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Old 02-28-2014, 01:14 PM   #1
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Fact: Russia is facist state, Putin is close to repeat Hitler's fame

I'm Ukrainian and i see the situation from inside
The whole Russia's state is built on propaganda. They are using provocations and brutal force to solve issues in country and abroad.
If World War III is going to start, Putin will be the reason of it
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Bullshit, Putin just protect Russian interest.
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Bullshit, Putin just protect Russian interest.
i think only Putin is a liar, you make all the ruskies to be liars as well
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Opinion.


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You've confused fact with opinion.
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As a Russian I never liked Putin, but comparing him to Hitler and calling my country a fascist state...

P.S. I believe the OP is deadly drunk and tomorrow he won't recall what this thread is about.
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Why is it always when someone is on the opposing side they are run by the next hitler, a fascist and going to start world war 3?

If lawyers went to court with arguments like that they would never win a case.
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Why is it always when someone is on the opposing side they are run by the next hitler
Hint: Godwin's law
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Why is it always when someone is on the opposing side they are run by the next hitler, a fascist and going to start world war 3?

If lawyers went to court with arguments like that they would never win a case.
in case u missed - Russia tries to invade Ukraine (Crimean peninsula) the same way it invaded Abkhazia (part of Georgia) a few years ago, the same way Hitler invaded Poland before WWII.
I have been in Russia - it's 100% dictatorship with no real law, nor elections.

you'll read it in the news soon
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in case u missed - Russia tries to invade Ukraine (Crimean peninsula) the same way it invaded Abkhazia (part of Georgia) a few years ago, the same way Hitler invaded Poland before WWII.
I have been in Russia - it's 100% dictatorship with no real law, nor elections.

you'll read it in the news soon
Is russia moving all the jews into the ghettos? lining them up for work camps and slave labour? I'll admit i'm not familiar with the situation but I haven't heard anything like that so far.
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Putin only cares about russian Black Sea naval base in Sevastopol. He don't give shit about cheap ukrainians.

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in case u missed - Russia tries to invade Ukraine (Crimean peninsula) the same way it invaded Abkhazia (part of Georgia) a few years ago, the same way Hitler invaded Poland before WWII.
I have been in Russia - it's 100% dictatorship with no real law, nor elections.

you'll read it in the news soon
You're wrong. Saakashvili attacked first and the russians responded a few hours later.

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Someone please correct me if I am wrong... But I thought I read this morning that the Russian president said "We need to protect Russian citizens living in Ukraine". Then Russian forces took control of two airports and some government buildings....

Isn't this exactly what Hitler said before invading Poland? "We need to protect German citizens living in Poland".
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Russia lies and uses propaganda
American politicians are loving peace and tell only truth
the same as Zionists

That's why Snowden are in the Russia, because he is liar

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Why is it always when someone is on the opposing side they are run by the next hitler, a fascist and going to start world war 3?
Someone please correct me if I am wrong... But I thought I read this morning that the Russian president said "We need to protect Russian citizens living in Ukraine". Then Russian forces took control of two airports and some government buildings....

Isn't this exactly what Hitler said before invading Poland? "We need to protect German citizens living in Poland".
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Someone please correct me if I am wrong... But I thought I read this morning that the Russian president said "We need to protect Russian citizens living in Ukraine". Then Russian forces took control of two airports and some government buildings....

Isn't this exactly what Hitler said before invading Poland? "We need to protect German citizens living in Poland".
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Russia lies and uses propaganda
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the same as Zionists

That's why Snowden are in the Russia, because he is liar
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in East Ukraine 60% are Russians
and East Ukraine was given by Chruszczow for free

so don't compare Poland with Poles in big majority

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I think it's standard operating procedure for most national land grabs or at least influence grabs - "We need to protect such such people", often communities who are ethnically and culturally related to your own. And Hitler had that perfected to a T - it's got nothing to do with the Holocaust - in the late 1930s he was all about expanding under the auspices of bringing ethnic Germans back into the fold. Czech, Poland, Austria, etc. And it totally worked.

So I don't think Godwin's Law applies here, in the 20th century Hitler was the one most known for this strategy - no sensationalism needed.

Georgia *may* have shot first in that war, but I don't believe for a second Russia wasn't doing everything they could to destabilize and encourage a pro-Russian separatist movement in Abkhazia and Ossetia. Which Georgia fell for hook line and sinker.

I have a feeling Ukraine is in for a mess, we'll see how it goes though.
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I think it's standard operating procedure for most national land grabs or at least influence grabs - "We need to protect such such people", often communities who are ethnically and culturally related to your own. And Hitler had that perfected to a T - it's got nothing to do with the Holocaust - in the late 1930s he was all about expanding under the auspices of bringing ethnic Germans back into the fold. Czech, Poland, Austria, etc. And it totally worked.

So I don't think Godwin's Law applies here, in the 20th century Hitler was the one most known for this strategy - no sensationalism needed.

Georgia *may* have shot first in that war, but I don't believe for a second Russia wasn't doing everything they could to destabilize and encourage a pro-Russian separatist movement in Abkhazia and Ossetia. Which Georgia fell for hook line and sinker.

I have a feeling Ukraine is in for a mess, we'll see how it goes though.
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And Hitler had that perfected to a T - it's got nothing to do with the Holocaust - in the late 1930s he was all about expanding under the auspices of bringing ethnic Germans back into the fold. Czech, Poland, Austria, etc. And it totally worked.
I should revise that. "It worked" in Czech (Sudentenland) and Austria, when they rolled into Poland the Allies declared war which Hitler did not actually expect. He had no real interest in war with the British and in any event wanted to build up a few more years (I think 1943 was the plan?) before the big fight.

That's why shit like this Ukraine deal is so dangerous - you have no idea when events will outstrip the various leaders' plans and snowball with a life of their own.
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Someone please correct me if I am wrong... But I thought I read this morning that the Russian president said "We need to protect Russian citizens living in Ukraine". Then Russian forces took control of two airports and some government buildings....

Isn't this exactly what Hitler said before invading Poland? "We need to protect German citizens living in Poland".
LOL - It took me a minute to work out what was going on - The first time I have seen a post quoted BEFORE it was posted...

Anyway, not sure you can compare Putin to Hitler - That's pushing it a bit - However, I am sure he is planning to 'save' the Russian citizens in Crimea - He is passing a law so he can make as many of them Russian's as he can as quickly as possible.....
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Worry not, People of Ukraine.

I'm sure President Obama will soon Draw A Line which if (when) crossed he will then send a strongly worded email to Putin.

That'll show him

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armed protestors taking over government buildings = democracy
russians in Crimea = new hitler

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MrDeiz - fucking nazie and racist. i will sent to fbi all contacts all peoples, who speak with him.
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MrDeiz, welcome to Sevastopol, фашик ебаный. я тебя встречу.
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MrDeiz, welcome to Sevastopol, фашик ебаный. я тебя встречу.
well, at least i can fight police in my own country once they cross a line
and you can do nothing, police is a king in your fucking country. they can do whatever they want with u

and yeah, i'd like to meet with you. ruskie keyboard warrior is so fucking hilarious
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Let's get to brass tacks, which country has the better vodka?
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That really could start a war...
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well, at least i can fight police in my own country once they cross a line
and you can do nothing, police is a king in your fucking country. They can do whatever they want with u

and yeah, i'd like to meet with you. Ruskie keyboard warrior is so fucking hilarious

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Russia lies and uses propaganda
American politicians are loving peace and tell only truth
the same as Zionists

That's why Snowden are in the Russia, because he is liar
The US lies as well, this isn't a US vs Russia egofest.. Russia has invaded another country's sovergin space with out a due course. This makes it an illegal invasion and as a member of the UN an illegal action.
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Where and when?
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Georgia *may* have shot first in that war, but I don't believe for a second Russia wasn't doing everything they could to destabilize and encourage a pro-Russian separatist movement in Abkhazia and Ossetia. Which Georgia fell for hook line and sinker.

I have a feeling Ukraine is in for a mess, we'll see how it goes though.
ok, so what about the pipeline that was trying to be run through Georgia?

so while you say Georgia 'may have shot first', that's our satellite 'shooting first' in an effort to 'fix it's border issues' with breakaway provinces demonstrating its democratic right, in order to build the pipeline that benefits us.

however, i think we're still for freedom and democracy

am i missing a memo? or is it all about free-oil now?
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The US lies as well, this isn't a US vs Russia egofest.. Russia has invaded another country's sovergin space with out a due course. This makes it an illegal invasion and as a member of the UN an illegal action.
blabla.... Crimea is mostly Russian....ukraine gov is not 100 % legal...

remember USA ambassador giving sweets to protesters in Kiev (as big propaganda that image is, is it true too... kind of nice symbol actually) ? Is it behaviour of person with good manners ? :-P do Russians support some political party in Mexico,country - close neighbour to US ? yet, imagine - not so close naighbour like culturally and ethnically Ukraine is close to Russia...and Russia to Ukraine

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do Russians support some political party in Mexico,country - close neighbour to US ?
Well, there is Cuba...
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Well, there is Cuba...
and there is Taiwan near China too... and Guantanamo too

and Cuba ? was ?
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and there is Taiwan near China too... and Guantanamo too

and Cuba ? was ?
Just was replying to your quote: "remember USA ambassador giving sweets to protesters in Kiev (as big propaganda that image is, is it true too... kind of nice symbol actually) ? Is it behaviour of person with good manners ? :-P do Russians support some political party in Mexico,country - close neighbour to US ?"

Russia did much more than give out sweets in Cuba. I recall a near nuclear war over the subject actually.

But I'm not interested in this superpower vs superpower crap - I was highly against the US going into Iraq, interfering in Syria, Libya, etc, or Vietnam for that matter, and I'm highly against Russia doing so here. You're just trying to bring up the USA vs Russia thing because you know the developing bullshit is wrong, but you've got some nationalist agenda so have gotta deflect...
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You're just trying to bring up the USA vs Russia thing because you know the developing bullshit is wrong, but you've got some nationalist agenda so have gotta deflect...
no man, i am far from national agenda...i'm just sick of media propaganda in my country blaming today's Russia for whole worlds evil....
I'm really far from being nationalist...i just wish that ppl wouldn have more common sense...

on the other hand, if you know that cuban conflict history that well....i'm pretty sure that you didnt forgot also about rockets in Turkey, that were also "much more than sweets" :-)

what else ? I also do laugh, when Putin, ex KGB smart guy talking about freedom, blaming US and hosting Mr.Snowden as "advocate of that young brave man"...like Putin would care aboout freedom of others, good-hearted ex KGB espion haha....I also dont laugh when I see GreenPeace activists jailed, NGOs surrveiled etc. etc. in Russia...
So I'm neither AntiAmerican or AntiRussian or other shit...just guy with common sense :P

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LOL. Saakashvili on CNN now as 'an expert' on Ukraine. Do not wonder why americans are spoiled.

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Old 02-28-2014, 05:23 PM   #44
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LOL. Saakashvili on CNN now as 'an expert' on Ukraine.
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no man, i am far from national agenda...i'm just sick of media propaganda in my country blaming today's Russia for whole worlds evil....
I'm really far from being nationalist...i just wish that ppl wouldn have more common sense...

on the other hand, if you know that cuban conflict history that well....i'm pretty sure that you didnt forgot also about rockets in Turkey, that were also "much more than sweets" :-)

what else ? I also do laugh, when Putin, ex KGB smart guy talking about freedom, blaming US and hosting Mr.Snowden as "advocate of that young brave man"...like Putin would care aboout freedom of others, good-hearted ex KGB espion haha....I also dont laugh when I see GreenPeace activists jailed, NGOs surrveiled etc. etc. in Russia...
So I'm neither AntiAmerican or AntiRussian or other shit...just guy with common sense :P
a lot don't know about the missiles in turkey
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no man, i am far from national agenda...i'm just sick of media propaganda in my country blaming today's Russia for whole worlds evil....
I'm really far from being nationalist...i just wish that ppl wouldn have more common sense...

on the other hand, if you know that cuban conflict history that well....i'm pretty sure that you didnt forgot also about rockets in Turkey, that were also "much more than sweets" :-)
Sure, the US wasn't blameless in Cuba during the Crisis and definitely not after. To say nothing of Central America. Eventually we go in circles talking about this tho, all I'm saying is it's bad for big countries to impose their will on small countries and hopefully Russia doesn't go any further.
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