the ideal tube...

[The Hun]

... would take people's submissions only if those people have the rights to those movies as well
... doesn't use your content to sell penis enlargement pills or webcames
... uses your content ONLY to promote YOUR sites
... would have no archive to make sure people still have a reason to sign up
... doesn't get DMCA's 'cause they make sure all their content is legal
... doesn't keep your content available forever, but lets it expire instead

now if only someone would build this...

Oh, please check https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1135...ghlight=thehun, still looking for site owners with video content

[Alex1776]

Sounds ideal for content owners, not so ideal for surfers though

[Ruseful]

Originally Posted by The Hun

... would take people's submissions only if those people have the rights to those movies as well
... doesn't use your content to sell penis enlargement pills or webcames
... uses your content ONLY to promote YOUR sites
... would have no archive to make sure people still have a reason to sign up
... doesn't get DMCA's 'cause they make sure all their content is legal
... doesn't keep your content available forever, but lets it expire instead

now if only someone would build this...

cloud.xxx and tube.xxx is coming Patrick, does the above and so much more. Its a tube for the content owners in the industry, that will effectively be run by them. I will be reaching out to content companies soon to create an advisory board. I am excited, as are the major content companies I have already spoken too, and they are already on board.

Changes are happening in the tube environment, companies are manoeuvring into positions and I can tell you that content owners will be seeing a nice power shift in their direction. Cloud.xxx and Tube.xxx will enforce this power.

[Klen]

There is a plenty of tubes which do exact that.But they dont have much traffic.

[The Hun]

Originally Posted by Ruseful

cloud.xxx and tube.xxx is coming Patrick, does the above and so much more. Its a tube for the content owners in the industry, that will effectively be run by them. I will be reaching out to content companies soon to create an advisory board. I am excited, as are the major content companies I have already spoken too, and they are already on board.

Changes are happening in the tube environment, companies are manoeuvring into positions and I can tell you that content owners will be seeing a nice power shift in their direction. Cloud.xxx and Tube.xxx will enforce this power.

HEY... don't troll my post with your own tubes... it's already done and ready... traffic is coming in as we speak... it seems people didn't get my insinuation on why I was looking for video content owners :-)

[The Hun]

Originally Posted by Alex1776

Sounds ideal for content owners, not so ideal for surfers though

If that means full clips, LEGALLY, it might be a different story

[Denny]

Originally Posted by Alex1776

Sounds ideal for content owners, not so ideal for surfers though

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

There is a plenty of tubes which do exact that.But they dont have much traffic.

[Blackie786]

I mean...TUBES.....

[Klen]

Originally Posted by The Hun

If that means full clips, LEGALLY, it might be a different story

Not really,as there is a lot of legal tubes with full clips,and while some of them indeed have good traffic(see porn.com for example),illegal tubes will be number one always as they can upload fresh content much much faster.

[michel]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Not really,as there is a lot of legal tubes with full clips,and while some of them indeed have good traffic(see porn.com for example),illegal tubes will be number one always as they can upload fresh content much much faster.

Ehm, fresh content? Adding another video that has been on about every other tube site for months/years is not the same as adding fresh content..

[StinkyPink]

Sounds exciting!

[sojproductions]

Basically the old MGP model with embedded players without all the ads, perfect!

[sojproductions]

Originally Posted by michel

Ehm, fresh content? Adding another video that has been on about every other tube site for months/years is not the same as adding fresh content..

How many vids are being produced each week compared with 5 years ago? anybodys guess but must be down considerably. So the same regurgitated videos are going to keep cycling round and round with the users of tubes inevitably complaining that their free porn is getting boring! One day they will learn!... or not

[Spunky]

It will never happen

[Ruseful]

Originally Posted by The Hun

HEY... don't troll my post with your own tubes... it's already done and ready... traffic is coming in as we speak... it seems people didn't get my insinuation on why I was looking for video content owners :-)

ah sorry, I thought you were genuinely asking for someone to build a tube like you described. I will remove my post.

Cant edit or remove the post

[The Hun]

Originally Posted by Ruseful

ah sorry, I thought you were genuinely asking for someone to build a tube like you described. I will remove my post.

Cant edit or remove the post

lol... no harm done man.

[StinkyPink]

It feels so cozy in here.

[Ruseful]

Originally Posted by The Hun

lol... no harm done man.

Sorry, but the good news is that once we are up and running with cloud, that we will be able to fill your tube full of 100% compliant material, straight from the content owners, by the content owners.

[Roald]

Looking forward to working on both projects!!

[freecartoonporn]

wont work, thats there is illegal tube sites model.

[StinkyPink]

Originally Posted by The Hun

Oh, please check https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1135...ghlight=thehun, still looking for site owners with video content

Do you have a working model or is this still in the planning stage?

[Paul]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

wont work, thats there is illegal tube sites model.

Oh it will work

It all comes down to the user experience, if you can provide a better user experience to the surfers than the competition then you get the traffic.

[seeandsee]

and illegal tube don't care to be ideal

[LeRoy]

Originally Posted by The Hun

lol... no harm done man.

[The Hun]

Originally Posted by StinkyPink

Do you have a working model or is this still in the planning stage?

It works... up and running. Geotargeting, geoblocking, only ONE clip up per site, no ads on the video page part from the revshare link to the producer of the video, video expires after a number of days to keep stuff exclusive. I don't want to go on the market with just another tube site. I want to try to get good quality videos, legally, and with all efforts into making the producer money. And since it's a revshare I hope I'll make them a lot of money

I don't think it's fair to use other people's hard work to sell penis enlargement pills... that's just not right. I though long and hard about this and this is what I came up with... It's a work in progress and I don't expect miracles right from the start, but with the right support from the industry and my own blood and tears I'm pretty sure I could pull this off!

[The Hun]

Originally Posted by Paul

Oh it will work

It all comes down to the user experience, if you can provide a better user experience to the surfers than the competition then you get the traffic.

You're right. That's very important! That's why I don't want to go for short tube clips you see everywhere. I make sure only ONE video per site is available at any time. Show the surfer what's available, but don't saturate them with content.

It's like the old days where I was accused of giving away too much. I told people a bar analogy. I run a bar where I give away free beer. But the beer can be warm, or too cold, or stale, or too foamy, or no foamy enough... For some people that might be good enough never to go to another bar again, but eventually I will serve someone a beer that makes him realize he just had the best glass of beer he ever had. But I had just that one beer I then send him to the bar across the street where he can purchase as many of those beers as he wants. This principle has worked on thehun for years, and I'm sure it will now.

Don't trick people into paying for something, show them what they can get when they pay. And don't give away too much. Why would anybody buy milk if they can get the cow for free, right? And don't steal people's content to sell penis enlargement pills... just sayin'...

[LeRoy]

I like where this is going! I've always asked for more adspace when uploading our content. I dont like to see a content partner page with one or two links to our site and 6 other spots going to different sites.

You're on top of this one and doing something about it.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by The Hun

It works... up and running. Geotargeting, geoblocking, only ONE clip up per site, no ads on the video page part from the revshare link to the producer of the video, video expires after a number of days to keep stuff exclusive. I don't want to go on the market with just another tube site. I want to try to get good quality videos, legally, and with all efforts into making the producer money. And since it's a revshare I hope I'll make them a lot of money

I don't think it's fair to use other people's hard work to sell penis enlargement pills... that's just not right. I though long and hard about this and this is what I came up with... It's a work in progress and I don't expect miracles right from the start, but with the right support from the industry and my own blood and tears I'm pretty sure I could pull this off!

If you are really concerned by using sponsor content for promoting something else,then just for promoting misc stuff make/buy your own content,and problem solved.Beside in my experience putting an non-related ad while you can put related is waste of traffic.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

I like where this is going! I've always asked for more adspace when uploading our content. I dont like to see a content partner page with one or two links to our site and 6 other spots going to different sites.

You're on top of this one and doing something about it.

Some tubes dont even had link,they give only watermark.But yes i was thinking about this as well,i think it would be fair to give uploader atleast 2 ad spaces.

[The Hun]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Some tubes dont even had link,they give only watermark.But yes i was thinking about this as well,i think it would be fair to give uploader atleast 2 ad spaces.

I give them all... in a revshare... and text-only... I want to make it super-clean... Or should I say: I made it super clean

[The Porn Nerd]

Patrick I contacted Parney about getting you videos. We literally have thousands of full-length clips from over 15 paysites. So I would love to be a part of this. Hopefully Parney told you about me. Haha!!

Good luck either way, it's very exciting this new project of yours!

Oh - and interesting how Ruseful is back after deleting his profile awhile back because he couldn't take the GFY heat. Just re-joined in April I see.....lol

[bean-aid]

Well... interesting.

Change the concept to premium tube membership (all the expired vids available in members area)... then each surfer is a potential member eliminating the CTR (to partner site) and never have to worry about third party cookies. Split profits with program owners based on which video surfer signed up from. Take it a step further and premium member also gets full access to partner site.

But maybe the site have to look totally free... I don't think so because all major tubes now have premium memberships so surfers are accustomed to it.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Very nice - would be very curious about the CTR to the sponsor's site since the best I was able to get with current content partner programs was somewhere close to 5 pct. whereas the norm was 1 - 3 pct.

So you basically got as much as one click back for 100 impressions your video generates to all the ads around it (which are usually paid for as CPI) - you can do the math.

Best of luck!

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by The Hun

only ONE clip up per site

Would you have enough of clips/updates? People now are used to lots and lots of updates (thanks to mawin and other thieves that poured so many content everyday).

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Would you have enough of clips/updates? People now are used to lots and lots of updates (thanks to mawin and other thieves that poured so many content everyday).

We need to change what people are used to getting and expect.

I'm not fully on board with or against this concept. It is still a tube site using full length videos, But has my attention and is defiantly a step in the right direction.

[The Hun]

[QUOTE=CarlosTheGaucho;20051140]Very nice - would be very curious about the CTR to the sponsor's site since the best I was able to get with current content partner programs was somewhere close to 5 pct. whereas the norm was 1 - 3 pct.

So you basically got as much as one click back for 100 impressions your video generates to all the ads around it (which are usually paid for as CPI) - you can do the math.

Best of luck![/QUOTE

First results: 1:36. There is a gay clip on there with half the views of the rest of the clips, but that's at 1:17.

[The Hun]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Would you have enough of clips/updates? People now are used to lots and lots of updates (thanks to mawin and other thieves that poured so many content everyday).

That's why we have to go for quality. Good clips, not trailers and such. We are filling the database now, there are some videos in there now I wasn't aiming for, but I want to get this going. The quality will be improving once we're up and running completely. Also, this is new to everybody (including me), so we all need to be educated over time a bit

The user will eventually always go for quality. Sure, there's the freeloader people that go nuts when it comes to downloading, but those people don't convert anyway. One clip per site at any time, enough to keep people interested and at the same time enough to keep then eager!

[StinkyPink]

The main thing that sucks about the partner tubes is the ads for everything except a tiny text link and a jpg banner wtf. That is why I think they are pointless. This idea intrigues me a bit.

[tony286]

I paraphrase what the former owner of manwin said in an article. We have found under 5 min clips benefited the content producer,the surfer went to their site. Over 5 mins benefited us and the stickiness of the site.

[media]

Good to hear from you today Patrick! Will get things rolling on our end to be able to work with ya on this project!

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by The Hun

Also, this is new to everybody (including me), so we all need to be educated over time a bit

The user will eventually always go for quality. Sure, there's the freeloader people that go nuts when it comes to downloading, but those people don't convert anyway. One clip per site at any time, enough to keep people interested and at the same time enough to keep then eager!

It's actually not new... it has been tested by myself and 1000's others. The click through rate will be *maybe* 3% average after all is said and done.

You will be missing 85% of the money because of no ads.

Make it a global adult site... variations from the masses, and it will work.

I spent over a year on this concept and emailed you a few times for input, advice, partnership... etc.

It will not work as a clean tube at this time in point... if you make it look like a *cloud*, where you have the best membership site in the world... it may work.

I have sent you an email with my thoughts.

[Nicky]

I'll be in contact soon

[mamaliga]

dream on baby

[ITraffic]

why would a surfer choose you site filled with promotional videos rather than one filled with full scenes?

[The Hun]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

why would a surfer choose you site filled with promotional videos rather than one filled with full scenes?

[Romainz]

Anything could work as long the traffic is there and we all know u got a good stream of it. Im on the same boat feel wrong having all those penis enlargement ads and other stuff around a video you gain from someone who spent times and money for it. Love my ratio without those ads anyways. Good Luck with ur project and if you could send me a email to where we can send legal videos trailers to you would be awesome Pce.

[PR_Glen]

industry cannibalism at it's finest. congrats

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

industry cannibalism at it's finest. congrats

Not sure if serious. Or.....

Sent email mang.... would love a channel up there on hun tube.

[Chris]

but we would but stuck asking again how does the hun make money doing this

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by The Hun

... would take people's submissions only if those people have the rights to those movies as well
... doesn't use your content to sell penis enlargement pills or webcames
... uses your content ONLY to promote YOUR sites
... would have no archive to make sure people still have a reason to sign up
... doesn't get DMCA's 'cause they make sure all their content is legal
... doesn't keep your content available forever, but lets it expire instead

now if only someone would build this...

Oh, please check https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1135...ghlight=thehun, still looking for site owners with video content

You also need "... streams your content with rtmpe making it a pain in the ass albiet not impossible for other tubes to scrape", otherwise all that legal content is gonna be on other tubes pushing penis pills and webcams anyways.