Nickatilynx

yeah all 11 or 12 of them like was explained ahahahaha

seriously????? You really are the Moron. Anyone that actually can send proper joins to a program knows that.

You fucking morons are suicidal. Thanks to this thread, another program has gone private. LOL You fucking moronic cunts are committing ritual suicide!!!!

Get it? You minnows are out!!! LOL

faketaxi is great converting content and everyone with half a brain knows that.

Whales KNOW he did not shave.

Whales KNOW its now a private program.

RUC only wants whales now. The minnows whine too much when they lose 39 cents through a processing glitch.You do know that you guys are actually a joke don't you?

So busy lobbing stones from your double wides as the players in their Bentley's , Porsche's and ferarris go by. LOL

Hobbyiests? Get a real job. Your time in adult is up.

You must be "this big" to ride.

ahahahahahahahaha

u guys make me laugh.

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lucas131

so because i wanted to know why my stats are fucked up, and i did test, and i have found that something is not working as it have to, i am whining here? you sire is also a bit out of reality dont you? maybe better if you go fish with your friend robert and leave other hard working guys trying their best

Magnetron

Was it a quality site? Did you run 10x the traffic through it? Was the additional traffic of the same quality?

Brokered traffic doesn't come close to quality and if the site is poorly designed, these are factors that don't bode well in the results.

iSpyCams

So, TL;DR:

Shaving is fine, Affiliates are not worth the money they earn, Dropping the ball is on sales tracking is a normal way of doing business, Whistle blowing gets you banned, If you are not a whale then you don't matter.

It's heartwarming to see the outpouring of support for cheaters and their apologists.

You fuckers think you are special and ballers cause you can put up some shitty content and add a biller or two to it, guess what, you're not. It doesn't take much talent or even cash to put together a paysite and 100% revshare is better than anything you can offer.

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Nickatilynx

no...you made several threads about it instead of talking via email.

Like a pro would do. Half this thread is "why did you run to the board straight away like alittle bitch instead of behaving correctly. If u had, when he saw the error you found he may have credited you more than you will ever earn a month as a courtesy.

But no...being a troll is more rewarding to you, like it is other hobbyiests LOL

RUC explained what happened.

RUC then posted stats and averaged them over a period to show worse way an affiliate through the processing glitch would have lost approximately fuck and all. LOL

And what have you achieved?

You have cost him fuck all.

But you have now closed another program and made it private only.

You, you twat is what is killing the affiliate model.

No one can be assed with whiney little shits with 3 joins a month.

ahahahahahahahah you fucking self destructive morons...

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The Porn Nerd

This is for all Program Owners and Whale Affiliates with this attitude:

"It's only 0.00003% of sales so who the fuck cares? Fuck off I'm rich and I only play with rich BROS."

It doesn't matter if it's ONE SALE A YEAR. It doesn't matter if an affiliate sends 1k hits or 100k hits. This is about ATTITUDE and PROFESSIONALISM and how a Program runs their business.

Not giving a fuck because an affiliate isn't a 'whale' makes the Program look like cunts and BROS.

Perhaps, in the end, RUC and any other Program with this attitude will be just fine doing business with the BRO club circle jerk. But in the end this Industry will collapse upon itself and not even the BROS will be able to support each other. Many other industries have tried this approach - big whales only, fuck the little guys - and those industries have suffered, withered and died. Short-term greed and a "We're too big to play with you" attitude has been the demise of many egotistical, delusional fucks.

Treat people - affiliates are PEOPLE let's remember - with respect and be professional, even in the face of frustration and exasperation, and THEN you can be taken seriously as a business person. until then, all this BROspeak just proves to me that there is now a real divide between 'mega-players' and the rest of us. The irony here is that sooner or later even the BROS will be hurting and looking for affiliates one day. Everything is cyclical.

I just hope affiliates remember who treated them with respect and who treated them like fools when that day comes.

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dantheman

I just finished the thread, not much to say since I don't have a dog(or traffic)in the fight.

But I do want to say hey to Nick, oldjeff and 12clicks, just good to see some folks around that I have talk to or interacted with from days gone bye.

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Jel

'a'? 'it'? yes they were, yes they got more quality SE traffic - not all kephrases are buying keyphrases though, even when the words 'free' 'torrent' etc are nowhere to be seen.

If you are #1 for 'keyphrase 1' you aren't going to grow your traffic for that keyphrase (as an example). You then go and get #1 for 'keyphrase 2' and 'keyphrase 3'. Your traffic just more than doubled, quality SE traffic, but hmm, your sales didn't more than double, in fact they only jumped by an extra 50 - 60%. Rinse/repeat x 10.

Or would that mean there was a shave? Hobbyists, man..

Nickatilynx

Shaving involves cheating.

Any moron can see not only was it not RUC's intention to cheat, it would make absolutely no sense to!!!

No fucking programs shaves anymore, they want to keep their affiliates.

It was a processing glitch.

RUC has shown that the result of this processing glitch would have cost his affiliates approximately fuck all. LOL

This is a non event thread...

A non event thread that has caused the program owner to close it to the public.

Jesus you guys are dumb...

I bet there is a few other program owners now considering closing their programs to the public.

And this is why the affiliate model is dying...LOL!!!

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Ruseful

Another post that you are insinuating shaving or fraud on my part, classy.

In response to your recent accusations:

We run a more complicated system than a basic NATS install. But keep grabbing at straws Lucas131, as you are now making yourself look foolish.

We use what's called an strack. The join page does a detection of a cookie to see if the incoming link is from the CCBill affiliate program or the NATS program. A type in gets a default NATS link for a type in, if it's an affiliate link the affiliate is credited.

There is nothing "hard coded".

Just to clarify a little more, each site in NATS has a "default join code". It also has a default FHG code that we put in all galleries so if you go to a gallery you'd see that as well and probably bitch to GFY. However, NATS over rides that with any incoming affiliate code. If it didn't, no affiliates would be getting any credit, ever. Obviously that's not the case. We use what NATS refers to as an s-track.

This default system also takes over if any CCBill links come in as improperly formatted because NATS takes over by default. That means one could use a bad ccbill link and they would end up on Vendo because they'd be in NATS.

If you click on a good ccbill link, you will go to the CCBill cascade. It is impossible to get to Vendo from the CCBill cascade. However, if you truncate the link or do something to screw it up, you will default to NATS which will use Vendo.

Clear?

lucas131

yes this is clear already, and i am happy for the help and informations i got in this thread btw, again, what happenned around 5th?

Nickatilynx

Hi mate , long time. Glad to see you about

LOL..800ish posts here...I got dragged into a piss because of the idiocy of it LOL

"RUC- Sorry processing glitch..average traffic lost to my 12 affiliates was a total of maybe $3...so sorry I cheated you all for $3"

And now..minnows can not send traffic to RUC LOL

the irony...another program closes , through whingers.

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lucas131

btw, i have clicked the right ccbill link, it is counting hits, just not sales, because sales have been handled by other processor. the link was going first to vendo, then tried few days again and it was ccbill, then few days again it was epoch ... still the same link ... so, not sure what happenned, but link was still the same, just your processors have been jumping

12clicks

please, you jumped up nobody.........There are a million good ways to handle this besides seeing a problem and screaming SHAVE. Now I understand that you programs at the very bottom will use threads like this to suck up to the affiliate trash that start these threads but at the end of the day, calling your betters "BROS" simply makes you part of the rabble. When the rabble turns on you, you will have already lost the intelligent allies that might have pointed out where the rabble is wrong about you long ago with your childish antics in THIS thread.
But what do I know? I've lost more money to bad processors than you'll ever earn if you hang on here until you die.

dehash

Another dumb moron.

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mopek1

An example of the snobbishness he is talking about.

Nickatilynx

Amen

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mopek1

So are you to be fair.

signupdamnit

Thanks for the latest test on kink.com, Lucas. Like I said it's just the same people for the most part giving you shit. They do it in almost every topic like this one.

Agreed. For many years Kink/cybernet/kinkydollars was my number one sponsor. It started falling apart around 2010 or 2011. There is an interview with the owner where he admits revenue declined for the first time in 2011. Personally I think it was because they took the tube strategy *their stuff was all over the tubes) and also they got hit by the same shit the rest of us got hit with.

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lucas131

are you also part of his pimpin projects like this one

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1101504

?

Nickatilynx

Fuck off, Twat.

Your betters are talking.

I was making millions before you knew of the web and will be after you have finally realised your job at target is a better life choice.

How's that for snobbishness , Mopek?

Its not snobbishness.

Its the difference in attitude between veteran professionals and 2 join a month beer money hobbyists.

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The Porn Nerd

Thanks for proving my point. I am NOT "sucking up" to affiliates. I treat EVERY affiliate with the same level of respect. I don't go "Get away from me kid ya bother me" if I see they only send a join a year.

But basically you are saying I should choose to side with people who treat other people as inferior instead of treating everyone with respect? Yeah no thanks.

PS: If you have made millions in Adult then why do "my betters" act so defensive, snobbish, like superior cunts and, well, overcompensating children? You would think a successful person would have a sunnier attitude than many of the 'successful' people in this thread. Huh.

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Ruseful

Nice pitch to pick up all the smaller affiliates when the industry comes crashing down "again".

Believe it or not, the industry is evolving again, tubes are positioning (bracing) themselves, major companies are manoeuvring into positions. The Bro's you speak of, its those bro's in the bro's club that are working together, along with the whales, on platforms you could only dream of, and platforms that are owned and operated BY THE INDUSTRY, not an individual. I can only assume that you do not want to be part of such a platform and stick with the small affiliates. Its fine, I didn't have you down for an invite anyway ;)

iSpyCams

Affiliates who get shaved or "become victims of processing glitches" are NOT the ones who need to watch their attitudes or be mindful of procedure. They are not the ones who fucked up.

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Ruseful

We switched to vendo for a 2-3 day period and then switched back. Then when we switched again, after this date, thats when you found the CCBill issue, of which we thanked you.

Nickatilynx

Oh you will....... ;)

once you really get the affiliate business.

You do know whales that can send you 100 joins in 12 hours read these threads? Prolly thought , nice sites. Good hardworking guy and a tryer.

That's what I thought of you as a lurker.

Now...well..I hope you one day become a grizzled old vet

and lucas..kiss my ass ;)

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Ruseful

yes, because we have been testing billers. Vendo primary, then Epoch primary then Vendo Primary

12clicks

is that how it looks from the bottom?
No son, I'm simply playing with the irrelevant while I wait for a con call. Perhaps you should attend a show and see how much smiling your betters actually do.
extrapolating how we treat industry trash to how we live our lives would be inaccurate.

but enjoy your hunt for noobs. someone should want them.

Nickatilynx

people should bookmark this post....

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lucas131

it will be funny to see 12clicks and other bros starting their business few years ago two weeks and back to mc donalds ...

12clicks

sorry chump, thats simply not the case.
when industry trash tries to combine shaving with glitches, the industry trash identifies themselves as people to not do business with.
If a program loses trash, it doesn't matter, if the trash lose the programs, its a problem for them.


but you keep thinking you've got it right.

12clicks

dear bottom runger, almost ALL of my contemporaries washed out of this business. trust me, child, I'm still on top for a reason and it ain't because I got here early.

Magnetron

Sure, in a scenario as rigid as this .... where you don't have traffic coming in from multiple sources - SE#1, SE#2, SE#3, toplists, hardlink swaps, trades, forums, pinboards and other SN sites like FB, Twitter, Pinterest, etc.

Man..

lucas131

what you do i dont call business, so not sure what you are talking about

looky_lou

Bravo! Some of those Bros are really showing their true colors in this thread.

Why should the Bros be concerned with programs going "private" and closing to the public? Small affiliates are not needed anyway and generally just a pain in the ass, right?

It was just a small error that only effected a few affiliates for a few days, right? But what if it was not caught and left that way for the next year? That might buy a nice round of drinks for the Bros at a show.

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12clicks

dear fool. This is one of the only businesses you can directly communicate with people who have succeeded in your business. Most of us started at the very bottom of this biz and rose to the top.
Instead of trying to pick our brains, you spend your day calling us thieves.
its why you'll never be anything more than the bottom.
wasted opportunity.

signupdamnit

As someone said check the terms of the program to be sure there aren't thresholds but generally probably revshare is the easiest one to test and less likely to get the sponsor claiming you committed "fraud" against them or that the sale never showed up because their automated anti-fraud system flagged it as "fraud" (this is a favorite tactic and claim of sponsors who get caught). I would probably do the revshare signup, load up some tokens or $20 on the account and then give it 24-48 hours to see if you have credit by then.

Btw I'm in the US so if you have a tricky sponsor you think might be looking for your test signups feel free to PM me a revshare (has to be revshare so they can't call it fraud) link to use and I'll try to signup and send you a screenshot or video of me doing it along with the date or something so we can see if they credit you. As long as it's under $40 I'm not even worried about getting a refund or anything. It's the least I can do to help the effort.

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12clicks

I figured that long ago.

lucas131

and you call business, trying to sell non unique content on sites like from 2005, and trying to bill members with xsales? there is enough complaints on the internet, do you know about them?

and so ... so, it is really not business, and if yes, it is scammy business

lucas131

thank you for the help, will keep you in my contact book

looky_lou

I am also willing to run some tests in exchange for doing some tests for me. I am also in the US. Just let me know.

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That contact and 4 bucks will get you a coffee at Starbucks, meanwhile the people you have alienated in this thread could have gotten you a new Bentley.

The BRO(ke) club for the big win of staying in the kiddie pool

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12clicks

Any program doing the millions of joins I have done has complaints. Again, internet trash trying to prove a point that is totally irrelevant to people actually doing business.

very important to trolls, however.

lucas131

PR_Glen

If someone did a test join with their own card and didn't report it after their test was completed how is that not fraud? Please explain.

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lucas131

you mean your bros who are you doing this shady business with do not complains? yeah, that is trange right? you do shitty business in my eyes, thats all, bro howgh

OldJeff

Started mine 2 years ago, was an employee for a long time, so far have doubled my income each year being in business, will be doubling it again this year (if not a larger increase)

The reason people have lasted in this business is they do not blame (pick your industry destroying flavor of the week) is they tend to their own business while simultaneously not giving a shit what other people are doing.

Everything I have ever seen posted as the end of the industry I have treated as a different way to profit.

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lucas131

and how it is fraud? if i want to buy a site and use my ref link? same as anyone else, my friend can be sitting here near me and if he buy it, then its different? explain please ... really want to know your point ...

The Porn Nerd

You see THIS is the problem right here. Why is it an 'either/or' situation? Why can't a Program or business work with BOTH "the Whales" and the smaller affiliates? My point is that whether an affiliate is a 'Whale' or a small-time affiliate HOW YOU TREAT THEM AND COMMUNICATE WITH THEM SHOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME.

Internally, in-house, say whatever you want about this aff or that aff. But when it comes to PUBLIC COMMUNICATION your attitude and comments should be respectful to EVERYONE. Giving this 'Fuck you you ain't worth shit to me anyway' attitude is the problem.

And don't assume I don't want to be a part of something new that would help my business. You know my sites and my content and you KNOW how well they do. So of course I would want to be a part of whatever new thing is coming. However, this does NOT mean that I would suddenly stop working with my smaller affiliates and treat them like they no longer matter.



As you and I discussed before there are many ways to work and there are many differant kinds of affiliates. Some affiliates use blackhat methods, some are small time, some are big. So it all depends on what kind of business you want to run, that's all. Plus, I don't have a problem with ANY company doing what it must do to stay in business. What I have a problem with is this attitude from RUC (and others) that borders on the meglomaniacal. LOL I mean, do 'small-time' affiliates (or 'minnows' as you call them, which is a great word for them) bring this level of consternation to program owners? Seems like a lot of bashing going on here towards people trying to run their business the best way they can. It's uncalled for.


I have new affiliates (noobs as you call them) plus I have the same exact affiliates that RUC and others have (whales). You do not know me or my business obviously. And we have never met at any of the shows I DO attend so perhaps this is why you think I'm some loser. LOL Perhaps you will be in Mallorca in May so we can meet then, or Amsterdam or Prague in the Fall....

Regardless, your comments and RUC's (and others) are the real problem here. Whether affiliates are worth the trouble or not does NOT give a Program the right to bash honest people for questioning some confusing data. I mean let's be decent people here and try and treat EVERYONE with a basic level of respect. Otherwise you (and others) just come across like cunts. And I'm sure, in 'real life', you and JT and Nick etc are NOT cunts. So if you think this approach is doing anything but hurting your reputation, image and standing you are wrong. it is NOT helping any of you long-term.

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OldJeff

You just seriously asked this question ???

You are actually dumber than I thought, which is really fucking hard to do, I had you pegged at slightly smarter than a potato

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