biggest news story on the planet right now

[Grapesoda]

and no one even mentions it???

New fears about spread of deadly Ebola disease after plane scare
DAKAR, SENEGAL: No one knows for sure just how many people Patrick Sawyer came into contact with the day he boarded a flight in Liberia, had a stopover in Ghana, changed planes in Togo, and then arrived in Nigeria, where authorities say he died days later from Ebola, one of the deadliest diseases known to man.

Now health workers are scrambling to trace those who may have been exposed to Sawyer across West Africa, including flight attendants and fellow passengers.

Health experts say it is unlikely he could have infected others with the virus that can cause victims to bleed from the eyes, mouth and ears. Still, unsettling questions remain: How could a man whose sister recently died from Ebola manage to board a plane leaving the country? And worse: Could Ebola become the latest disease to be spread by international air travel?

Sawyer's death on Friday has led to tighter screening of airline passengers in West Africa, where an unprecedented outbreak that emerged in March has killed more than 670 people in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia. But some health authorities expressed little confidence in such precautions.

"The best thing would be if people did not travel when they were sick, but the problem is people won't say when they're sick. They will lie in order to travel, so it is doubtful travel recommendations would have a big impact," said Dr. David Heymann, professor of infectious diseases at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.

"The important thing is for countries to be prepared when they get patients infected with Ebola, that they are isolated, family members are told what to do and health workers take the right steps."

The World Health Organization is awaiting laboratory confirmation after Nigerian health authorities said Sawyer tested positive for Ebola, WHO spokesman Gregory Hartl said. The WHO has not recommended any travel restrictions since the outbreak came to light.

"We would have to consider any travel recommendations very carefully, but the best way to stop this outbreak is to put the necessary measures in place at the source of infection," Hartl said. Closing borders "might help, but it won't be exhaustive or foolproof."

The risk of travelers contracting Ebola is considered low because it requires direct contact with bodily fluids or secretions such as urine, blood, sweat or saliva, experts say. Ebola can't be spread like flu through casual contact or breathing in the same air.

Patients are contagious only once the disease has progressed to the point they show symptoms, according to the WHO. And the most vulnerable are health care workers and relatives who come in much closer contact with the sick.

Still, witnesses say Sawyer, a 40-year-old Liberian Finance Ministry employee en route to a conference in Nigeria, was vomiting and had diarrhea aboard at least one of his flights with some 50 other passengers aboard. Ebola can be contracted from traces of feces or vomit, experts say.

Sawyer was immediately quarantined upon arrival in Lagos - a city of 21 million people - and Nigerian authorities say his fellow travelers were advised of Ebola's symptoms and then were allowed to leave. The incubation period can be as long as 21 days, meaning anyone infected may not fall ill for several weeks.

Health officials rely on "contact tracing" - locating anyone who may have been exposed, and then anyone who may have come into contact with that person. That may prove impossible, given that other passengers journeyed on to dozens of other cities.

Patrick Sawyer had planned to visit his family in Minnesota next month to attend two of his three daughters' birthdays, his wife, Decontee Sawyer, told KSTP-TV in Minnesota.

"It's a global problem because Patrick could have easily come home with Ebola, easy," she said. The Associated Press left phone and email messages for her Monday.

International travel has made the spread of disease via airplanes almost routine. Outbreaks of measles, polio and cholera have been traced back to countries thousands of miles away. Even Ebola previously traveled the globe this way: During an outbreak in Ivory Coast in the 1990s, the virus infected a veterinarian who traveled to Switzerland, where the disease was snuffed out upon arrival and she ultimately survived, experts say.

Two American aid workers in Liberia have tested positive for the virus and are being treated there. U.S. health officials said Monday that the risk of the deadly germ spreading to the United States is remote.

The mere prospect of Ebola in Africa's most populous nation has Nigerians on edge.

In Nigeria's capital, Abuja, Alex Akinwale, a 35-year-old entrepreneur, said he is particularly concerned about taking the bus, which is the only affordable way to travel.

"It's actually making me very nervous. If I had my own car, I would be safer," he said. "The doctors are on strike, and that means they are not prepared for it. For now I'm trying to be very careful."

It's an unprecedented public health scenario: Since 1976, when the virus was first discovered, Ebola outbreaks were limited to remote corners of Congo and Uganda, far from urban centers, and stayed within the borders of a single country. This time, cases first emerged in Guinea, and before long hundreds of others were stricken in Liberia and Sierra Leone.

Those are some of the poorest countries in the world, with few doctors and nurses to treat sick patients let alone determine who is well enough to travel. In Sawyer's case, it appears nothing was done to question him until he fell sick on his second flight with Asky Airlines. An airline spokesman would not comment on what precautions were being taken in the aftermath of Sawyer's journey.

Liberian Assistant Health Minister Tolbert Nyenswah told The Associated Press last week that there had been no screening at Liberia's Monrovia airport. That changed quickly over the weekend, when President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf said a new policy on inspecting and testing all outgoing and incoming passengers will be strictly observed. She also announced that some borders were being closed and communities with large numbers of Ebola cases would be quarantined.

International travelers departing from the capitals of Sierra Leone and Guinea are also being checked for signs of fever, airport officials said. Buckets of chlorine are also on hand at Sierra Leone's airport in Freetown for disinfection, authorities said.

Still, detecting Ebola in departing passengers might be tricky, since its initial symptoms are similar to many other diseases, including malaria and typhoid fever.

"It will be very difficult now to contain this outbreak because it's spread," Heymann said. "The chance to stop it quickly was months ago before it crossed borders ... but this can still be stopped if there is good hospital infection control, contact tracing and collaboration between countries."

Nigerian authorities so far have identified 59 people who came into contact with Sawyer and have tested 20, said Lagos State Health Commissioner Jide Idris. Among them were officials from ECOWAS, a West African governing body, airline employees, health workers and the Nigerian ambassador to Liberia, he said. He said there have been no new cases of the disease.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/W...w/39237694.cms

[wehateporn]

Fortunately it would be fairly easy to contain in the West as it's not airborne

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Fortunately it would be fairly easy to contain in the West as it's not airborne

optimism, I like it.

[EonBlue]

I think this is of more concern and far closer to home:

Warrant issued for possible illegal immigrant with deadly strain of tuberculosis

Prosecutors with the San Joaquin County District Attorney?s office have said they are looking for 25 year old Eduardo Rosas Cruz, a transient who is known to have come from a part of Mexico that is known to be a possess a drug resistant strain of Tuberculosis. The disease is easily spread through the air whenever infected people cough or sneeze. Left untreated the disease can be deadly, however the drug resistant strains are even more deadlier.

According to prosecutors, Rosas was first diagnosed with the disease in March after he went to a hospital for a severe cough. He was instructed to remain in a motel room so a health care worker could bring him his medication and keep him away from the general public. However, Rosas has since disappeared.

[seeandsee]

they must bring down the world population somehow

[Rochard]

No mention on GFY, but I am paying attention. Ebola has a 10% survival rate - meaning, 90% of the people who get it die a horrible death. There is no cue.

I'm paying attention. I've been quietly stocking up on food. In the event we need to hunker down here in the house for two weeks, I'm ready.

I don't live in fear of the end of the world and all of that stuff, but it's just common sense to have extra supplies on hand at all time. Long term power outages, stores closing, floods... You never know when shit hits and I like to be prepared.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

I think this is of more concern and far closer to home:

Warrant issued for possible illegal immigrant with deadly strain of tuberculosis

TB has been spreading for some time in LA on the subways... all kinds of stuff coaming back do to the influx of unchecked immigrations from 3rd countries

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

No mention on GFY, but I am paying attention. Ebola has a 10% survival rate - meaning, 90% of the people who get it die a horrible death. There is no cue.

I'm paying attention. I've been quietly stocking up on food. In the event we need to hunker down here in the house for two weeks, I'm ready.

I don't live in fear of the end of the world and all of that stuff, but it's just common sense to have extra supplies on hand at all time. Long term power outages, stores closing, floods... You never know when shit hits and I like to be prepared.

good for you. thinking about picking up a little genny.. maybe a 3000

[Markul]

Maybe, just maybe they should disallow anyone from infected areas to travel w.o. being fucking tested.

[TeenCat]

the worse is, that before this american doctor got infected, nobody cared, it was nowhere in the news, but how many people died there already before we get informed because it touched western civilization ... respect to all those people who are trying hard and the best to help there and everywhere where its needed! biggest respect!

[TeenCat]

https://www.google.cz/search?q=india...&tbm=isch&sa=X

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

optimism, I like it.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

good for you. thinking about picking up a little genny.. maybe a 3000

Get one for the hell of it but keep this in mind. Sound carries, when the regular power is out things get real quiet. The sound of a generator means civilization/help to those unprepared or looking for something to take. Nothing draws unwanted attention like generator noise. Have one but rough it.


.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

I think this is of more concern and far closer to home:

Warrant issued for possible illegal immigrant with deadly strain of tuberculosis

We have been dealing with multi drug resistant TB in the west for decades...

For example:

During the past year around 3,500 Londoners were diagnosed with the disease, with boroughs like Newham and Ealing experiencing high rates of infection.

I didn't read the article so maybe there is more to it - Its sounds like scaremongering though.....

[arock10]

Glad Ebola will rescue us from ww3 nuclear winter

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Markul

Maybe, just maybe they should disallow anyone from infected areas to travel w.o. being fucking tested.

you're kidding right? might violate their civil rights...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

the worse is, that before this american doctor got infected, nobody cared, it was nowhere in the news, but how many people died there already before we get informed because it touched western civilization ... respect to all those people who are trying hard and the best to help there and everywhere where its needed! biggest respect!

it was on the news everyday because I've been watching since day 1 (not everyone watches TMZ)

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Get one for the hell of it but keep this in mind. Sound carries, when the regular power is out things get real quiet. The sound of a generator means civilization/help to those unprepared or looking for something to take. Nothing draws unwanted attention like generator noise. Have one but rough it.


.

good point...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by arock10

Glad Ebola will rescue us from ww3 nuclear winter

yes hopefully we will all die so republicans don't get voted into office and harasses gay people, and the 1% don't steal all the money

[onwebcam]

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

good for you. thinking about picking up a little genny.. maybe a 3000

I am not going that far... But I do have lots of sterno....

Originally Posted by TeenCat

the worse is, that before this american doctor got infected, nobody cared, it was nowhere in the news, but how many people died there already before we get informed because it touched western civilization ... respect to all those people who are trying hard and the best to help there and everywhere where its needed! biggest respect!

It has been in the news for weeks....

[CDSmith]

Those of us who know about such things have been quietly stocking up over recent months and years. Anyone who is mindful of having any sort of preparedness for whatever might come in the near or not-too-distant future is and should be ready to self-sustain for at least 6 months.

Key words being "at least".

If your water and power shuts off, if your local supermarket shelves are suddenly empty, and something like ebola is out there killing everyone, you're either going to be screwed like the rest or you're going to survive.

Which one will you be?

Of course you could just pick up a gun and be the guy that goes out and steals from the people who are prepared when you weren't. But the flaw in that plan is that you may very well get your theiving useless head blown off by someone who truly IS prepared. ha, won't that be fun? :D

[Magnetron]

Next time theking comes back from the wild, he'll be the last man on Earth.

This puts me in the mood to watch The Stand.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

gggaaahhhh .....

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Those of us who know about such things have been quietly stocking up over recent months and years. Anyone who is mindful of having any sort of preparedness for whatever might come in the near or not-too-distant future is and should be ready to self-sustain for at least 6 months.

Key words being "at least".

If your water and power shuts off, if your local supermarket shelves are suddenly empty, and something like ebola is out there killing everyone, you're either going to be screwed like the rest or you're going to survive.

Which one will you be?

Of course you could just pick up a gun and be the guy that goes out and steals from the people who are prepared when you weren't. But the flaw in that plan is that you may very well get your theiving useless head blown off by someone who truly IS prepared. ha, won't that be fun? :D

selling a bunch of powdered food at costco...

[dillonaire]

Unless it is on the Daily Show it isnt the biggest story in the world. Probably fake.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

optimism, I like it.

It really would not be that bad in the US.. It's only spread by bodily fluids and it doesn't have a long incubation period. We don't have open air meat markets in the US and we don't live with farm animal, nor do we wash our own dead. The reason this is a problem in these African nations is because of the sanitary conditions.

Most Western countries do not have these problems, hence Ebola is a third world epidemic unless it ever becomes air born..

[stoka]

scary shit... literally :X

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff

Unless it is on the Daily Show it isnt the biggest story in the world. Probably fake.

if it was on fox news it's fake for sure

[WDF]

Originally Posted by Markul

Maybe, just maybe they should disallow anyone from infected areas to travel w.o. being fucking tested.

That only works if everyone entering enters legally.

[baddog]

I have a supply of beer that should last a couple of months; see you guys on the other side.

[Matt 26z]

Ebola, AIDS, etc... are mother nature's way of thinning out (or even extincting) a population. Then along comes man from another population with his medicine to save the doomed population. This is a war that cannot be won.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Magnetron

Next time theking comes back from the wild, he'll be the last man on Earth.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by Rochard

No mention on GFY, but I am paying attention. Ebola has a 10% survival rate - meaning, 90% of the people who get it die a horrible death. There is no cue.

I'm paying attention. I've been quietly stocking up on food. In the event we need to hunker down here in the house for two weeks, I'm ready.

I don't live in fear of the end of the world and all of that stuff, but it's just common sense to have extra supplies on hand at all time. Long term power outages, stores closing, floods... You never know when shit hits and I like to be prepared.

Wow lol, yes you live in fear. How long are you supplied for?

[suesheboy]

Originally Posted by baddog

I have a supply of beer that should last a couple of months; see you guys on the other side.

You don't brew your own?

I have foods and supplies in NY and FL for 3 weeks.

Here in TN about 2 weeks worth with me, but I live a very deep wooded areas with 10 acres. Plenty of turkeys, rabbits, squirrels and birds and tons of Ammo.

For you preppers, airguns for small game is the best: very quiet, you can stock tons of ammo for only a few bucks.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

You don't brew your own?

No, I tried it and was not impressed with the ROI

http://craftbeerguy.com/homebrewing-an-everyday-ipa/

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

TB has been spreading for some time in LA on the subways... all kinds of stuff coaming back do to the influx of unchecked immigrations from 3rd countries

Grape, it has nothing to do with immigrants, and everything to do with idiots like Alicia Silverstone, Michelle Bachman, Jenny McCarthy and other mental midgets who tell people NOT to vaccinate. The amount of disinformation being spread around causing people not to get their kinds vaccinated is the root cause of the rise in infections of diseases like Measles, Flu, and even TB.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...?__federated=1

[imabro]

Originally Posted by **********

Grape, it has nothing to do with immigrants, and everything to do with idiots like Alicia Silverstone, Michelle Bachman, Jenny McCarthy and other mental midgets who tell people NOT to vaccinate. The amount of disinformation being spread around causing people not to get their kinds vaccinated is the root cause of the rise in infections of diseases like Measles, Flu, and even TB.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...?__federated=1

Idiot, does guy seem like a guy that has a clue who Alicia Silverstone, Michelle Bachman or Jenny McCarthy are much less is taking their advice? http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSto...ested-24758421

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Have one but rough it.


.

What do you mean?

[EngineCash]

Yeah, this is all true... Mankind has not found the cure for Ebola, and 90% of infected people die, so this really is a deadliest disease know to man... I hope they will make it all right in Africa...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by **********

Grape, it has nothing to do with immigrants,

Mark I've seen many 'unintelligent, uniformed post' from you over the past few years.. your might have you shit lined out about coding or whatever but you don't have a fucking clue about the USA and LA... AND you're making a complete ass out of yourself

[TeenCat]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

it was on the news everyday because I've been watching since day 1 (not everyone watches TMZ)

yes that is right, i excuse, i meant it wasnt on the page one, but on page eight and so ... at least online news here in my country i am watching ...

[john1975]

why isn't the news debating more on HOW those 2 American doctors (aides) got it ? They took the utmost of precautions, and probably had full body suits / goggles / multiple layers of gloves /and highest filtration face mask...

^ the part that's most disturbing...

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by **********

Grape, it has nothing to do with immigrants, and everything to do with idiots like Alicia Silverstone, Michelle Bachman, Jenny McCarthy and other mental midgets who tell people NOT to vaccinate. The amount of disinformation being spread around causing people not to get their kinds vaccinated is the root cause of the rise in infections of diseases like Measles, Flu, and even TB.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...?__federated=1

What do anti-vaccinators have to do with ebola and TB? There is no vaccine for ebola and while there is a vaccine for TB it is not part of the regular vaccination schedule.

It has everything to do with immigrants - sick immigrants, legal or otherwise, should not be allowed over the border. Period.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

What do anti-vaccinators have to do with ebola and TB? There is no vaccine for ebola and while there is a vaccine for TB it is not part of the regular vaccination schedule.

It has everything to do with immigrants - sick immigrants, legal or otherwise, should not be allowed over the border. Period.

the federal government chooses NOT to defend our boarders and sues states that DO try and defend the boarder.. .. fucking way out there isn't it?

[baddog]

boarders and borders are not the same thing

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

the federal government chooses NOT to defend our boarders and sues states that DO try and defend the boarder.. .. fucking way out there isn't it?

Don't worry - they are keeping you safe on the northern border and protecting you from a deadly influx of.....Kinder Eggs.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/illegal...tion-1.1213291

Two Seattle men say they spent more than two hours in a detention center at the Canadian border after U.S. border agents discovered illegal chocolate eggs in their car.

Brandon Loo and Christopher Sweeney told Seattle's KOMO-TV they decided to bring home some treats for friends and family during a recent trip to Vancouver. They bought Kinder Eggs ? chocolate eggs with a toy inside.

The two men say border guards searched their car and said the eggs are illegal in the United States because young children could choke on the small plastic toys. Importing them can lead to a potentially hefty fine.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by baddog

boarders and borders are not the same thing

spellcheck disagrees... hehehhehe

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Don't worry - they are keeping you safe on the northern border and protecting you from a deadly influx of.....Kinder Eggs.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/illegal...tion-1.1213291

now if they could keep out obnoxious pop singers

[sandman!]

people just get scared for no reason a few people dying is nothing.