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Old 01-30-2014, 02:33 PM   #1
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Goddamit Michelle Bachman is one dizzy fucking bimbo.



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He has rewritten the Constitution for himself as a part of his effort to fundamentally transform the United States of America,”
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...on-100586.html

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"He may think he's king, he may declare he's a king, but that's not what he is under the constitution,"
http://www.nationaljournal.com/state...peech-20140128

She may have never uttered the N word but her undying hatred for him just screams "I'm another ignorant racist" to me.
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At a certain point of time it's no longer about politics, it's just pure entertainment.
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At a certain point of time it's no longer about politics, it's just pure entertainment.
She has always been nothing but comedic entertainment.
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Wow... she never shuts up. I can't understand why her husband hasn't shot himself by now.
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Wow... she never shuts up. I can't understand why her husband hasn't shot himself by now.
Her hubby is Michelle's biggest fan...





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She's not stupid. She knows exactly what she's doing.

So "dizzy"? Nah, more like she's just another amoral shill spewing what her donors tell her to say.
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Look at the "tolerant" crowd spewing hate and beating each other off.


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Who was that aimed at?..
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Who was that aimed at?..
The usual suspects, not you Eddy.


edit: You are the last person I would want to offend, seriously.


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The usual suspects, not you Eddy.
lol, that's OK then - I had a little wave of paranoia creep in...
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lol, that's OK then - I had a little wave of paranoia creep in...
There are condescending, aloof, assholes here that preach tolerance and respect for others ONLY if it follows their own agenda. In fact they are the most hateful, intolerant, bigots posting here.


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There are condescending, aloof, assholes here that preach tolerance and respect for others ONLY if it follows their own agenda. In fact they are the most hateful, intolerant, bigots posting here.


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Looks like you scared them off.. All I hear now are the crickets..
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Look at the "tolerant" crowd spewing hate and beating each other off.


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One of the definitions of Intolerant is Illiberal (not liberal).

Conservatives regularly accuse Liberals of being "intolerant" or even "opposed to free speech" when liberals take conservatives to task for promoting intolerant views such as racial or religious hatred, or homophobia.

The reason that conservatives do this is to try and protect what they perceive as their own rights to engage in racial and religious bigotry and demagoguery.



Doublespeak has become an instrument of mass distraction (practically developed to an art form by the folks at Fox News), so that now if you speak out against racism, some try to spin it as if the anti-racist is the racist one.



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...'demagoguery'...
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So you don't have to waste 30 seconds of your life...
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Bla, bla, bla … create a long thread, spew my intolerant condescending shit, post stupid photos, bla, bla, bla …




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Bla, bla, bla ? create a long thread, spew my intolerant condescending shit, post stupid photos, bla, bla, bla ?




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http://www.nationaljournal.com/state...peech-20140128

She may have never uttered the N word but her undying hatred for him just screams "I'm another ignorant racist" to me.
Wtf does race have to do with it?

Obama's administration has been totally trashing the constitution and he is constantly bypassing congress with executive orders just like Bush did...

People on this forum probably had a problem with Bush doing it, but now that their "team" is in power they look the other way and attack anyone who points it out... such a sad cycle...
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Wtf does race have to do with it?

Obama's administration has been totally trashing the constitution and he is constantly bypassing congress with executive orders just like Bush did...

People on this forum probably had a problem with Bush doing it, but now that their "team" is in power they look the other way and attack anyone who points it out... such a sad cycle...
Politics 101...
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Wtf does race have to do with it?

Obama's administration has been totally trashing the constitution and he is constantly bypassing congress with executive orders just like Bush did...

People on this forum probably had a problem with Bush doing it, but now that their "team" is in power they look the other way and attack anyone who points it out... such a sad cycle...
For the record Obama has used less executive orders than either Bill Clinton or George Bush or Regan. He is roughly tied with Bush Sr. Please don't repete Fox News Facts as if they are actual fact...

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President Total Orders Order Number Range
George Washington 8 unnumbered
John Adams 1 unnumbered
Thomas Jefferson 4 unnumbered
James Madison 1 unnumbered
James Monroe 1 unnumbered
John Quincy Adams 3 unnumbered
Andrew Jackson 12 unnumbered
Martin van Buren 10 unnumbered
William Henry Harrison 0 unnumbered
John Tyler 17 unnumbered
James K. Polk 18 unnumbered
Zachary Taylor 5 unnumbered
Millard Fillmore 12 unnumbered
Franklin Pierce 35 unnumbered
James Buchanan 16 unnumbered
Abraham Lincoln 48 unnumbered
Andrew Johnson 79 unnumbered
Ulysses S. Grant 217 unnumbered
Rutherford B. Hayes 92 unnumbered
James Garfield 6 unnumbered
Chester Arthur 96 unnumbered
Grover Cleveland - I 113 unnumbered
Benjamin Harrison 143 unnumbered
Grover Cleveland - II 140 unnumbered
William McKinley 185 unnumbered
Theodore Roosevelt 1,081
William Howard Taft 724
Woodrow Wilson 1,803
Warren G. Harding 522
Calvin Coolidge 1,203
Herbert Hoover 968 5075 - 6070
Franklin D. Roosevelt 3,522 6071 - 9537
Harry S. Truman 907 9538 - 10431
Dwight D. Eisenhower 484 10432 - 10913
John F. Kennedy 214 10914 - 11127
Lyndon B. Johnson 325 11128 - 11451
Richard Nixon 346 11452 - 11797
Gerald R. Ford 169 11798 - 11966
Jimmy Carter 320 11967 - 12286
Ronald Reagan 381 12287 - 12667
George Bush 166 12668 - 12833
William J. Clinton 364 12834 - 13197
George W. Bush 291 13198 - 13488
Barack Obama 168 13489 - 13656...
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Obama's administration has been totally trashing the constitution and he is constantly bypassing congress with executive orders just like Bush did...

People on this forum probably had a problem with Bush doing it, but now that their "team" is in power they look the other way and attack anyone who points it out... such a sad cycle...


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So much for Obama being a "dictator" who rules by Executive Order.

I have to admit that accusation was also made against George W. Bush, who is basically tied with Obama. So similar accusations against Dubya were also probably bullshit as well.
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President Bush II had a friendly Congress during most of his presidency so he did not need to resort to EO's that much. He also made extensive use of "signing statements" to just ignore parts he didn't like of bills.


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I am still a student of American politics - I assume Executive Orders are the President saying 'up yours, I am doing it anyway'?..

I think the Queen here has that power in theory, but wouldn't dare...
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I am still a student of American politics - I assume Executive Orders are the President saying 'up yours, I am doing it anyway'?..

I think the Queen here has that power in theory, but wouldn't dare...
It's something the president can use to set policy while avoiding public debate and opposition. What's important isn't the amount issued but what they were issued for.
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It's something the president can use to set policy while avoiding public debate and opposition. What's important isn't the amount issued but what they were issued for.
OK - There is a big difference between 'moving sheep across county lines' and going to war with (insert country here)...
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It's something the president can use to set policy while avoiding public debate and opposition. What's important isn't the amount issued but what they were issued for.
Kinda like when George Bush used an executive order to start the war in Afghan...

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Pursuant to the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 112 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (26 U.S.C. 112), I designate, for purposes of that section, Afghanistan, including the airspace above, as an area in which Armed Forces of the United States are and have been engaged in combat.

For purposes of this order, I designate September 19, 2001, as the date of the commencement of combatant activities in such zone.

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Kinda like when George Bush used an executive order to start the war in Afghan...
That's a good thing right?
I mean Obama said this is where the war should have been, and not Iraq.. Right?
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That's a good thing right?
I mean Obama said this is where the war should have been, and not Iraq.. Right?
What does Obama have to do with Bush starting a war with a executive order? The looney Tea Party is running around acting as if Obama is abusing executive orders calling him a dictator, king or what ever else they can mis-spell on a sign. So I just ask what the nay sayers think about Bush starting a war using one..
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I am still a student of American politics - I assume Executive Orders are the President saying 'up yours, I am doing it anyway'?..

I think the Queen here has that power in theory, but wouldn't dare...
A good explanation of Executive Orders (and remember, Executive Orders can be undone by a future President):

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In the aftermath of President Barack Obama's State of the Union address, there is a lot of confusion about the phrase ?executive actions.? The president has an assortment of different tools, and it is important to distinguish among them.

?Executive orders,? issued by the president personally, often involve large-scale, government-wide matters, and contain his own orders to the officials who work for him. For example, an executive order might require executive agencies to reassess and streamline existing regulations, to promote diversity in the federal workforce, or to improve customer service.

Executive orders are nothing new. In his first five years, Obama issued 167 executive orders -- a lower rate than George W. Bush (291 over eight years), Bill Clinton (364 over eight years), George H.W. Bush (166 over four years), Ronald Reagan (381 over eight years), or for that matter Dwight Eisenhower (486 over eight years).

?Presidential memoranda,? also issued by the president personally, often involve more technical matters and might be issued to one or few members of the executive branch. For example, a presidential memorandum might direct the Environmental Protection Agency to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from power plants, or might direct agencies to modernize the nation's electric transmission grid by improving the process for siting, permitting and reviewing transmission lines The line between executive orders and presidential memoranda is not always crisp and clear, but the former tend to involve more significant matters.

In the general category of ?executive action,? much of the most important work comes from ?regulations,? which typically have the force of law, and which may well bind the private sector (or, for that matter, state and local governments). Regulations are issued by agencies, not by the president personally, but they reflect his commitments and priorities.

For example, the Obama administration has issued a series of regulations increasing the fuel economy of motor vehicles. The regulations were issued by the Department of Transportation and the Environmental Protection Agency, not by the president himself.

As of today, 112 regulatory actions are under review at the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, and summaries are publicly available. Eighteen of the pending rules come from the Department of Health and Human Services; 16 from the Department of Transportation; nine come from the Department of Energy; five come from the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

Many of them would have a significant impact. For example, a rule from the Department of Health and Human Services would eliminate or reduce regulatory requirements that appear to impose unnecessary burdens on hospitals, doctors and nurses. A rule from the Food and Drug Administration would improve the current nutrition facts label. The Department of Energy is considering rules that would increase the energy efficiency of battery chargers, automatic commercial icemakers and commercial refrigeration equipment. The track record of energy efficiency rules has been extremely good, producing benefits (including consumer savings) well in excess of costs.

Before they are finalized, significant regulations are subject to careful scrutiny within the executive branch, and also to a process of public comment. They must also comport with the law. For this reason, it is misleading -- a kind of rhetorical trick -- to suggest that they are ?bypassing Congress.? On the contrary, Congress has previously authorized them through legislation. Most of them are not subject to serious legal challenge.

Agencies also have the authority to issue general policy statements, or interpretive rules, that do not have the force of law but can have real effects, economic or otherwise. For example, an agency can issue a policy statement clarifying that it will not undertake enforcement action in certain domains. Or it can interpret a law, or a regulation, in a way that expands or contracts the reach of minimum wage and maximum hour requirements. Here as well, there are legal restrictions in what the executive branch can do, but significant steps are possible.

The important point is that the phrase ?executive actions? includes an assortment of different tools. Both Republican and Democratic presidents have legitimately invoked all of them, especially when legislative paths are blocked.




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What does Obama have to do with Bush starting a war with a executive order? The looney Tea Party is running around acting as if Obama is abusing executive orders calling him a dictator, king or what ever else they can mis-spell on a sign. So I just ask what the nay sayers think about Bush starting a war using one..
You are correct in what you are saying, but your Example of Bush using one, FAILED. as, Obama would of also. (So Obama says)
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Wtf does race have to do with it?

Obama's administration has been totally trashing the constitution and he is constantly bypassing congress with executive orders just like Bush did...

People on this forum probably had a problem with Bush doing it, but now that their "team" is in power they look the other way and attack anyone who points it out... such a sad cycle...
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That's her husband?

I don't meant offend anyone, but he sure does look gay to me.
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That's her husband?

I don't meant offend anyone, but he sure does look gay to me.


If Marcus Bachmann is gay, then he must be filled with self-loathing:









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You are correct in what you are saying, but your Example of Bush using one, FAILED. as, Obama would of also. (So Obama says)
Obama hasn't started a war using a executive order, but George Bush did. So why are you bitching about Obama and not Bush? Why because you are a biased hater, that's why..
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The stats on Obama using very few executive orders are 100% correct.

I think what the debate over his use of executive order is WHAT he is using them for.

For instance on the Health Care law.
We have been told that it is the "Law Of The Land" and to stop resisting it by the supporters of it for the last 4 years.

But then...the Pres. just changes it at will whenever he pleases. Huh? That is unconstitutional. You can't just do that (even if what you are doing might be a "good" thing)

And the Presidential appointees he made by using the "Senate is not in session" clause when they WERE in session so that he could avoid the gridlock of the Senate approving his choices.
That is unconstitutional as well.

Don't get me wrong. I think the whole procedure of the Senate approving the Pres. cabinet is bullshit. Pres. Obama won the election fair & square and should be able to appoint his own cabinet.

Yeah, I understand the need for Senate confirmation of a Supreme Court nominee...but NOT the team that the Pres. is assembling for the Executive Branch.

Of course expecting Congress to give up that power to harass the opposing parties President in any given administration is never gonna happen.

So the President has to play by the rules.

As for those stats...Executive Order is used for a lot of things.

But Pres. Obama has used it for some very important, controversial, and DEADLY things (like military force in Libya for instance).
Pres. Bush had the Congress and Senate both approve use of military force in Afghanistan and Iraq. Yes, all your Democrat heroes voted FOR it.

Nobody voted for what we did in Libya.
That's the kind of thing that the President is not supposed to be doing.

And now that it's become crystal clear that Pres. Obama can not work with Republicans at all...and a portion of the Democrats are running away from his unpopularity as they face elections...he needs to be reigned in by the Supreme Court since he is threatening in his speeches to be a "king" by bypassing the legislative branch of our Republic.

And yes...Michele Bachman is crazy as fuck. So is Palin (just wanted to throw that in lol)

Any person who runs around screaming about superstitious fairytales (and in Palin's case actually pretending to speak in tongues in church) is a fucking moron in my opinion.

And in Bachman's case...she has an obviously gay husband (nothing wrong with being gay) who has such self loathing that they make all their money with their "Curing Gay" brainwashing business.

Disgusting. And bizarre that people have voted her in to a position of power. It's kinda scary to think that there are lots of people who take her seriously.
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