Does Mainstream make better erotic movies?

[Cherry7]

Than porn....

[PR_Glen]

seduction is so underrated. A lot of porn skips that part all together these days or considers 2 minutes of a girl moving in slow motion to some music at the start of the scene is all there is to it. Seduction is pretty much the base of our whole industry. We started off with provocative text links, the perfect image that lures the surfer in to clicking the banner and the payoff when they finally reach the tour/join page. If you ever have issues with conversions step back and ask yourself: is this going to turn someone on? Does your content stand out?

Mainstream can't jump to the meat grinder or have it at all and that is all they have to work with so they have to make it count.

[yuu.design]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

seduction is so underrated. A lot of porn skips that part all together these days or considers 2 minutes of a girl moving in slow motion to some music at the start of the scene is all there is to it. Seduction is pretty much the base of our whole industry. We started off with provocative text links, the perfect image that lures the surfer in to clicking the banner and the payoff when they finally reach the tour/join page. If you ever have issues with conversions step back and ask yourself: is this going to turn someone on? Does your content stand out?

Mainstream can't jump to the meat grinder or have it at all and that is all they have to work with so they have to make it count.

Good point bro!

[skrog]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

Than porn....

I watched Blue is The Warmest Color on Netflix. Excellent movie.

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by skrog

I watched Blue is The Warmest Color on Netflix. Excellent movie.

Im waiting for the Blu Ray ...

[skrog]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

Im waiting for the Blu Ray ...

You won't be disappointed.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by skrog

I watched Blue is The Warmest Color on Netflix. Excellent movie.

I disagree, a little boring.

[blackmonsters]

Porn can get boring faster then mainstream movies.
Porn has scenes that people don't like.
How many times do you see a mainstream movie and think there were 3 scenes in it that you could have skipped?

When porn producers try to sell more they tend to just get more extreme and graphic, which is where they lose a lot of viewers as much as they gain some.

[EddyTheDog]

I saw a film a while back that had the first mainstream 'real cum shot' - Even though it was str8 it was hotter than any porn I have watched...

[Cherry7]

A lesson that can be learnt, better less but better....

That production values and other erotic acts other than just fucking are important.

[Klen]

Erotic movies are definitely better,i still remember one Erotic movie about some woman which was writing erotic novels and to get inspiration she was working as whore in Paris.And on the end of movie she found out how dude which was ordering her novels was her ex-lover.

[arock10]

just watch that damn beyonce vid

[skrog]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

I disagree, a little boring.

It was great when I watched it. I wasn't bored one bit.

[mikesouth]

There is a reason taht people who make porn are in porn even the ones that profess to be making "real movies"

The truth is that if they could make real movies they would be making real movies very few people in porn have even a basic knowledge of character arcs, color palattes and film basics and as a result they can make a porn scene but they cant make anything erotic

Now in defense of most of us porners myself included Im/we are not trying to make a real film when we make porn, is there a market for very high end story driven erotica...no doubt that there is but I cant think of anyone in porn that has the ability to do it.

[Cherry7]

Wasn't Burt Reynolds trying in Boogie Nights?

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by skrog

It was great when I watched it. I wasn't bored one bit.

The movie it is worth watching (including 10 minutes lesbian scene) but... most of the movie is made of "face of Adele". Especially at least 15 minutes you see her eating something, other 15 minutes she sleeping, ok she is cute but I would have cut most of the eating and sleeping scenes, even I understand voyeur fetish value would be then limited.

[pornmasta]

you like propaganda...

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

you like propaganda...

Don't think so

[CurrentlySober]

Considering I have not viewed either of the three movies posted above, its difficult to answer...

But an interesting question none the less

[Mediamix]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

seduction is so underrated. A lot of porn skips that part all together these days or considers 2 minutes of a girl moving in slow motion to some music at the start of the scene is all there is to it. Seduction is pretty much the base of our whole industry. We started off with provocative text links, the perfect image that lures the surfer in to clicking the banner and the payoff when they finally reach the tour/join page. If you ever have issues with conversions step back and ask yourself: is this going to turn someone on? Does your content stand out?

Mainstream can't jump to the meat grinder or have it at all and that is all they have to work with so they have to make it count.

[DWB]

Very few in porn can make an erotic movie. Everyone just films people fucking, and it's hardly erotic. Here and there they do, but mostly it's just people screwing, and often unnaturally hard and too vocal. Mainstream runs circles around us for making erotic scenes.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

Don't think so

well here is it propaganda.
In your country where there is probably a lot of christian stuffs, it's perhaps a breath of oxygen or what you want... but here it's propaganda


here is why:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/39th_C%C3%A9sar_Awards

The 39th Annual César Awards ceremony, presented by the French Academy of Cinema Arts and Techniques (Académie des Arts et Techniques du Cinéma), are scheduled to be held on 28 February 2014, at the Théâtre du Châtelet in Paris.[1] Me, Myself and Mum received ten nominations, Stranger by the Lake and Blue Is the Warmest Colour both received eight nominations each.[2]

So, the most nomiated movies were all 3 movies based on alternative sexuality:

"Me, Myself and Mum": most awarded: mother wanted a girl, she acted with me like if i was a girl, people think i'm gay, i'm not.
"Stranger by the Lake": movie on gay lifestyle
"Blue Is the Warmest Colour": a girl discovers that she is a lesbian

While in france, there is here this debate on gay mariage.
So this is for me a propaganda movie.

Oh yes, the "Blue Is the Warmest Colour" movie was made by a guy with a muslim name. Here it makes sense: it's another hint that's the french "vivre ensemble" is promoted. While in USA you seem to live in communities, here we are supposed to be one nation, so people with no real differences...
So muslim have to think that gay is ok, gays should accept muslims and other non senses like that...

[Cherry7]

If I understand you correctly you think the films are propaganda because they are promoting a life style you don't agree with?

I wonder whether that is the motivation of the directors who made the films.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

So, the most nomiated movies were all 3 movies based on alternative sexuality:

"Me, Myself and Mum": most awarded: mother wanted a girl, she acted with me like if i was a girl, people think i'm gay, i'm not.
"Stranger by the Lake": movie on gay lifestyle
"Blue Is the Warmest Colour": a girl discovers that she is a lesbian

It's just an unfortunate happening occurred unintentionally, unexpectedly or by chance.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by DWB

Very few in porn can make an erotic movie. Everyone just films people fucking, and it's hardly erotic. Here and there they do, but mostly it's just people screwing, and often unnaturally hard and too vocal. Mainstream runs circles around us for making erotic scenes.

I think if you made a porn movie with real actors, real writers, a real story and a real budget it could be pretty amazing but those people would likely not agree to do it.

I guess my point is its unfair to compare the two. They are not the same thing, they don't have the same ingredients (though they may superficially seem to) and they don't serve the same purpose.

[Cherry7]

In actual fact there is some cross over. Some porn players have acted in main stream films, the french film romance for example.

Some porn movies have higher budgets that mainstream, and I have met models who can act.

It is the whole culture that puts itself in a ghetto.

There was a time just before video when erotic cinema almost broke out, "The Story of O" is not a bad movie...

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

seduction is so underrated. A lot of porn skips that part all together these days or considers 2 minutes of a girl moving in slow motion to some music at the start of the scene is all there is to it. Seduction is pretty much the base of our whole industry. We started off with provocative text links, the perfect image that lures the surfer in to clicking the banner and the payoff when they finally reach the tour/join page. If you ever have issues with conversions step back and ask yourself: is this going to turn someone on? Does your content stand out?

Mainstream can't jump to the meat grinder or have it at all and that is all they have to work with so they have to make it count.

yep, and the europeans clean the fuck up with it too

if we were smart, we'd go hardcore developing dramas etc that included hardcore XXX.. in theory you'd be using the corporate mainstream copyright protection as a shield, and knock out the MS from taking over the adult industry

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by Cherry7

If I understand you correctly you think the films are propaganda because they are promoting a life style you don't agree with?

I wonder whether that is the motivation of the directors who made the films.

No they are propaganda because they promote the message that the governement wants to promote.

Oh yes, the french gvt gives a lot of money to produce movies...

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

It's just an unfortunate happening occurred unintentionally, unexpectedly or by chance.

Let's say that there is 10% of gay (it's probably below).
What's the odd to have 3 gays movie ?
1/1000

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

if we were smart, we'd go hardcore developing dramas etc that included hardcore XXX.. in theory you'd be using the corporate mainstream copyright protection as a shield, and knock out the MS from taking over the adult industry

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xax...a-katsuni_news

Here a guy critizes katsuni to be a bad actress...
So if you make a real movie, you need an actress that can play something else that noisy sounds..

[MaDalton]

i doubt that someone that wants to jerk off wants to look for the 10 minutes of boobs hidden in a 2.5h movie

but to watch with your GF to get in the mood..

there is enough room for both

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xax...a-katsuni_news

Here a guy critizes katsuni to be a bad actress...

Thats not in this video

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i doubt that someone that wants to jerk off wants to look for the 10 minutes of boobs hidden in a 2.5h movie

but to watch with your GF to get in the mood..

there is enough room for both

Sums it up hahahahaha

[nico-t]

you can't compare the 2. Who jacks off at an erotic film?

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i doubt that someone that wants to jerk off wants to look for the 10 minutes of boobs hidden in a 2.5h movie

but to watch with your GF to get in the mood..

there is enough room for both

I jerk off more to mainstream erotica than porn. Started with TV. Charlie's Angels.

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

No they are propaganda because they promote the message that the governement wants to promote.

Oh yes, the french gvt gives a lot of money to produce movies...

There are lots of hetro French erotic films. Don't be silly.

The funding for the French film industry comes from a levy on the exhibitors, the ones who make money out of the product, NOT the French state.