I want to start a cam site

[nexcom28]

Well, sort of.

I have a great idea for a cam site, it's pretty different from all the rest. I don't know any models or have any traffic.

I think it could be big.

Any ideas how I can get my idea off the ground?

... with little money.

[xpimp]

with little money...hmmm....make a wl label first and do what you can to become somehow big with it and, after years of consistent sales with a good database of paying clients, throw your idea on that domain - it might catch

[icamz]

there are tons of scripts like camscripts.com/ you can use. But the traffic is the hard part. Cause if you don't have the traffic the models will leave, if you don't have the models the customers will leave. Very hard without tons of $$$

[j3rkules]

Originally Posted by icamz

there are tons of scripts like camscripts.com/ you can use. But the traffic is the hard part. Cause if you don't have the traffic the models will leave, if you don't have the models the customers will leave. Very hard without tons of $$$

[aviatorz]

I would start a whitelabel cam site first. I think streamate offers the best one from what I've come across. Get some traffic to that by linking directly to individual category pages on there on whatever sites you run. See what converts best. Use the mad monies you'll be making from that to buy tokens on myfreecams to make girls shove their panties in their mouths. Wait what were we trying to do again?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by nexcom28

Well, sort of.

I have a great idea for a cam site, it's pretty different from all the rest. I don't know any models or have any traffic.

I think it could be big.

Any ideas how I can get my idea off the ground?

... with little money.

You would need to have one or the other, but preferably both, to make money.

If you have traffic, you can direct that traffic to any number of sites that pay you a commission on those sales. Or if you have models, you can sell their time to any number of cam sites as well. But if you have neither, you're in a tough spot.

What you may want to do is start gathering resources. Look around for cam models that will perform based on your concept. Try advertising for models at places like http://www.sexyjobs.com or http://www.fetlife.com. At the same time, look around for ways to promote your site at places like http://www.ero-advertising.com, http://www.juicyads.com, http://www.adxpansion.com, etc. If you can't make or design your site yourself, consider http://www.zuzanadesigns.com. And if you need a platform to power it all, give us a read at http://www.2Much.net.

Good luck!

[bluebook18]

Originally Posted by icamz

there are tons of scripts like camscripts.com/ you can use. But the traffic is the hard part. Cause if you don't have the traffic the models will leave, if you don't have the models the customers will leave. Very hard without tons of $$$

+1

[Roald]

Mail me your idea and let's make it happen. When good we share any income from it. We have models and technology.

Will sign NDA if needed.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by FriXion

Have you considered teledildonics so the models can actually have sex remotely?

Where does one buy hardware like that? Any hook ups?

[nexcom28]

Originally Posted by Roald

Mail me your idea and let's make it happen. When good we share any income from it. We have models and technology.

Will sign NDA if needed.

Nice offer. Thanks.

[x-rate]

Originally Posted by Roald

Where does one buy hardware like that? Any hook ups?

2005 article:
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[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by nexcom28

I have a great idea for a cam site, it's pretty different from all the rest.

Within few days after any site with such idea is out, all other sites will implement it, including those cam sites with sales $50-$100M a year.

[whitet]

Originally Posted by nexcom28

Well, sort of.

I have a great idea for a cam site, it's pretty different from all the rest. I don't know any models or have any traffic.

I think it could be big.

Any ideas how I can get my idea off the ground?

... with little money.

never is just about the idea but about the execution.
if the idea is good, it can help.

I have good relations with webcam studios in EU and a small technical team.
are you technical?
send me a PM

[babymaker]

Anyone know of a good simple cam chatroom like smotri etc, something for surfers, not models. I want to add it to my 10+yo sex chat site see if that helps me take #1 spot in google.

[CamsMaster]

webcam API will solve models, but you will still need the traffic.

[Vendzilla]

I have a great idea to start a cam site , but it will cost about $250k.
I even have the two domains I need to make it happen.

Working on getting investors..........

[TheSquealer]

If you can't generate 20-30 sales a day as a cam affiliate... why do you think you can just start a cam site?

[nexcom28]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

If you can't generate 20-30 sales a day as a cam affiliate... why do you think you can just start a cam site?

What does making sales as an affiliate have to do with anything?

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by nexcom28

What does making sales as an affiliate have to do with anything?

I look forward to paying for your welfare and/or stay in prison.
Thanks for the laughs.

[Dmitry]

Let me know if someone looking for a programming team experienced in webcam site development

[nexcom28]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I look forward to paying for your welfare and/or stay in prison.
Thanks for the laughs.

Still don't understand.

[iSpyCams]

I did it but I dont think my situation is something that can be duplicated as there are a lot of happy coincidences.

1) I bought a "used" cam script for $125 from a broke webmaster who thought he was going to open a cam site and get rich. He paid $3,000 for the license and transfered it to me for $125 (developers agreed to the transfer, and just happened to determine that the first minor mod was going to cost me $3000 so I guess they came out OK.)

2) I had a solid traffic source but we were butthurt about some asshole programs not wanting to pay us and were looking to track down some international scammers who owed us bigtime.

3) In my search I came across someone else who was owed by the same people but for cam studio, not traffic.

So my traffic, his studio, my used script plus a little design work, a couple merchant accounts and 2 years later everything is running great.

It's not a huge site, its so small I am not even comfortable disclosing the url, if it was any smaller it wouldnt exist at all but it pays my bills and my partner's bills and we are not in debt to anyone so I am happy but the point is there is a ton of work between "I think I want to run a cam site" and that first trip to the bank.

Also, that's where the real work starts. I easily spend 12 hours a day analyzing stats and buried in paperwork. I am learning to offload, automate and delegate some of the more repetetive stuff as I move along, but its never going to be as hassle free as say for example a white label.

[xNetworx]

"I want to start a cam site" - I've heard this at least 50 times in the past years

[Pronstar]

That and "I want to start a tube site. Where do I start"

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by Dmitry

Let me know if someone looking for a programming team experienced in webcam site development

softservice made few sites for friends it's good guy

[DBS.US]

Originally Posted by nexcom28

What does making sales as an affiliate have to do with anything?

It all about being able to make sales

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by CamBoss

"I want to start a cam site" - I've heard this at least 50 times in the past years

We hear 50 times also people unhappy with the top 5 cam sites monopoly for (alleged) shaving or other issues, so it is fair someone tries to start new cam sites.

The reason 49 out of 50 new cam sites we hear about, does not happen at all or fail within the year, it is these guys think they launch with $10k, while a new cam site launch requires $500k min, $1 million better (the consensus reached in previous well attended threads), to launch and stabilise - I mean something like chaturbate or bongacams. Smaller cam sites collapse, you can't keep up a small cam site really, whoever managed cam sites of various sizes knows this, theres a minimum critical mass.

The typical error it is to focus on the site code and idea. Except the write the code (the cheapest part!), there's the advertising part (do not rely on affiliates really at launch... they join after a year or 2 you exist really). Also, paying a fixed bonus fee to models (at site loss) so they keep online in new unknown empty cam site for the months needed, see other threads just this week:

"i am looking for 100 web cam models."
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1133249

"Media Traffic Buying (please recommend)"
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1133309

Perhaps there should be a sub-forum "people wanting to start cam sites" with a FAQ.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

We hear 50 times also people unhappy with the top 5 cam sites monopoly for (alleged) shaving or other issues, so it is fair someone tries to start new cam sites.

The reason 49 out of 50 new cam sites we hear about, does not happen at all or fail within the year, it is these guys think they launch with $10k, while a new cam site launch requires $500k min, $1 million better (the consensus reached in previous well attended threads), to launch and stabilise - I mean something like chaturbate or bongacams. Smaller cam sites collapse, you can't keep up a small cam site really, whoever managed cam sites of various sizes knows this, theres a minimum critical mass.

The typical error it is to focus on the site code and idea. Except the write the code (the cheapest part!), there's the advertising part (do not rely on affiliates really at launch... they join after a year or 2 you exist really). Also, paying a fixed bonus fee to models (at site loss) so they keep online in new unknown empty cam site for the months needed, see other threads just this week:

"i am looking for 100 web cam models."
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1133249

"Media Traffic Buying (please recommend)"
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1133309

Perhaps there should be a sub-forum "people wanting to start cam sites" with a FAQ.

It can definitely be done and I see the proof every day in the form of direct deposits from my merchant accounts - but the questions being asked by the people who come here asking about it make it clear to me that it's not going to work for them.

It's like someone saying: "Well waiting tables is too hard for me and I can't figure it out so I am going to open a restaurant instead." They can't grasp how any of the individual components work but still think they can put it all together, with the help of forum replies.

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[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by nexcom28

Still don't understand.

If you don't know how to actually generate sales in a business where conversions are notoriously difficult - then you have zero chance of success. Not to mention the fact that you know nothing about it and all the challenges you will face, particularly with processing and fraud management.

[CaptainHowdy]

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[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

It's not a huge site, its so small I am not even comfortable disclosing the url

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

It can definitely be done and I see the proof every day in the form of direct deposits from my merchant accounts

What's wrong in give the url of your cam site, I wonder.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

What's wrong in give the url of your cam site, I wonder.

Nothing wrong with it but nothing to be gained either. A lot of assholes on here like to fuck with people for no reason and tey might as well fuck with somebody else. I am not looking for affiliates at the moment so why expose myself to competitors?

If I have something to offer I will offer it and if you have something I need I'll hit you up.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Nothing wrong with it but nothing to be gained either. A lot of assholes on here like to fuck with people for no reason and tey might as well fuck with somebody else. I am not looking for affiliates at the moment so why expose myself to competitors?

It is true people in GFY can be unfriendly, in fact one does not post on "go fuck yourself" board hoping to get compliments. I hardly got one in thousands of posts. I been mostly silent from 2003 to 2010 and enjoyed safety from trolling. But then I became brave by posting more, with one of my cam sites in the signature (I even asked opinions - one told I should go fry burgers at McDonalds, then what?). As a result in fact I got funny and unfunny hate replies, especially by "Venusblogger" (and his next fake-nicks) and the such.

However, I also got a fair number of business deals from GFY, not just affiliates, so it was worth the trolling side effects. Especially, I got a lots of pay users signups from GFY threads, did you know that most of pageviews are from surfers?

About affiliates, even if nearly no one regular posters signed-up, there's lots of those who never post (or not even have an account), but reads time to time, or simply finds the gfy threads searching for keywords such as "chaturbate alternative", "myfreecams affiliate", "livejasmin sucks" etc., they read the thread, find my cam affiliate from signature, and signup. Some of these affilates worth hundreds or thousands of mine signups, so this is well worth Venusblogger trolling.

On a side note, most of those trolls been banned; and now are there with fake nicks and keeping lower profile not to be identified and banned again. This is even less funny.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

It is true people in GFY can be unfriendly, in fact one does not post on "go fuck yourself" board hoping to get compliments. I hardly got one in thousands of posts. I been mostly silent from 2003 to 2010 and enjoyed safety from trolling. But then I became brave by posting more, with one of my cam sites in the signature (I even asked opinions - one told I should go fry burgers at McDonalds, then what?). As a result in fact I got funny and unfunny hate replies, especially by "Venusblogger" (and his next fake-nicks) and the such.

However, I also got a fair number of business deals from GFY, not just affiliates, so it was worth the trolling side effects. Especially, I got a lots of pay users signups from GFY threads, did you know that most of pageviews are from surfers?

About affiliates, even if nearly no one regular posters signed-up, there's lots of those who never post (or not even have an account), but reads time to time, or simply finds the gfy threads searching for keywords such as "chaturbate alternative", "myfreecams affiliate", "livejasmin sucks" etc., they read the thread, find my cam affiliate from signature, and signup. Some of these affilates worth hundreds or thousands of mine signups, so this is well worth Venusblogger trolling.

On a side note, most of those trolls been banned; and now are there with fake nicks and keeping lower profile not to be identified and banned again. This is even less funny.

Right now my cam site is undergoing a design overhaul, mobile streaming is being implemented and some unique features are being implemented and tested. This is not a good time to go public with it for me, as even valid opinions will likely be based on obsolete design and functionality.

The affiliates I have are all bringing their own promo tools and working around some huge issues we have like rev-share not working properly and other things that just wouldn't be acceptable for a public affiliate program. All of this is in progress, has been for a long time and will likely continue to be for awhile, since we bootstrapped the project with almost no cash and are using the income that comes in slowly to improve step by step.

It's not that hard to find out what sites I run and I am willing to discuss it privately, I just don't need to put it in my sig just yet.

[AdultB2B]

Whether you use a white label or a script, you still need traffic. At least with the white label you will have models. So that's the best place to start.

Feel free to hit me up through one of our sites. I'd love to brainstorm with you on your idea. I'd have no problem signing an NDA.