Sponsors - big names vs. amateur sites - GoFuckYourself.com

sickkittens · 03-08-2003, 08:42 PM

Just curious, what are your thought on promoting the big sites vs. individual amateur sites?

Which convert better? Which do you promote and why?

I'm guessing the majority of amateur sites pay less per signup.

Homer

PerfectionGirls · 03-08-2003, 08:46 PM

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Jake · 03-08-2003, 09:06 PM

If you are talking about a "real amateur" site where the girl is actually the personality of the site and interacts with her members through live cams shows, email, etc. I've found that as a rule the amateur site converts WAY better than the "big sites".

The "big sites" do usually pay far more on the front end than does a true amateur site. It has been my own personal experience however that a real amateur site retains members far longer than a typical porn "content site". So, I end up making
FAR more off the amateur site in the long run.

I think the key is finding an actual "amateur" site with a good affiliate prgram that pays 50-60% on sign-ups + recurring and making sure that it really is a true amateur site where the girl is involved with the members on a daily basis. That personal interaction is what keeps those guys as members for a long fucking time. My

PerfectionGirls · 03-08-2003, 09:19 PM

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I think the key is finding an actual "amateur" site with a good affiliate prgram that pays 50-60% on sign-ups + recurring and making sure that it really is a true amateur site where the girl is involved with the members on a daily basis. That personal interaction is what keeps those guys as members for a long fucking time.

Ok... well here are two programs wit REAL amatuer sites that fit the bill.

Perfection Girls Cash

Light Speed Cash

I have been using LS on a couple exits and I am 1:152 with them the last to pay periods.

We have real girls that interact with the members within the site. We ( Perfection Girls Cash )have an upsell program that can pay out as much as $60.00 per sign up, reccuring for life.

Let us show you how to make some serious cash of some true amateur sites.

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Far-L · 03-08-2003, 09:54 PM

At Homegrown, we enjoy the best of both worlds... we have personality plus way more content than a thousand amateurs could produce in a thousand lifetimes...

...and the juicy choice of payouts doesn't hurt either...

...but enough of that rhetoric...

personality is another way of saying hands on customer service coupled with something that you cannot find anywhere else... for example: a great resturaunt has "personality". It is that "x" factor that brings people back.

Many of the big paysites are now producing their own unique and exclusive content. That still does not mean they have personality. Conversely, there are many amateur sites that have personality but lack content. The site with personality is still going to hold the customer.

I have watched so many companies come and go. There is such a crazy amount of totally generic and dull content out there, and there is only a smattering of stuff that people really like or becomes cultish toward in their demand.

The companies i see thriving, from the old school video companies to the modern internet businesses, do so on the merit of thier personalities. Customer service, being unique, regularly feeding the demand of the fans is what grows success. Does not matter whether you are mega x megasite or Suzie Amateur site.

Work with the site that has personality and you will find a bag of gold nearby.

PerfectionGirls · 03-08-2003, 09:57 PM

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Work with the site that has personality and you will find a bag of gold nearby.

Very well said.... not just the line I quoted, but your entire post.

Wizzo · 03-09-2003, 01:42 AM

They're all about Making Bacon!

Pornkings · 03-09-2003, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by Wizzo
They're all about Making Bacon!

FYI I went to check out your program and I got a white page
when I tried to see this site http://rawsexvideo.com/main.html

you can't compare a big site to an amateur sites etc
And you can't compare programs

You need to try them all out to see what converts or makes you the most
First try the sites that sell you or lok for programs that give a deal the surfer can't pass up.
Like a buck a month trial

DyannaDoes · 03-09-2003, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by Wizzo
They're all about Making Bacon!

I told you I wanted those damn things scrambled!!!!

but back to the point of this post . . . bitch, bitch, bitch, about the little guys and meanwhile compare your BOTTOM line - you might be surprised

Rochard · 03-09-2003, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by charlie6763
If you are talking about a "real amateur" site where the girl is actually the personality of the site and interacts with her members through live cams shows, email, etc. I've found that as a rule the amateur site converts WAY better than the "big sites".

I disagree.

Some of our girls answer their own email and are really a part of their site. Taylor Little is a great example. She answers her own email and will be doing an on line journal telling her members about her day. She calls me daily asking if their is anything more she can do for her members......

Plus, being a "company" we offer a level of support that the average amateur can't. Support email gets answered at 2AM. And when a server goes down I get a phone call in the middle of the night and make sure it gets running again. With an amateur they won't know their site is down - And that pisses off members.

chodadog · 03-09-2003, 02:08 AM

I don't see why a big program can't have amateur sites where the girl is the personality of the site. I think Lightspeed Cash is a good example.

OzKaNoz · 03-09-2003, 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

I went to check out your program and I got a white page
when I tried to see this site http://rawsexvideo.com/main.html

PornKings
Here you go, try this URL instead.
http://ww2.rawsexvideo.com/

Oz

Pornkings · 03-09-2003, 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog
I don't see why a big program can't have amateur sites where the girl is the personality of the site. I think Lightspeed Cash is a good example.

We used to have many but they didn't retain better so we dropped them. Also the girls got burnt out and became a pain in the ass to deal with.

but we are adding Sunny Leone's sites very soon and she will have Live cams and chat etc. So it should do well since guys can talk to the Penthouse pet of the Year

Jakke PNG · 03-09-2003, 02:38 AM

depends on the site. I usually join the site (if it's a revshare) to see what the members area is all about. I joined a niche site last night, from a 'big' player.. it sucked so much ass I couldn't believe it. I think smaller niche sites are better from amateurs, who infact dig the niche they're running a site of... but I always, or almost always join the site to be sure.

DyannaDoes · 03-09-2003, 03:12 AM

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Originally posted by RocHard

I disagree.

Some of our girls answer their own email and are really a part of their site. Taylor Little is a great example. She answers her own email and will be doing an on line journal telling her members about her day. She calls me daily asking if their is anything more she can do for her members......

Plus, being a "company" we offer a level of support that the average amateur can't. Support email gets answered at 2AM. And when a server goes down I get a phone call in the middle of the night and make sure it gets running again. With an amateur they won't know their site is down - And that pisses off members.

Agree/disagree . . . it all depends on who is running things. My amateur site had support 24/7.

PerfectionGirls · 03-09-2003, 08:55 AM

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Plus, being a "company" we offer a level of support that the average amateur can't. Support email gets answered at 2AM. And when a server goes down I get a phone call in the middle of the night and make sure it gets running again. With an amateur they won't know their site is down - And that pisses off members.

Dont you love those 2am calls? Its a 24/7 job aint it Rochard?

Interaction is key.. Out girls answer there emails and do there daily diaries also. They girls are extremely excited about there sites and get all moist when they see how there interaction makes a huge difference.

gothweb · 03-09-2003, 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by charlie6763
I think the key is finding an actual "amateur" site with a good affiliate prgram that pays 50-60% on sign-ups + recurring and making sure that it really is a true amateur site where the girl is involved with the members on a daily basis. That personal interaction is what keeps those guys as members for a long fucking time. My

Lately, I've been trying to work on the "world-class features" part of running an affiliate program, so I don't really talk much about the "mom-and-pop" thing we've got going on. Our sites have been a very personal project for me *and* Vail since they started.

Our girls are quite involved in our sites. Especially in the case of GothicAmateur.com and GothicUndine.com, the members hear from the girls quite a bit. Undine, Bianca, Shadow Jen, and Vail are pretty active in email, and their online journals.

chodadog · 03-09-2003, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
but we are adding Sunny Leone's sites very soon and she will have Live cams and chat etc. So it should do well since guys can talk to the Penthouse pet of the Year

Now that sounds promising.

polish_aristocrat · 03-09-2003, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
but I always, or almost always join the site to be sure.

even if the sponsor pays per sign up ?

03-08-2003, 08:42 PM	#1
sickkittens I am a meat popsicle. Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,100	Sponsors - big names vs. amateur sites Just curious, what are your thought on promoting the big sites vs. individual amateur sites? Which convert better? Which do you promote and why? I'm guessing the majority of amateur sites pay less per signup. Homer

03-08-2003, 08:46 PM	#2
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	With our new upsell program you can make $60.00 recurring for life off our amateur sites. The new upsell program is rockin... If you want to get started promoting it... Sign up here. Perfection Girls Cash Send us just ten sign ups a week and you pocket $600.00 bones! Who said the little guys don't pay? Jeff __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-08-2003, 09:54 PM	#5
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	At Homegrown, we enjoy the best of both worlds... we have personality plus way more content than a thousand amateurs could produce in a thousand lifetimes... ...and the juicy choice of payouts doesn't hurt either... ...but enough of that rhetoric... personality is another way of saying hands on customer service coupled with something that you cannot find anywhere else... for example: a great resturaunt has "personality". It is that "x" factor that brings people back. Many of the big paysites are now producing their own unique and exclusive content. That still does not mean they have personality. Conversely, there are many amateur sites that have personality but lack content. The site with personality is still going to hold the customer. I have watched so many companies come and go. There is such a crazy amount of totally generic and dull content out there, and there is only a smattering of stuff that people really like or becomes cultish toward in their demand. The companies i see thriving, from the old school video companies to the modern internet businesses, do so on the merit of thier personalities. Customer service, being unique, regularly feeding the demand of the fans is what grows success. Does not matter whether you are mega x megasite or Suzie Amateur site. Work with the site that has personality and you will find a bag of gold nearby. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

03-09-2003, 01:42 AM	#7
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	They're all about Making Bacon! __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

03-09-2003, 02:38 AM	#14
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	depends on the site. I usually join the site (if it's a revshare) to see what the members area is all about. I joined a niche site last night, from a 'big' player.. it sucked so much ass I couldn't believe it. I think smaller niche sites are better from amateurs, who infact dig the niche they're running a site of... but I always, or almost always join the site to be sure. __________________ ..and I'm off.

03-08-2003, 09:06 PM	#3
Jake Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CO, US Posts: 3,056	If you are talking about a "real amateur" site where the girl is actually the personality of the site and interacts with her members through live cams shows, email, etc. I've found that as a rule the amateur site converts WAY better than the "big sites". The "big sites" do usually pay far more on the front end than does a true amateur site. It has been my own personal experience however that a real amateur site retains members far longer than a typical porn "content site". So, I end up making FAR more off the amateur site in the long run. I think the key is finding an actual "amateur" site with a good affiliate prgram that pays 50-60% on sign-ups + recurring and making sure that it really is a true amateur site where the girl is involved with the members on a daily basis. That personal interaction is what keeps those guys as members for a long fucking time. My

03-09-2003, 02:08 AM	#11
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	I don't see why a big program can't have amateur sites where the girl is the personality of the site. I think Lightspeed Cash is a good example.