can someone give me the low down on xbiz?

[bean-aid]

Why does their forum not promote business... rather highlight the losers in this industry?

Why do they also delete every post when they ban a user? Cant take the heat or what?

It's just weird...

[SwirlsGirl]

Originally Posted by beaner

Why does their forum not promote business... rather highlight the losers in this industry?

Why do they also delete every post when they ban a user? Cant take the heat or what?

It's just weird...

I wonder the same question?

years ago we used to frequent xbiz almost daily.

until oneday I saw an adult industry *best* award given by xbiz to a company in the adult industry.

I then looked that company up at exactly the same time the award was given and noticed that company had a fucking F- rating with the better business bureau.

We are not talking A,B,C,or D rating but an F which is flunk,fail,fraud,fubar

That was enough for me to end my daily travels to xbiz.

been a few years and do not miss that place at all.

[BAKO]

It's the adult industry lol

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by BAKO

It's the adult industry lol

Top 3 posters:

Barefootsies
Damian
12clicks

Those are top 3... regardless if someone is a fake, someone is without teeth or knowledge, and a card banger.

They are still top 3 on a board suppose to be full of professionals... pst. No thanks, jesus... and deleting posts entirely so a person doesn't even exist?? XBIZ guys... you a bunch of fakes yourself

[SwirlsGirl]

Originally Posted by beaner

Top 3 posters:

Barefootsies
Damian
12clicks

Those are top 3... regardless if someone is a fake, someone is without teeth or knowledge, and a card banger.

They are still top 3 on a board suppose to be full of professionals... pst. No thanks, jesus... and deleting posts entirely so a person doesn't even exist?? XBIZ guys... you a bunch of fakes yourself

[Luckeynatl]

All I know is I get a bunch of spam from them and ANYBODY can put a press release on there to make it look legit.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by Luckeynatl

All I know is I get a bunch of spam from them and ANYBODY can put a press release on there to make it look legit.

Yes... I do believe that is true.

Maybe some other xbiz warriors could clear this up?

I suppose the question is... does XBIZ harvest the largest losers in the world and ... if so... do they also delete information posted by much smarter people then themselves in an effort to cover up their forum?

[bean-aid]

Damian just said to me if I talk bad about him again he is going to fucking kill me!

[bean-aid]

I don't want any of that for sureszniss@

[bean-aid]

12clicks saying...

To blow off the universal belief in a higher power from civilizations with no contact with each other is the act of a shallow mind

[Manfap]

So dont go there, problem solved.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by beaner

Why does their forum not promote business... rather highlight the losers in this industry?

Why do they also delete every post when they ban a user? Cant take the heat or what?

It's just weird...

Yeah, weird. Imagine that. You get banned from a board for fucking it up with your drug/mental health rampages.

Then, you rejoin under a fake nick and do exactly the same thing.

And they delete your posts.

And you find this confusing why?

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by beaner

Damian just said to me if I talk bad about him again he is going to fucking kill me!

Brilliant. Been waiting for this.

Post proof or I'll get you banned from here too.

Tick tock tick tock.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Brilliant. Been waiting for this.

Post proof or I'll get you banned from here too.

Tick tock tick tock.

I'm sure you have been waiting for this. You are a secret weapon of the obvious

[DamianJ]

No proof? How unexpected.

Ticktockticktock.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

No proof? How unexpected.

Ticktockticktock.

Oh my... you are a fag.

And I have 100% proof of that...

[LeRoy]

Just log in to your fake nick and troll everyone ;)

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by beaner

Oh my... you are a fag.

And I have 100% proof of that...

Post it then, fatty.

But post the proof you have of me threatening you first. That's the one that will stop you getting banned. We both know you have no proof as it never happened, but heck, you could at least chop an ICQ conversation or something. Put some effort in. Be awful when you're banned from every forum.

And what's wrong with being gay anyway?

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

Just log in to your fake nick and troll everyone ;)

He's probably too hung over to remember the passwords, he was on it until about 7am his time this morning.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Post it then, fatty.

But post the proof you have of me threatening you first. That's the one that will stop you getting banned. We both know you have no proof as it never happened, but heck, you could at least chop an ICQ conversation or something. Put some effort in. Be awful when you're banned from every forum.

And what's wrong with being gay anyway?

Weird... who's fat? Last I looked in the mirror I was a dashing young lad with almost perfect teeth.

Honestly, nothing is wrong with being gay. Being Damian, well that is another story. Please find one mother fucker on this entire board who can say what in the fuck you actually do. Barefootsies does not count as he's full of shit as well. And we all know that.

You are a condescending prick, a little man with a big mouth and a small bank account.... with really bad teeth.

You go to shows to do what exactly?? Perform magic tricks? People you have met don't even know what the fuck you do except your in person personality does not match your board personas.

You are a fake... now go cry to the mods

[johnnyloadproductions]

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by beaner

long rant full of ad hominem attacks trying to distract attention away from the simple fact that you have no proof of me threatening you and have broken two if not three of the rules and are about to be banned

Don't let me *know* I am getting to you honey! It makes it so much more fun for me when I know you're getting annoyed.

Anyway, you won't be around here much longer, so make the most of it while you can.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Never really understood that as I clearly have at least three chins in that pic.

Could you explain the 'chinless' part?

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Don't let me *know* I am getting to you honey! It makes it so much more fun for me when I know you're getting annoyed.

Anyway, you won't be around here much longer, so make the most of it while you can.

I'm sure honey. Because you do have a lot of pull around here.

Reposted pic... just because

p.s. that is not a chin, it is called face fat from being... well, fat

[VikingMan]

the Better Business Bureau is a scam organization.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by beaner

Those are top 3... regardless if someone is a fake, someone is without teeth or knowledge, and a card banger.

Barefootsies is real, he just trolls his ass off on GFY as a release-valve. I assure you he makes money.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Barefootsies is real, he just trolls his ass off on GFY as a release-valve. I assure you he makes money.

It doesn't matter man... I'm not on a crusade to prove his net worth, or lack of. He can tickle Damian's feet and they both can go emailing together... while filing for bankruptcy on a home worth 90K.

I just find it insulting that a board would delete everything from a user like they don't exist.

It makes all the past threads skewed and inaccurate. Yes, I have had a problem with all three of the names in OP and am pissed that my comments got deleted.

Oh well...

[The Porn Nerd]

Time to get a life people.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Time to get a life people.

Indeed! Happy New Year!!

Getting ready for the big bash, you?

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by beaner

It doesn't matter man... I'm not on a crusade to prove his net worth

And I'm not on a crusade to defend him, just sayin' .. he finds joy in people falsely thinking he's a loser, and his board personality is nothing like his real one.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

And I'm not on a crusade to defend him, just sayin' .. he finds joy in people falsely thinking he's a loser, and his board personality is nothing like his real one.

I beg to differ... he is very, very touchy about certain things money wise... 2011, etc.

I know he pays his programmers...

I have to pick my words wisely because I was warned already. But he does not find joy when the stinger of truth sticks... just sayin'

Happy New Year and maybe a helicopter will be in your near future. It's going to be a new Year!

[Vendzilla]

12clicks and Barefootsies are both real. They both post here from time to time and I have met 12clicks.

Fake nicks would be kinda pointless on that forum.

[signupdamnit]

All I know about that place is that they don't seem to let people read without being registered. Meh. I need to spend more time working versus fucking around on boards anyway.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by beaner

I beg to differ... he is very, very touchy about certain things money wise... 2011, etc.

I know he pays his programmers...

To clarify, I've never done any work for him. And just so I'm sure I'm getting my point across: him being "upset" about things, etc, is all part of the act of trolling. It's very elaborate and planned, and people fall for it constantly. I am kind of in awe sometimes.

[2MuchMark]

I like XBiz and the controls they have on the forum. A good business thread went out of control thanks to some poser who hijacked it and the admins were quick to close the thread.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

All I know about that place is that they don't seem to let people read without being registered.

It is one step that helps ensure our audience is composed of actual adult industry professionals, rather than fake nicks...

There are other "industry" boards populated by teens and surfers, if a "BIZ" forum that requires free registration is too much work.

Personally, I value everyone's opinion on business matters, as diversity counts, but when folks that are only interested in trolling start to derail legitimate business threads, they shouldn't be surprised that they are no longer welcome in our community.

It all depends on the experience you seek: profitable discourse with adult professionals or communal bitching with broke losers.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by Stephen

It is one step that helps ensure our audience is composed of actual adult industry professionals, rather than fake nicks...

There are other "industry" boards populated by teens and surfers, if a "BIZ" forum that requires free registration is too much work.

Personally, I value everyone's opinion on business matters, as diversity counts, but when folks that are only interested in trolling start to derail legitimate business threads, they shouldn't be surprised that they are no longer welcome.

It all depends on the experience you seek: profitable discourse with adult professionals or communal bitching with broke losers.

So there you have it... why are the 3 clowns in OP still at xbiz? See... words are just that... words. When you dig deeper you realize those words apply to your forum as well.

Should I rehash statements of domination while in the midst of bankruptcy? And when I say bankruptcy... that is not like a thriving business bankruptcy... it is not even able to make enough to pay $600 for mortgage and then decide to declare bankruptcy, bankruptcy.
Should I rehash obnoxious statements, too many to list, from a foul mouth, bad tooth loser?
Should I rehash all the publicly documented threads, as well as news articles, on how banging cards is legit?

That is what i'm talking about... fake as losers. And they are xbiz's top posters so a big congrats!

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by beaner

Should I rehash statements of domination while in the midst of bankruptcy?

You should stop rehashing statements, period. You're no dummy and have a lot to offer, but this obsessive chasing of folks from board to board and getting involved in personal bullshit is a juvenile waste of time and does not reflect well on you.

I would much rather you have put that energy into developing your billing system and then bringing it to us for discussion and development ideas.

I know that some of the folks you are agitated with push your buttons, provoking you, and they are wrong for doing so, but all this "he said, she said" stuff is a waste, as is carrying on this campaign of personal attacks under multiple nicks.

I won't discuss this further as it's a waste of MY time and I'd rather be putting my energy into making money in 2014.

I wish you would too.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by Stephen

You should stop rehashing statements, period. You're no dummy and have a lot to offer, but this obsessive chasing of folks from board to board and getting involved in personal bullshit is a juvenile waste of time and does not reflect well on you.

I would much rather you have put that energy into developing your billing system and then bringing it to us for discussion and development ideas.

I know that some of the folks you are agitated with push your buttons, provoking you, and they are wrong for doing so, but this "he said, she said" stuff is a waste, as is carrying on this campaign of personal attacks under multiple nicks.

I won't discuss this further as it's a waste of MY time and I'd rather be putting my energy into making money in 2014.

I wish you would too.

And I respect what you just said. I would not have messaged you privately with my thoughts and results of billing if I thought it would fall on deaf ears and wasn't 100% legit.

I will end this now... but I hope you for 1 second can separate *Beaner* from what is being said. What I am talking about is poison on any board, and just so happens, that poison are xbiz's top posters. So blame it on me if you want...

When someone says something that others don't like does not mean I am obsessing, chasing, whatever. It means I am speaking my mind and what I have to say I believe deserves to be heard. No matter how many panties get bunched up.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by Stephen

It is one step that helps ensure our audience is composed of actual adult industry professionals, rather than fake nicks...

There are other "industry" boards populated by teens and surfers, if a "BIZ" forum that requires free registration is too much work.

Personally, I value everyone's opinion on business matters, as diversity counts, but when folks that are only interested in trolling start to derail legitimate business threads, they shouldn't be surprised that they are no longer welcome in our community.

It all depends on the experience you seek: profitable discourse with adult professionals or communal bitching with broke losers.

I don't know. The vibe I get from this just isn't very good. It's one thing to get rid of obvious trolls but it's another to shutout and insult people because they aren't bros or because they don't work for a bro. I look around and see what the "yes men" have done to this industry and I just shake my head. The way I see things I will take an honest struggling newcomer who is making $100 a month in the industry over some scumbag owner who cheats everyone and fucks over the industry any day. Calling the former "broke losers" I think is unbecoming of an organization such as XBIZ and kind of illustrates much of what is wrong with the industry.

But whatever man. Maybe I just misinterpret things. I agree that having to register isn't a big deal if it's just that. It's just sort of the vibe behind it. Anyway, Happy new year!

[robwod]

Originally Posted by **********

I like XBiz and the controls they have on the forum. A good business thread went out of control thanks to some poser who hijacked it and the admins were quick to close the thread.

Agreed. I like that the business threads there are focused on actual business.

Originally Posted by Stephen

It is one step that helps ensure our audience is composed of actual adult industry professionals, rather than fake nicks.

I find Xbiz a breath of fresh air in this respect. There's a distinct focus on interaction among those within the industry than is present on other boards. Xbiz has generated a good deal of business for us via "connections" and business interactions, without the clutter.

That said, there are still industry professionals who visit here, they are mostly just quiet these days I suspect. GFY serves an essential service though... it reveals people for their professionalism, or lack thereof, and thus helps determine if you''d ever want to do business with them, or the program they represent ;)

I can say without hesitation that the lack of professionalism shown by some reps on this board has made us avoid working with them. Similarly, I know some program managers who have rejected, or outright deleted, an affiliate's application based on the way they act on the board(s).

[robwod]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Calling the former "broke losers" I think is unbecoming of an organization such as XBIZ and kind of illustrates much of what is wrong with the industry.

Agreed 100%.

[SwirlsGirl]

no matter how you slice it there are lines being drawn in this industry.

There are a group of people hell bent on doing things the old way of screwing over others to make a buck in adult

There is a new group emerging that thinks the industry needs cleaning out from the shady parasites in the middle, the content thieves, the shady programmers,shady hosts, the shady traffic brokers,etc and not to mention the shady trolls.

It would appear that all the shady ass hats have no honor and hang together. be it shady hosting, shady billing, shady file sharing, shady trolling its all the same mindset behind it.

They seem to think it is ok to lie cheat and steal no matter who it harms so long as it pays one of their 3 fucking mortgages or gambling habbits

That shit is no longer sustainable because you drag the honest players into the mud with you with your got damn fraudulent cheating bull shit.

You know if you are dealing with a cheater or not because only a cheater will defend a cheater.

Then people like us who call the cheaters cheaters and chicken fuckers are called schizo and psycho by the fucking cheaters!

You cannot make this shit up!

We are attempting to hold ass hats accountable with our findings over the years and it is not easy trying to keep them honest when you have dishonest lying hypocritical scamming trolls registered every where making a mockery of sincere efforts to do square adult biz.

calling a spade a spade is not being juvenile or insulting especially when these trolls are paid to go around slinging mud and making a mockery of people trying to do square fucking business and not further fuck the industry!

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Calling the former "broke losers" I think is unbecoming of an organization such as XBIZ and kind of illustrates much of what is wrong with the industry.

I agree and apologize for that. It is an unfair characterization and I regret posting that.

I get off my meds sometimes, too

[Persius BoyToy]

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

no matter how you slice it there are lines being drawn in this industry.

There are a group of people hell bent on doing things the old way of screwing over others to make a buck in adult

There is a new group emerging that thinks the industry needs cleaning out from the shady parasites in the middle, the content thieves, the shady programmers,shady hosts, the shady traffic brokers,etc and not to mention the shady trolls.

It would appear that all the shady ass hats have no honor and hang together. be it shady hosting, shady billing, shady file sharing, shady trolling its all the same mindset behind it.

They seem to think it is ok to lie cheat and steal no matter who it harms so long as it pays one of their 3 fucking mortgages or gambling habbits

That shit is no longer sustainable because you drag the honest players into the mud with you with your got damn fraudulent cheating bull shit.

You know if you are dealing with a cheater or not because only a cheater will defend a cheater.

Then people like us who call the cheaters cheaters and chicken fuckers are called schizo and psycho by the fucking cheaters!

You cannot make this shit up!

We are attempting to hold ass hats accountable with our findings over the years and it is not easy trying to keep them honest when you have dishonest lying hypocritical scamming trolls registered every where making a mockery of sincere efforts to do square adult biz.

calling a spade a spade is not being juvenile or insulting especially when these trolls are paid to go around slinging mud and making a mockery of people trying to do square fucking business and not further fuck the industry!

Which side are you on? With all negative, vile comments you make I'm guessing the ones trying to tear it down?

[johnnyloadproductions]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

I am kind of in awe sometimes.

Eric doesn't care for him... Threads Beaner started on here would normally get him banned had it been anyone else.

In awe because he pisses people of to the point where he gets more than his fair share of death threats?

I noticed I got under BF's skin when I posted in regards to Beaner "who else is going to undermine queen toots?"

That got him to check my profile for info for the first time.

Carry on toots

[BAKO]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Time to get a life people.

U should shut the fuck up.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Threads Beaner started on here would normally get him banned had it been anyone else.

ticktockticktock

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by robwod

I find Xbiz a breath of fresh air in this respect. There's a distinct focus on interaction among those within the industry than is present on other boards. Xbiz has generated a good deal of business for us via "connections" and business interactions, without the clutter.

That said, there are still industry professionals who visit here, they are mostly just quiet these days I suspect. GFY serves an essential service though... it reveals people for their professionalism, or lack thereof, and thus helps determine if you''d ever want to do business with them, or the program they represent ;)

I can say without hesitation that the lack of professionalism shown by some reps on this board has made us avoid working with them. Similarly, I know some program managers who have rejected, or outright deleted, an affiliate's application based on the way they act on the board(s).

agree with all of that.

i can take an insult. i can ignore trolls. but it does get tiring when threads are full of language that wouldn't be tolerated in any corporate office (much less a boardroom). and that's the problem with gfy. i don't go to gfy daily. i visit maybe once a week to scan for business-related threads. i do go to xbiz daily and participate because the majority of members (90%+) are people in the biz that are actually working and making money.

a lot of what beaner/judo said is absolutely true. if you are unliked at xbiz, you will be bounced. but look at the behavior that leads to it? beaner, you had a total meltdown that was the end result of weeks of back and forth arguing with the 3 guys you mentioned. the 4 of you slung personal and slanderous insults at each other day after day, in multiple threads, often just repeating the same bs over and over.

what was the point of it? you don't like each other. so what? i don't like a lot of people. am i going to waste hours and days of my time arguing with them? hell no. i have a grand in billable time to get through every day.

all this fighting and back and forth bs is just not worth it. as robwod said, the only thing the fighting achieved is making you guys (all 4) look bad and lose current and future business. what is more important than that? why be online at all if you aren't making money? if i didn't need to hustle every day i'd shut my Internet off and sit on my porch watching the bamboo grow all day..

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[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

ticktockticktock

Happy New Year Ugly !

To everyone else... rock on in 2014!!