Despite lobbyist claims, piracy not killing media industry, study shows

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Online piracy is not the scourge of the media industry, as proponents of a crackdown on copyright infringement claim, says a new study. Creative business is doing well, with those embracing the new realities of digital sharing even flourishing.

The study by the London School of Economics says that claims by industry lobbyists of damage from piracy are largely exaggerated. Meanwhile, policies aimed at curbing illegal file sharing that that the likes of the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) and the British Video Association are neither efficient nor help the entertainment industry to boost its bottom line.

The policy report suggests that attempts to stop digital sharing and close sites like The Pirate Bay are going against the natural development of creative communities and advise to review UK?s attitude to copyright.

"Neither the creative industry nor governments can put a stop to cultural change that is global and in many cases welcomed, including by other segments of industry," said LSE's Professor Robin Mansell, co-author of the report.

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[TheSquealer]

Claims of piracy and resulting damages are ALWAYS grossly overstated for effect.

I am much more moved by someone saying "we worked hard, we invested a lot of money into creating this product and we don't feel its right for others to steal it" than the usual BS of "we lost $x,xxx,xxx from people pirating Adobe Photoshop CS4". You can't attack thief's who feel entitled and just in stealing by pointing out monetary losses to people who rationalize theft by you being greedy to begin with. Thats such an absurd approach.

[lucas131]

time to make some study about schools of economics ... i dont know shit about it, but its the same

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Claims of piracy and resulting damages are ALWAYS grossly overstated for effect.

I am much more moved by someone saying "we worked hard, we invested a lot of money into creating this product and we don't feel its right for others to steal it" than the usual BS of "we lost $x,xxx,xxx from people pirating Adobe Photoshop CS4". You can't attack thief's who feel entitled and just in stealing by pointing out monetary losses to people who rationalize theft by you being greedy to begin with. Thats such an absurd approach.

I doubt Adobe lose money due to piracy. Kids getting Photoshop for free then learning it means it is worldwide the program for image work and then licenses are paid for once it comes to doing real work for a business later.

[AdultKing]

Rights holders have the sole right to determine who can access their content and on what terms.

If you acquire a copy of the content or product without paying for it then you are depriving the rights holder of income they should have earned.

It's no excuse that you can't afford it, or that the big companies make too much money, or that capitalism is bad.

[trevesty]

Reactionaries usually get left behind if they don't catch up to the rest of the world.

[Nurgle]

when you get charged $26 to see a movie here in Aus, u wonder why people download movies...... wow i wonder!

[Due]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Rights holders have the sole right to determine who can access their content and on what terms.

If you acquire a copy of the content or product without paying for it then you are depriving the rights holder of income they should have earned.

It's no excuse that you can't afford it, or that the big companies make too much money, or that capitalism is bad.

True but that's not what this article is about

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

I doubt Adobe lose money due to piracy. Kids getting Photoshop for free then learning it means it is worldwide the program for image work and then licenses are paid for once it comes to doing real work for a business later.

...that was... my point exactly...?

Adobe is one of those in the past that has made insane claims about losses that basically assumes that every install is 600.00 lost when its clearly not true. Not saying piracy is ok... just saying it doesn't help their case to talk about financial losses to a bunch of asshole kids trying to fight back against "the man" by stealing their software and insisting it should be free. In fact, its the exact wrong thing to say in my opinion.

[woj]

I wonder who would know better if piracy results in losses:
a. a professor who has nothing on the line and is just seeking 2 minutes of fame by creating a study on piracy
b. members of the industries that are effected by piracy

obviously "b" are just a bunch of dumbasses that never even considered to conduct their own study, and so opinion of "a" should be used to drive copyright policy/law/etc....

[johnnyloadproductions]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

I doubt Adobe lose money due to piracy. Kids getting Photoshop for free then learning it means it is worldwide the program for image work and then licenses are paid for once it comes to doing real work for a business later.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

...that was... my point exactly...?

Adobe is one of those in the past that has made insane claims about losses that basically assumes that every install is 600.00 lost when its clearly not true. Not saying piracy is ok... just saying it doesn't help their case to talk about financial losses to a bunch of asshole kids trying to fight back against "the man" by stealing their software and insisting it should be free. In fact, its the exact wrong thing to say in my opinion.

If they wanted people to learn it so liberally I'm sure they would go about it differently.
I know Iowa State University Engineering students get full access to all of Microsofts products (Visual Studios Ultimate, all the os versions, other developer tools) because they are being groomed by MS. Most students except, graphic design, do no get direct access to adobe's suite. All students can get access to adobe by simply walking into the graphic design building and logging into one of the macs, some of the library computers have them.

I talked to a kid that intern with adobe, he was in charge of optimization of their main pages for all their traffic. He told me they had meetings about how bad piracy was and methods to go about solving it.

Most people don't need PS, most never become graphic designer, MS Paint and a few other products are sufficient for ma and pa.

[MrDeiz]

piracy is as natural as digital content. those 2 can't be apart, just like society and crime, etc

[Kolargol]

Originally Posted by woj

I wonder who would know better if piracy results in losses:
a. a professor who has nothing on the line and is just seeking 2 minutes of fame by creating a study on piracy
b. members of the industries that are effected by piracy

obviously "b" are just a bunch of dumbasses that never even considered to conduct their own study, and so opinion of "a" should be used to drive copyright policy/law/etc....

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

If you acquire a copy of the content or product without paying for it then you are depriving the rights holder of income they should have earned.

No you're not. As *many* high courts have ruled.

If you REALLY think a 13 year old pirating CS6 is depriving Adobe of a sale, well, you're a big silly goose.

[javbucks]

The billion dollar ipod

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

No you're not. As *many* high courts have ruled.

If you REALLY think a 13 year old pirating CS6 is depriving Adobe of a sale, well, you're a big silly goose.

Quote and post links to the rulings that state that downloading and then using an unauthorised copy of Adobe Photoshop is not illegal.

The fact is that it is illegal. The person downloading then using Adobe Photoshop should have paid Adobe for a license to use it, they didn't, it's theft. If everyone did this then Adobe would have no income at all from the software.

Adobe did not release it as free software, they released it in order to receive income from each licensed user, the intent was not anything other than profit motivated.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Quote and post links to the rulings that state that downloading and then using an unauthorised copy of Adobe Photoshop is not illegal.

The fact is that it is illegal. The person downloading then using Adobe Photoshop should have paid Adobe for a license to use it, they didn't, it's theft. If everyone did this then Adobe would have no income at all from the software.

Adobe did not release it as free software, they released it in order to receive income from each licensed user, the intent was not anything other than profit motivated.

No one is saying its legal you fucking retarded, self righteous, self aggrandizing idiot.