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kane · 05-23-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

kane, I personally know a couple of dozen people who game the system for govt. checks.

I don't think ANYBODY working a job should be getting welfare...period.

I'm sorry, but not you, the govt., the media, or Warren Buffet himself will ever convince me that an able bodied person needs to get a check from the govt.

I've seen too much in my life and I personally know better.

If you have a phone, a car, a job, and a significant other whom you live with that has those same things? You don't NEED welfare. You might be getting it. But you certainly don't need it.

And I'm not going to blame Walmart or McDonalds for paying people what the job is actually worth.

If a person wants more out of life...then bust your ass and get it.

People used to take a second job on if they needed more money. I guess now, they just stick their hands out for welfare.

I was raised that it was shameful to take welfare.
This whole discussion sickens me.

While I agree with you and personally would rather work two jobs to better myself them sit on assistance, the point I am trying to make is that wealthy companies, in the pursuit of profit, are paying employees less and giving them fewer benefits. These people aren't demanding more because they are able to subsidize their income with government assistance which in turn costs tax dollars and which thereby increases those business owners' taxes.It is a cycle that never ends and the business owners are helping to perpetrate.

If a company is not going to offer full time employment and health benefits and they are going to encourage their employees to get on government assistance they can't then complain when their employees do just that and cause their taxes to increase.

If welfare was done away with, or at least it was changed so that it was very difficult to get, people would either work more, get second jobs, or in many cases I think we would see protests and demands for higher pay that may or may not work. But these days it is easier to just get on the government teat than it is to get a second job or work to improve your situation and both parties, the lazy worker and the business owner are helping feed into this system.

signupdamnit · 05-23-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I don't think ANYBODY working a job should be getting welfare...period.

I don't either. That's why I like the idea of raising the minimum wage. 42-58% of food stamp recipients who are expected to work (i.e. not children, disabled, or elderly) are working. Source: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...od-assistance/

So let us say someone works 30 hours a week at Walmart for $8 an hour currently and they receive the average SNAP/food stamp benefit of $133.85 for themselves. (source: http://feedingamerica.org/how-we-fig...realities.aspx)

$8.00 * 30 * 4.2 weeks = $1008.00 per month

Now let us say the minimum wage was raised to $10.

$10.00 * 30 * 4.2 = $1260.00

Wow! Look at that! A $252 raise a month

And their food stamp benefit was only about $133 so that means we can probably eliminate the food stamp benefit (get them off welfare) and they will still have a little bit left over. Win-win, right?

tony286 · 05-23-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

While I agree with you and personally would rather work two jobs to better myself them sit on assistance, the point I am trying to make is that wealthy companies, in the pursuit of profit, are paying employees less and giving them fewer benefits. These people aren't demanding more because they are able to subsidize their income with government assistance which in turn costs tax dollars and which thereby increases those business owners' taxes.It is a cycle that never ends and the business owners are helping to perpetrate.

If a company is not going to offer full time employment and health benefits and they are going to encourage their employees to get on government assistance they can't then complain when their employees do just that and cause their taxes to increase.

If welfare was done away with, or at least it was changed so that it was very difficult to get, people would either work more, get second jobs, or in many cases I think we would see protests and demands for higher pay that may or may not work. But these days it is easier to just get on the government teat than it is to get a second job or work to improve your situation and both parties, the lacy worker and the business owner are helping feed into this system.

yep and the unions would come back.

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