off the web. |
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It would be almost impossible to trace his wallet because most people use more than one wallet You can use any number of wallet addresses, One for the business, one to transfer the coins to another one for selling ect |
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This guy is allready only accepting bitcoins, edit... he is also using paypal lol
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um you got the wrong end of the stick
I run a website which accepts bitcoins The bitcoins I recieve form the website i can go and sell on ebay using a totaly different bitcoin wallet address Infact I could make up 5 diff accounts on ebay and sell my bitcoins which i have earned from my website using different bitcoin addresses How are you gonna know ? I will still be making money from my website !! |
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It seems to me that bitcoins would have far less value if you weren't able to cash them for actual US dollars (or whatever currency any individual's country used). |
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I'm not a criminal, but as far as I know, most crimes and criminals use cash. That's not been banned.
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How about the uploaders and locker providers that will be using bitcoins.
But what I think you meant to say was: Quote:
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The height of stupidity is believing that an anonymous currency (which can never be allowed to exist on any real level) and one that is used to buy illegal drugs, guns, contract murders etc etc etc etc is somehow not going to get crushed for what should be the most obvious of reasons.
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At some point you're going to need to use regular financial systems to effect payments somewhere and it will be at that point we will get you. There are also many other ways to mitigate your activities, we can get your hosting killed and we can get your domain seized. You can also be investigated for tax evasion or money laundering if income is not declared. |
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Waaaaaaaay more content on filelockers, plus you get not only porn, but movies and so on.
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thats how bitcoins get a bad reputation.... fuck filelockers!
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"the community is very reminiscent of a cult. Some of them seem to be truly convinced that kimoto is none other than Kim Dotcom, founder of megaupload. Let?s make this clear, Kim Dotcom is NOT associated with megacoin. Megacoin supporters are manipulating people into thinking that he is, to inflate the value of the coin." Is funny enough that Kim DotCom was victim of pirates copying his stuff ![]()
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Yes, they'll ban what they can, even types of fiat cash.
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I actually thought megacoin was by Kim Dotcom. It's a serious scheme going on. Good thing I didn't invest in it. |
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I actually predicted this would happen way back when on the file locker thread, and was laughed at.
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1 bitcoin is worth 1 bitcoin when the means to transfer it into other currency goes away.
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Here is a thread I made months ago. My prediction is coming true.
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1108...bong+bitcoi n
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In such a system, the site owners and its uploaders sells BTC for cash, the cash then gets added to their bank account (since the site owner pay his taxes) using manual deposit of cash. If I was you, I would begin to think for a new strategy to fight piracy, because your current way of dealing with it won't work with BTC only sites. Good luck. |
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I personally believe that making a profit from piracy is bad and I think AK's work must be done to fight piracy. I just believe he will need to adjust his strategy to make it work with BTC only illegal sites.
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I think its even more of a game of wack a mole. As time goes on, there is less and less need to go to cash. You can just spend Bitcoins directly. If he thinks he's going to stop bitcoin being converted to any currency everywhere on earth, he has a screw loose.
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Unfortunately, you are totally right.
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you know, I really hate file lockers. but I really hate paypal and visa/mastercard telling me what I can do with my money more.
anything that tells them to Go fuck themselves makes me happy. so I say good. fuck those fucking monopolies.
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So you have the power to sieze domians and you can investigate peoples taxes ... How many domains have u had siezed so far and how many people have you investigated for tax evasion and money laundering ? I think you are talking out of your ass because you would have no legal right to investigate peoples taxes or have thier domains siezed lol. Unfortunatly the whole filelocker and torrent scene is evolving and yes it sucks to see filelockers and torrents using Bitcoin now but it was bound to happen in the end. |
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Is ShareCash doing the same ?
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love all this talk about regulation lol
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