Fact: rusia wins Information War against Ukraine

[MrDeiz]

rusia has much better coverage in EU media and has a wide network of PR agencies and cyber warriors.
rusian position's coverage dominates in relation to Ukrainian and even EU officials.

Ukraine is going to fight and fight hard for its sovereignty. I represent people of Ukraine in my gfy posts. The people of Ukraine hated previous officials of Yanukovich and they hate current ones as well. Both were corrupted and betrayers. There're some trustworthy people in current govn, but they don't have any significant positions.

The revolution brought us a lot of bright young people who did a lot during revo and people trust them to rule the state. The former opposition didn't let those get in state power. People were trying to make the old politicians leave the state power, but ruskie began the war and we can't continue the revolutions while we have aggressor on our borders.

Also there're much more ruskie and those with ruskie origins here at gfy spreading lie on what's happening in Ukraine all day long. I can't compete with those, but

Thx for listening and have a great day everyone.

[mineistaken]

You are right, they have lots and lots of paid article commentators (at least in all of the ex soviet countries) as well.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Fact: rusia wins Information War against Ukraine

[MrDeiz]

sorry, the OP was cut for some reason

i'm still going to bring some crucial info on Ukrainian situation

i suggest you to follow https://twitter.com/ukrpravda_news since they are the most trusted in Ukraine, they retweet EU officials and engl speaking journalists. many photos and videos (they confirm those before posting, since rusian media post photos and videos from other hot spots and "present" them as Ukrainian)

Some key points
1. The people of Ukraine DO NOT support Tymoshenko. She's another corrupted official from the past.
2. It takes long to finish AntiTerror operation because our special forces have an order not to attack buildings, while terrors are hiding there and use people of live shield.
3. rusia has injected a lot of agents during Yanukovich regime in police, military and intelligence (top executives of those organizations were rusian citizens) and those structures can't be trusted. AntiTerror troops are completed with former militaries and revolution participants, it's the most effective organization those days.
4. If no ruskie diversionists and mass-propaganda/blatant lie in Eastern Ukraine that mess would never happen
5. US is interested to have corrupted officials ruling the country.
6. The only thing Ukraine can be proud of is the people. If not us, then politicians would have the country sold a month ago. There's a huge sabotage and lack of action by top officials. If not us, antiterror operation against ruskie diversionists would never has happened. The people of Ukraine brought the game of pootin, US and EU. The society needs another form of ruling, since current political system is not effective at all and it's built on lie and manipulations

[evy97]

Russain Today is the best source of news. Numbers don't lie

[klinton]

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

The only thing Ukraine can be proud of is the people. If not us, then politicians would have the country sold a month ago. There's a huge sabotage and lack of action by top officials. If not us, antiterror operation against ruskie diversionists would never has happened. The people of Ukraine brought the game of pootin, US and EU. The society needs another form of ruling, since current political system is not effective at all and it's built on lie and manipulations

who elected Yanukovich and Tymoshenko ? who allowed Kuchma to do such things ? Ruskie agents or people of Ukraine ?

[seeandsee]

How old are you? Will you go to army? What are you waiting for?

[MrDeiz]

Originally Posted by klinton

who elected Yanukovich and Tymoshenko ? who allowed Kuchma to do such things ? Ruskie agents or people of Ukraine ?

we were living in quazi-real world during USSR time while all Ukrainian inteligents were killed by stalin, taken to syberia/goolag, millions were killed because of Holodomor, millions Ukrainians were killed in WWII. We have got nation without wisdom in 90s.

rusia was trying to kill our nation over centuries, but we are alive and having some very best times thx to revolution. The people of Ukraine has learned their lesson and continue to learn. We ask the world to stop ruskie, so we can build our state

[MrDeiz]

I really don't understand all the hate coming from ruskie guys on Ukraine. We are fighting for our right to rule our country against pootin and his puppet yanukovich. Why do you hate us? We want to have modern and innovative country, not to be given one, but to build one. We don't want ruskie, nor americans, but we can't fight pootin all alone.
What's wrong with that?

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

I really don't understand all the hate coming from ruskie guys on Ukraine. We are fighting for our right to rule our country against pootin and his puppet yanukovich. Why do you hate us? We want to have modern and innovative country, not to be given one, but to build one. We don't want ruskie, nor americans, but we can't fight pootin all alone.
What's wrong with that?

Deiz are you going to army to protect your country?
You did't saw my question?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

Ukraine is going to fight and fight hard for its sovereignty.

To fight whom? You know, it's hard to win the information war when your government is fighting against its own citizens

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by klinton

who elected Yanukovich and Tymoshenko ? who allowed Kuchma to do such things ? Ruskie agents or people of Ukraine ?

Sorry for a non-English quote. I've took it from a Russian-speaking webmaster board. I couldn't say it better that this guy:

Пять раз выбирали президента - все пять раз оказывался пидарас(один ДВАЖДЫ пидарас). Пять раз выбирали парламент - пять раз оказывалось по 450 пидарасов (Некоторые умудрились по пять раз влезть!)
Выбирать шестой раз "президента" из кандидатов где ВСЕ пидарасы уже кажется нет смысла.

I believe it sums everything up pretty well

P.S. пидарас = fag

[ZiggiZiggiCrew]

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

we were living in quazi-real world during USSR time while all Ukrainian inteligents were killed by stalin, taken to syberia/goolag, millions were killed because of Holodomor, millions Ukrainians were killed in WWII. We have got nation without wisdom in 90s.

You are a clown and everybody knows it. Also everybody knows that the most suffered nation from Stalin's repressions are ethnic Russians.

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

rusia was trying to kill our nation over centuries

Russia have saved your asses from total slaughter a countless number of times. It saved you from Turks, from Poles, from German Nazis (don't even mention the older "events"). Your so hated Stalin has expanded your territory to the west (joined the lands he took from Poland, Hungary and Romania). Lenin has gave your the eastern and southern lands, Russian tzars gave your the north. And you are still unhappy (note the small red pice in the center of the map, it's the Ukraine BEFORE joining Russia).



What exactly the ukranski ppl did for the Ukraine? Right, they did nothing. Because lazy and useless alcoholics (proof) and nazis like you (no proof needed, it's just enough to read any of your posts here) are good keyboard warriors who will never go to army to fight like a man. The only thing you can do is to whine during the centuries and blame everybody else but you. Even your anthem is yammer (the US ambassador told that). Ukraine is not a nation (you all are Russians). It's just a territory ("ukraine" literally means "outskirts" in Russian). A very strange and broke one...

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

1. The people of Ukraine DO NOT support Tymoshenko. She's another corrupted official from the past.

In fact europe is for the opposite, just because they want women as military leader...

[klinton]

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

I really don't understand all the hate coming from ruskie guys on Ukraine. We are fighting for our right to rule our country against pootin and his puppet yanukovich.

also define "we"...I'm pretty sure that your country is divided and not everyone thinks like you...and people in Slavansk dont think like people in, lets say, Lviv...
So now your plan is to murder all those who think different way ?
If you will look at this map:
http://tinyurl.com/oh8l2j7

you will get also picture of current events...you violently overthrowed president of the half nation and now you call them terrorists...funny...it is as true as like to call all Maidan revolution by the same name - terrorists...

anyway, goodluck to you and live in peace with yourself and with your closest neighbours

[MrDeiz]

well, you see, those ruskie gfyers are actually regular ruskie - ignorant and dare. they understand the language of force to shut their dirty mouths up

this tweet pretty much sums it up
ian bremmer @ianbremmer

Russia 1 Destabilizes Ukraine
2 Awaits Ukraine military response
3 Denounces Ukraine for waging war on own people

rusian officials make ruskie believe in their country while their children/wives/family members live in EU/US http://www.opentown.org/news/39354/?fm=26336 for money they make in rusia

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

sorry, the OP was cut for some reason

i'm still going to bring some crucial info on Ukrainian situation

i suggest you to follow https://twitter.com/ukrpravda_news since they are the most trusted in Ukraine, they retweet EU officials and engl speaking journalists. many photos and videos (they confirm those before posting, since rusian media post photos and videos from other hot spots and "present" them as Ukrainian)

Some key points
1. The people of Ukraine DO NOT support Tymoshenko. She's another corrupted official from the past.
2. It takes long to finish AntiTerror operation because our special forces have an order not to attack buildings, while terrors are hiding there and use people of live shield.
3. rusia has injected a lot of agents during Yanukovich regime in police, military and intelligence (top executives of those organizations were rusian citizens) and those structures can't be trusted. AntiTerror troops are completed with former militaries and revolution participants, it's the most effective organization those days.
4. If no ruskie diversionists and mass-propaganda/blatant lie in Eastern Ukraine that mess would never happen
5. US is interested to have corrupted officials ruling the country.
6. The only thing Ukraine can be proud of is the people. If not us, then politicians would have the country sold a month ago. There's a huge sabotage and lack of action by top officials. If not us, antiterror operation against ruskie diversionists would never has happened. The people of Ukraine brought the game of pootin, US and EU. The society needs another form of ruling, since current political system is not effective at all and it's built on lie and manipulations

Answer to some key points, sorry I had to, because I can't believe what I am reading.
1. No one is asking what people are supporting. West will make your government and let you choose between their choices.(of course, in case Ruskies don't come to visit after Victory Day parade)
2.It takes long since military won't respond and are refusing orders so new government (that was not elected by people but came by force and violence) is putting force from nazis, volounteers and need to organize regarding NATO advices and instructions.
3. Of course that structures can't be trusted because normal people don't want to shoot and attack own people.
4.Nope, all this would never happen if Ukrainian people( I am talking about that smaller part in western part of country) applied agreement with Yanukovic and EU and didn't come to power by force,violence and fire.
5. I don't understand this constatation.
6.Russkies diversionists are your own citizens that do not want nazis to rule them. Simple as that. Once real Ruskies are there, you will know it,just like you found out fast in Crimea. Putin is letting warmongers like you to show who and what they are and since west do not want to do anything to stop this (of course they wont but when legitimately elected government in Yugoslavia did the same,or in Syria, they were defined as butchers, killers, etc...double standards that will cost Ukraine its own existence).

Society that had so many revolutions in last 20 years don't know shit and it is not capable to do anything useful. West is using that feeling ,like many times until now.

Meanwhile,in Eastern Ukraine (at 0:40)

[Sid70]

Deiz, FFS, even I am confused now.

[Sid70]

Ready to blow. Again.