Could the Jim Foley Video Be a Fake? - GoFuckYourself.com

wehateporn · 08-22-2014, 05:00 AM

What do you think?

Wicked 1 · 08-22-2014, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

What do you think?

I think some people are on some really good drugs to even imagine some of the shit they put online.

wehateporn · 08-22-2014, 05:16 AM

candyflip · 08-22-2014, 05:58 AM

Could it be? Sure. With digital filmmaking, anything is possible.

bronco67 · 08-22-2014, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Could it be? Sure. With digital filmmaking, anything is possible.

I'm not saying its fake...but they wouldn't need to employ any digital tricks because they faded to black and did a time lapse edit to the dead body/severed head. I don't understand why a group as brutal as ISIS didn't show the actual act of the knife going through his neck. They don't seem like the type to leave things to the intended audiences' imaginations.

Also, you have to think about motive. Why would ISIS need to fake his death?

tony286 · 08-22-2014, 06:21 AM

There is no point to it being fake. They wanted 135 million they didnt get it so they killed him. Its sad but you want to work in war zones shit happens. We should pull out of the whole middle east and spent that money for energy independence but that will never happen.

Bladewire · 08-22-2014, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286

TWe should pull out of the whole middle east and spent that money for energy independence

I like the way you think. With even Republicans like Boner saying we can be energy independent within 5 years it's possible there is motivation enough in our country to do this

2MuchMark · 08-22-2014, 07:20 AM

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I like the way you think. With even Republicans like Boner saying we can be energy independent within 5 years it's possible there is motivation enough in our country to do this

John Boehner is a fucking twat. When he says Energy, he means oil and natural gas only, no renewable energy. Even worse, he wants to remove ALL regulation around it so companies can pollute even more. This fucking asshat calls regulations "Job Killers". I can't wait until this miserable old do-nothing bastard is replaced for the good of the world, not just the US.

Sly · 08-22-2014, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

John Boehner is a fucking twat. When he says Energy, he means oil and natural gas only, no renewable energy. Even worse, he wants to remove ALL regulation around it so companies can pollute even more. This fucking asshat calls regulations "Job Killers". I can't wait until this miserable old do-nothing bastard is replaced for the good of the world, not just the US.

So much hate from a Canadian is shocking. I thought you guys were nice?

CamTraffic · 08-22-2014, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

John Boehner is a fucking twat. When he says Energy, he means oil and natural gas only, no renewable energy. Even worse, he wants to remove ALL regulation around it so companies can pollute even more. This fucking asshat calls regulations "Job Killers". I can't wait until this miserable old do-nothing bastard is replaced for the good of the world, not just the US.

There he goes again

tony286 · 08-22-2014, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

John Boehner is a fucking twat. When he says Energy, he means oil and natural gas only, no renewable energy. Even worse, he wants to remove ALL regulation around it so companies can pollute even more. This fucking asshat calls regulations "Job Killers". I can't wait until this miserable old do-nothing bastard is replaced for the good of the world, not just the US.

I agree with you. This old old old technology owns the gov, its nuts when you thing about it.

Bladewire · 08-22-2014, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

When he says Energy, he means oil and natural gas only, no renewable energy. Even worse, he wants to remove ALL regulation around it so companies can pollute even more. This fucking asshat calls regulations "Job Killers".

Oh! My bad, stupidly assumed the better lol. No coffee when I posted that

NewNick · 08-22-2014, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

What do you think?

Of course it could.

I mean the moon landings, 911, Jfk, Elvis, the Holocaust, all fake.

What makes you think this is real ?

wehateporn · 08-22-2014, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Could it be? Sure. With digital filmmaking, anything is possible.

From a poster in a different conspiracy forum

"1. The camera fades out before beheading.

2. Jim Foley seems ultra calm and is allowed to talk about freedoms before being brutally beheaded?

3. That knife is too small to behead someone.

4. Murderer has educated sounding English accent.

5. Why would ISIS use special effects?

6. After they fade out they show head on top of body.

7. The knife slices back and forth 7 times before the fade out. No blood. No spraying. It's also extremely odd they fade to black. Why the hell would they do that? After hitting the carotid artery blood should have been spraying for a good couple of heart pumps."

bronco67 · 08-22-2014, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

From a poster in a different conspiracy forum

"1. The camera fades out before beheading.

2. Jim Foley seems ultra calm and is allowed to talk about freedoms before being brutally beheaded?

3. That knife is too small to behead someone.

4. Murderer has educated sounding English accent.

5. Why would ISIS use special effects?

6. After they fade out they show head on top of body.

7. The knife slices back and forth 7 times before the fade out. No blood. No spraying. It's also extremely odd they fade to black. Why the hell would they do that? After hitting the carotid artery blood should have been spraying for a good couple of heart pumps."

I think Foley was a brave guy who knew the implications of what could happen in his profession. From the interviews I've seen, he doesn't seem like he would be a groveling little bitch.

PornDiscounts-V · 08-22-2014, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

I'm not saying its fake...but they wouldn't need to employ any digital tricks because they faded to black and did a time lapse edit to the dead body/severed head. I don't understand why a group as brutal as ISIS didn't show the actual act of the knife going through his neck. They don't seem like the type to leave things to the intended audiences' imaginations.

Also, you have to think about motive. Why would ISIS need to fake his death?

Well, if it was face it wouldn't be ISIS faking his death. It would be some British agents.

As for the time lapse and fade to black. You saw an edited version. The original has the knife wielding guy cutting through his neck the entire way around and popping his spine apart. Not fading to black and blood spurting out. Gagging on his blood trying to breath...

wehateporn · 08-22-2014, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv

Well, if it was face it wouldn't be ISIS faking his death. It would be some British agents.

Agreed

wehateporn · 08-22-2014, 08:21 AM

From some other conspiracy place

"1) Zero fear and zero emotion on the part of the victim and the aggressor. He doesn't look or sound like he's about to get a knife zigzagging through his esophagus. When he "blames" his brother, there's zero emotion. No way anyone would be able to just read those lines so casually. At 3:00, when he says "I died that day John", with the pauses and everything... he sounds more like an actor trying hard to persuade the viewer rather than someone who is speaking their last words to their family. Watch it and think about it. And the british gentleman terrorist is coming across like they're on the 7th take of this video. No allah akbar. No highly charged vocal timber, which is 100% the norm in all other beheadings ive seen since Nick Berg.

2) Incredible sound engineering: Both the victim and the gentleman terrorist are miked, and the sound is really well produced. This is professional audio engineering. No other video out of syria and iraq comes near the video/audio quality of this vid. And there are a LOT of videos coming out of Syria and Iraq.

3) No other terrorists around? If there were others around, as is ALWAYS the case in beheading videos, they would be all be shouting "Allahu Akbar" the SECOND the knife touched the throat. Notice the dead silence, which to me implies that they're alone, which to me implies that there is no fucking way he wouldn't fight the gentleman terrorist with small knife. (small by beheading standards).

3) Where's the blood? Not only is there no blood after 6 or 7 saws against the neck when blood almost ALWAYS gushes immediately after 1-2 saws. Also, in the final shot, the blood on the ground is a mere trickle compared to the giant 3-foot in diameter pool of blood almost ALWAYS visible around the gaping neckwound. Another thing: At the very end, when the gentleman terrorist is showing off the next victim, his hands are perfectly clean, like he just got back from a manicure. No blood from the beheading he presumably just performed.

5) They leave out the best part??? The most terrifying part of a beheading video is the part completely left out of this video. I know why. Because it's also the hardest part to fake. And this video is 100% fake. Fake fake fake. And, in comparison to the many dozens of videos Ive seen since Nick Berg, is wildly different from all of them.

So what happened to James Foley? First of all, there is no more James Foley. There is one of three possible scenarios:

1) He has joined the deep ranks of the CIA. Black Ops. Men In Black kinda shit. Like Tommy Lee Jones sitting Will Smith down on a park bench and telling him that he's going to disappear. No more family or friends or anything. He's been reporting from the middle east for years and has been kidnapped before. He probably knows a lot about them. So the CIA made him an offer. First make this video so we can go back and blow Iraq up again, but we need you so you're life is over.

2) Same scenario as #1 but with Mossad.

3) He's become one of them. He's been embedded there so long, and has spent enough time with them for him to hate the US, and feel sympathy for his captors. And his captors know that he can help them. So they're keeping him alive, but "killing him off" with this fake propoganda vid.

Or maybe it's something else. But I'll tell you this for sure: his head is firmly attached to his body. No doubts whatsoever."

wehateporn · 08-22-2014, 04:49 PM

seeandsee · 08-22-2014, 05:15 PM

it could be anything...

babeterminal · 08-22-2014, 05:57 PM

its not like the old ones 10 years ago in a dingy room with weird music playing and using blunt knifes

i was on msn 10 years ago when someone i didnt know sent me a link to view the beheading of the irish guy who was kidnapped i didnt really want to view it but i did it turned out to be a korean reporter and i swore i would never view another one which i didnt but while having the local news on they said"anyone searching or viewing the Jim Foley Video could be breaking the law and prosecuted" this got my back up so i went to the old faithful altavista which you could find anything on but its been blocked and goes to yahoo but i found the video on liveleaks and it does looked staged to me especially with the fucked up english speaking jhad

bronco67 · 08-22-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv

Well, if it was face it wouldn't be ISIS faking his death. It would be some British agents.

As for the time lapse and fade to black. You saw an edited version. The original has the knife wielding guy cutting through his neck the entire way around and popping his spine apart. Not fading to black and blood spurting out. Gagging on his blood trying to breath...

I assumed that was the real version, because Liveleak had a warning before watching it. I thought it would be pretty bad if they're warning us.

Matt 26z · 08-22-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by babeterminal

they said"anyone searching or viewing the Jim Foley Video could be breaking the law and prosecuted"

Your local news likely got viewing confused with hosting.

mikesouth · 08-22-2014, 07:42 PM

I havent watched it nor will I I would assume he knew the risks in what he was doing specially considering he was taken hostage in Libya prior.

all that said if it was faked it wouldnt be the first black flag op this country has used, nor would I expect it to be the last.

NEW XTC · 08-22-2014, 07:53 PM

ah what it must be like to be Wehateporn...must be like having rabid squirrels running around in your brain.

noshit · 08-22-2014, 08:10 PM

Well... Duh! Of course it's staged.

and BTW:
Nobody with the name 'Michael Brown' died in Ferguson, MO.
Moreover, his 'Parents' are not even remotely related.

Ferguson, Missouri... Fear Us Son, Misery. They are playing games with you.

Gator · 08-22-2014, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv

Well, if it was face it wouldn't be ISIS faking his death. It would be some British agents.

As for the time lapse and fade to black. You saw an edited version. The original has the knife wielding guy cutting through his neck the entire way around and popping his spine apart. Not fading to black and blood spurting out. Gagging on his blood trying to breath...

Do you have an opinion why the video has been edited?

Gator · 08-22-2014, 10:52 PM

Or proof. That is just as good.

Aka_Bluey · 08-23-2014, 01:21 AM

Was he cia?

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wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	From some other conspiracy place "1) Zero fear and zero emotion on the part of the victim and the aggressor. He doesn't look or sound like he's about to get a knife zigzagging through his esophagus. When he "blames" his brother, there's zero emotion. No way anyone would be able to just read those lines so casually. At 3:00, when he says "I died that day John", with the pauses and everything... he sounds more like an actor trying hard to persuade the viewer rather than someone who is speaking their last words to their family. Watch it and think about it. And the british gentleman terrorist is coming across like they're on the 7th take of this video. No allah akbar. No highly charged vocal timber, which is 100% the norm in all other beheadings ive seen since Nick Berg. 2) Incredible sound engineering: Both the victim and the gentleman terrorist are miked, and the sound is really well produced. This is professional audio engineering. No other video out of syria and iraq comes near the video/audio quality of this vid. And there are a LOT of videos coming out of Syria and Iraq. 3) No other terrorists around? If there were others around, as is ALWAYS the case in beheading videos, they would be all be shouting "Allahu Akbar" the SECOND the knife touched the throat. Notice the dead silence, which to me implies that they're alone, which to me implies that there is no fucking way he wouldn't fight the gentleman terrorist with small knife. (small by beheading standards). 3) Where's the blood? Not only is there no blood after 6 or 7 saws against the neck when blood almost ALWAYS gushes immediately after 1-2 saws. Also, in the final shot, the blood on the ground is a mere trickle compared to the giant 3-foot in diameter pool of blood almost ALWAYS visible around the gaping neckwound. Another thing: At the very end, when the gentleman terrorist is showing off the next victim, his hands are perfectly clean, like he just got back from a manicure. No blood from the beheading he presumably just performed. 5) They leave out the best part??? The most terrifying part of a beheading video is the part completely left out of this video. I know why. Because it's also the hardest part to fake. And this video is 100% fake. Fake fake fake. And, in comparison to the many dozens of videos Ive seen since Nick Berg, is wildly different from all of them. So what happened to James Foley? First of all, there is no more James Foley. There is one of three possible scenarios: 1) He has joined the deep ranks of the CIA. Black Ops. Men In Black kinda shit. Like Tommy Lee Jones sitting Will Smith down on a park bench and telling him that he's going to disappear. No more family or friends or anything. He's been reporting from the middle east for years and has been kidnapped before. He probably knows a lot about them. So the CIA made him an offer. First make this video so we can go back and blow Iraq up again, but we need you so you're life is over. 2) Same scenario as #1 but with Mossad. 3) He's become one of them. He's been embedded there so long, and has spent enough time with them for him to hate the US, and feel sympathy for his captors. And his captors know that he can help them. So they're keeping him alive, but "killing him off" with this fake propoganda vid. Or maybe it's something else. But I'll tell you this for sure: his head is firmly attached to his body. No doubts whatsoever." __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	There is no point to it being fake. They wanted 135 million they didnt get it so they killed him. Its sad but you want to work in war zones shit happens. We should pull out of the whole middle east and spent that money for energy independence but that will never happen.

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babeterminal Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: tits Posts: 2,751	its not like the old ones 10 years ago in a dingy room with weird music playing and using blunt knifes i was on msn 10 years ago when someone i didnt know sent me a link to view the beheading of the irish guy who was kidnapped i didnt really want to view it but i did it turned out to be a korean reporter and i swore i would never view another one which i didnt but while having the local news on they said"anyone searching or viewing the Jim Foley Video could be breaking the law and prosecuted" this got my back up so i went to the old faithful altavista which you could find anything on but its been blocked and goes to yahoo but i found the video on liveleaks and it does looked staged to me especially with the fucked up english speaking jhad

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,346	I havent watched it nor will I I would assume he knew the risks in what he was doing specially considering he was taken hostage in Libya prior. all that said if it was faked it wouldnt be the first black flag op this country has used, nor would I expect it to be the last. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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noshit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 1,582	Well... Duh! Of course it's staged. and BTW: Nobody with the name 'Michael Brown' died in Ferguson, MO. Moreover, his 'Parents' are not even remotely related. Ferguson, Missouri... Fear Us Son, Misery. They are playing games with you.

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