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mikesouth · 03-25-2014, 12:44 PM

Thats rather meaningless its a lot for a broken toe, its peanuts for brain surgery

Sid70 · 03-25-2014, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Thats rather meaningless its a lot for a broken toe, its peanuts for brain surgery

It's generally a lot, even considering the dollar being fucked.

stoka · 03-25-2014, 12:47 PM

reverse side?

Tom_PM · 03-25-2014, 12:51 PM

Heart attack?

stoka · 03-25-2014, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM

Heart attack?

before or after the bill ? ;/

_Richard_ · 03-25-2014, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Thats rather meaningless its a lot for a broken toe, its peanuts for brain surgery

http://www.businessinsider.com/reddi...502931-2013-12

appendectomy

apparently the chain that runs the hospital just paid out 46 million for an out of court settlement about false and misleading billing practices

sucks being 20 and having a bill like that

kinkstercash · 03-25-2014, 01:02 PM

This is the same chain that tried to tell me that a simple swab test was $908. $240 after insurance. After months of back and forth, because there was simply no way I was going to pay that much for such a routine test, they discovered a "billing code error". I paid $23.00.

But yes that really sucks. Even with insurance a catastrophe can easily ruin you financially in this country!

_Richard_ · 03-25-2014, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kinkstercash

This is the same chain that tried to tell me that a simple swab test was $908. $240 after insurance. After months of back and forth, because there was simply no way I was going to pay that much for such a routine test, they discovered a "billing code error". I paid $23.00.

But yes that really sucks. Even with insurance a catastrophe can easily ruin you financially in this country!

wow.

8char

MaDalton · 03-25-2014, 01:04 PM

i went to the doctor today - had a little "thing" that costs in the US between $1200 and up to more than $8000

my copay: $1.50

my monthly healthcare insurance: $45

damn socialism...

Matt 26z · 03-25-2014, 01:19 PM

I wouldn't pay it. They already got $44k from the insurance company.

PaperstreetWinston · 03-25-2014, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stoka

before or after the bill ? ;/

well played sir

arock10 · 03-25-2014, 01:54 PM

best health care in the world

seeandsee · 03-25-2014, 03:05 PM

so what was original bill of 55k for?

DVTimes · 03-25-2014, 03:53 PM

And to think if your in the UK you get it free.

Rochard · 03-25-2014, 04:02 PM

Take a look at the actual costs....

$16,000 for the actual surgery: I might be okay with this really.

$7,501 for two hours in the recovery room: HUH? A bed in a room with a heart monitor... Even if you have a nurse standing by tending only to that one person every second.... That can't be more than $200. Think about that for a moment.

$4,878 for one night's stay: HUH? A very small cramped hotel room with a few crappy meals and a nurse that checked in on him three times in eight hours? That's worth maybe $400 at most.

$4,562 for anesthesia: HUH? $4k to pump $30 worth of drugs into someone and then monitor them for two hours during an operation? Even if you pay them $100/hour, that's only $200 plus $30 worth of medication.

Fuck me with a broomstick already. No wonder why our healthcare is so fucked up.

Rochard · 03-25-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

And to think if your in the UK you get it free.

LOL. Nothing is free. You pay out of the ass for it, you just don't see it. Aren't you guys in the UK taxed out the arse?

American Psycho · 03-25-2014, 04:37 PM

Yoda say thats pretty damn alot

mikesouth · 03-25-2014, 09:37 PM

I wrote this back in 2007 right after I had spinal surgery....here are a few of the charges I had in 2007

Health Care Costs….Check This Out:

These are some of the charges from the hospital (ya the same one that tried to kill me)

I was in for 8 nights

Room (private) $5,184.00

Drugs $7,577.00

“Supplies” $10,000.00

Operating Room (6 hrs) $11,610.00

Recovery Room 1 (hr) $1,041.00

these are only a few of the charges…. But I want to point out a few things lets do it from the top.

Can you imagine the room and service Id have gotten for 5200 bucks a week?

Drugs…Ok this one really got me….they gave me 2 percocet every 3 hrs, morphine via a pump (50mL lasted a day) a total of 21 medrol and about 30 neurontin there is no way in hell that those drugs could come to that total unless they are price gouging (they are)

Supplies…what supplies they changed my sheets every other day, I presume they WASH and reuse those….ok maybe my IV was a supply but 10K for an IV?

the operating room….i wasn’t concious in therre so I have no idea but for that price it better have more controls than the starship enterprise.

recovery room…1000 bucks to put me in a room with a dozen other people where a nurse watches me for an hour while I become conscious again?

These don’t even incluude what the doctor charges or the anestesiologist. The other misc charges pushed my hospital bill alone to over 50K.

So what’s going on here? this isn’t a government subsidized hospital with patients that dont pay why are they price gouging? why are they charging 7K for drugs that could have been gotten at any drugstore for under 500 bucks? hel you could buy them on the street for less moeny.

And at these prices why can’t they get qualified nurses who care and are competent and dont try to kill me?

Yes Im rather pissed……

mikesouth · 03-25-2014, 09:40 PM

If I ever have to go to the hospital again

I’m going to start by getting a room at the Ritz and hiring a hooker every night. The service will be better, the hooker can give me a nice bath and take care of me even if I cant fuck and she will be prettier, nicer and probably more professional than the nurses were at Northside Hospital. And the best part, Ii will save money.

Next I’m going to hit the drug dealers on the street and get my dilaudid and my oxycodones, they will be a LOT cheaper.

ErectMedia · 03-25-2014, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stoka

before or after the bill ? ;/

ShackledMaidens · 03-26-2014, 12:48 AM

UK cost £0

klinton · 03-26-2014, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i went to the doctor today - had a little "thing" that costs in the US between $1200 and up to more than $8000

my copay: $1.50

my monthly healthcare insurance: $45

damn socialism...

it is not about "socialism" or capitalism...you just pay normal price, like 90 % of people in Europe and rest of tthe world pay (except maybe Swiss guys)
can't help anyone without common sense, sorry.....they will pay their "cosmic" prices

Tom.K · 03-26-2014, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i went to the doctor today - had a little "thing" that costs in the US between $1200 and up to more than $8000

my copay: $1.50

my monthly healthcare insurance: $45

damn socialism...

damn forever...

Manfap · 03-26-2014, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

LOL. Nothing is free. You pay out of the ass for it, you just don't see it. Aren't you guys in the UK taxed out the arse?

25% after the first $16k and 40% after about $70k
pensions/medical is a capped % aswell.

Put it this way. if its costs $12k a year to insure a family. that's tax on a $60k salary.

Casio22 · 03-26-2014, 05:25 AM

MaDalton · 03-26-2014, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton

it is not about "socialism" or capitalism...you just pay normal price, like 90 % of people in Europe and rest of tthe world pay (except maybe Swiss guys)
can't help anyone without common sense, sorry.....they will pay their "cosmic" prices

i just use the "socialism" thing as running gag

pimpmaster9000 · 03-26-2014, 06:54 AM

They found something 4cm big in my fathers left lung and because he does not live in my country he had no health insurance. I went the most expensive way possible, he had surgery to do an immediate biopsy and everything cost me 400$ total keep in mind he has ZERO insurance...

thank god after this everything was fine BUT on the xray the tumor did not show BUT on the CT scan it did...the biopsy came back as benign BUT the surgeon felt that we needed to make sure with another biopsy, only this time deeper, and this time it would cost me a whole whopping 50$ (just the biopsy) the surgeon did it for free because he felt it was the right thing to do...

2 surgeries and 2 biopsies total: 450$

the difference between US healthcare and our 3rd world healthcare is that our healthcare is actually done by human beings...I do not think you can find one doctor in our whole country who could morally justify billing you 5000$ for a room when you are sick and in need of treatment

Tom_PM · 03-26-2014, 06:58 AM

That's why there should be no such thing as health insurance. A doctor would never charge a patient $5000 for a bed. But a Hospital has no problem charging an Insurance Company $5000 for a bed. Everyone chip in and we'll take care of everyone. Seems to work. So does the metric system.

Sid70 · 03-26-2014, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i went to the doctor today - had a little "thing" that costs in the US between $1200 and up to more than $8000

my copay: $1.50

my monthly healthcare insurance: $45

damn socialism...

About the same in Poland, co-pay is not widely used tho, as of we have a universal system. Generally if you work you're covered.

Sid70 · 03-26-2014, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap

25% after the first $16k and 40% after about $70k
pensions/medical is a capped % aswell.

Put it this way. if its costs $12k a year to insure a family. that's tax on a $60k salary.

Dafuk, God Help The Queen LOL!

candyflip · 03-26-2014, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

I wouldn't pay it. They already got $44k from the insurance company.

That was also likely negotiated between the Insurance Co. and the Hospital and probably much less than the price we see on the invoice.

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	I wrote this back in 2007 right after I had spinal surgery....here are a few of the charges I had in 2007 Health Care Costs….Check This Out: These are some of the charges from the hospital (ya the same one that tried to kill me) I was in for 8 nights Room (private) $5,184.00 Drugs $7,577.00 “Supplies” $10,000.00 Operating Room (6 hrs) $11,610.00 Recovery Room 1 (hr) $1,041.00 these are only a few of the charges…. But I want to point out a few things lets do it from the top. Can you imagine the room and service Id have gotten for 5200 bucks a week? Drugs…Ok this one really got me….they gave me 2 percocet every 3 hrs, morphine via a pump (50mL lasted a day) a total of 21 medrol and about 30 neurontin there is no way in hell that those drugs could come to that total unless they are price gouging (they are) Supplies…what supplies they changed my sheets every other day, I presume they WASH and reuse those….ok maybe my IV was a supply but 10K for an IV? the operating room….i wasn’t concious in therre so I have no idea but for that price it better have more controls than the starship enterprise. recovery room…1000 bucks to put me in a room with a dozen other people where a nurse watches me for an hour while I become conscious again? These don’t even incluude what the doctor charges or the anestesiologist. The other misc charges pushed my hospital bill alone to over 50K. So what’s going on here? this isn’t a government subsidized hospital with patients that dont pay why are they price gouging? why are they charging 7K for drugs that could have been gotten at any drugstore for under 500 bucks? hel you could buy them on the street for less moeny. And at these prices why can’t they get qualified nurses who care and are competent and dont try to kill me? Yes Im rather pissed…… __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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