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Old 08-14-2014, 12:54 AM   #1
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A demonstration, tear gas and arrests: Photos from the protests in Ferguson























What touched off the outcry near St. Louis?
Michael Brown, an unarmed black 18-year-old who was about to begin college, was shot multiple times and killed Saturday afternoon in a confrontation with a police officer in Ferguson, Mo., a St. Louis suburb.

What do police say happened?
According to St. Louis County?s police chief: Brown was walking with a friend in the middle of the street when a Ferguson police officer tried to exit his vehicle. Brown pushed the officer back into the police car, then entered the car, and a struggle ensued over the officer?s weapon. A shot was fired inside the car. The officer and Brown then exited the vehicle, and the fatal shooting occurred.

What do witnesses say happened?
Dorian Johnson, a friend of Brown?s, told Fox 2 that he and Brown were walking in the street when the police car pulled up. The officer said to "get the eff onto the sidewalk," he recounted. Johnson said the officer reached out of the car window and grabbed Brown around the neck.
Another witness, Piaget Crenshaw, said she saw police chase Brown. ?He ran for his life,? she said. ?They shot him and he fell. He put his arms up to let them know that he was compliant and he was unarmed, and they shot him twice more and he fell to the ground and died."
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Why does american police have what looks like military equipment and vehicles?
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i was going to say the samething...that looks more like military not police
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That's what several soldiers are saying "We used to roll into warzones with less gear"
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Why does american police have what looks like military equipment and vehicles?
Because everyone is allowed to carry guns and they are trained like cops (= guns scare them) and not like soldiers.

Or that would be my guess.
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I originally thought the police presence was over bearing. They had the one night of rioting, and then the following night(s) it seemed to me the police were tossing in tear gas just for kicks.

Then last night they rioted again, this time attacking the store the kid robbed. Well that's just fucking brilliant - the store owner did NOTHING wrong, and now he's going to be out of business for months. (I did never did understand the concept of looting a local store in your own community.)

I've lost complete respect for the community there. This kid committed a felony, assaulted a police officer, and put the police officer in a potentially life threatening situation. Now the community is looting it's own local businesses.

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Why does american police have what looks like military equipment and vehicles?
The US military gives away or sells it's vehicles at extreme discount to get rid of them, and the local police take them for situations like these. It looks like over kill until you remember us Americans can legally own the same assault rifles our military uses.

Also, most likely these vehicles are not owned by the local police department, but instead on loan from a larger city. A few years back we had a propane train tank fire and most of our town was evacuated, and local police and firemen used such vehicles near the site of the fire to protect them from any potential explosions.
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He murdered the kid, they have a big problem.
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It looks like over kill until you remember us Americans can legally own the same assault rifles our military uses.
What? Is this something new? lol I'll buy 2 then! jk of course, it's not true at all.
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Does the guy on the far right have a paintball gun? There's a CO2 canister on top of his gun.

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All these cops are carrying the most idiotic gear.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/red...-ferguson-0814
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Innocent? I don't think so.. Looks like the same guy to me..

Was the ‘Innocent Man’ Shot By Ferguson Police the Same Man Who Robbed This Store Minutes Earlier?
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i was going to say the samething...that looks more like military not police
When you have military gear, you have a military mindset. The military's job is to go into places and kill(for the most part). That's not what police are supposed to be doing.
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Please use the proper term when referring to those dickless "cops".

It should be "Pigs" - Thank you
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When someone clearly dies as a result of excessive force by a cop, it?s grounds for outrage.



Police say video frame grabs from a security camera show Michael Brown, center, during a robbery.
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Armored police vehicles are used for many types of applications. High risk warrants to riots aka unlawful assemblies. They are usually given as grants. It's not a dick measuring contest but something for first responders to have in situations where there is an active shooter etc..
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When you have military gear, you have a military mindset. The military's job is to go into places and kill(for the most part). That's not what police are supposed to be doing.
Thankfully at least one person gets it.

Police = Protect & Serve
Military = destroy the enemy

Good article here printed in that leftist rag The Wall Street Journal. And it was written a year ago - quite prescient.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...08040780519904
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It looks like over kill until you remember us Americans can legally own the same assault rifles our military uses.
A study done in 1991 by the libertarian-leaning Independence Institute found that less than one-eighth of 1% of homicides in the U.S. were committed with a military-grade weapon. Subsequent studies by the Justice Department in 1995 and the National Institute for Justice in 2004 came to similar conclusions: The overwhelming majority of serious crimes are committed with handguns, and not particularly powerful ones.

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Armored police vehicles are used for many types of applications. High risk warrants to riots aka unlawful assemblies. They are usually given as grants. It's not a dick measuring contest but something for first responders to have in situations where there is an active shooter etc..
According to the Center for Investigative Reporting, the Department of Homeland Security has handed out $35 billion in grants since its creation in 2002, with much of the money going to purchase military gear such as armored personnel carriers. In 2011 alone, a Pentagon program for bolstering the capabilities of local law enforcement gave away $500 million of equipment, an all-time high.

The past decade also has seen an alarming degree of mission creep for U.S. SWAT teams. When the craze for poker kicked into high gear, a number of police departments responded by deploying SWAT teams to raid games in garages, basements and VFW halls where illegal gambling was suspected. According to news reports and conversations with poker organizations, there have been dozens of these raids, in cities such as Baltimore, Charleston, S.C., and Dallas. - WSJ, Radley Balko, August 7, 2013
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Wonderful.... Now we just have black people shooting black people there for no reason....

I've never understood this - why riot? All you are doing is damaging your own community. If I had a business that was destroyed by a riot, I would never open up shop in that town again.
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We're in complete agreement here.
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Why does american police have what looks like military equipment and vehicles?
Get used to it!!! The citizens of the U.S. ain't doing nothing about it, it's only gonna get worse.
Dress COPS like badasses and they'll act like badasses...... EVERY TIME. need to dress police like police with non-threatening colors and colors that make police calm the fuck down..
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When you have military gear, you have a military mindset. The military's job is to go into places and kill(for the most part). That's not what police are supposed to be doing.
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Wonderful.... Now we just have black people shooting black people there for no reason....

I've never understood this - why riot? All you are doing is damaging your own community. If I had a business that was destroyed by a riot, I would never open up shop in that town again.
Anger.


Why beat the shit out of your exgf and try to run when your face is all over the news already for beating the shit out of people for a living?


Anger.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anger
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Ferguson shop owner showed up with two assault rifles after people began looting his store.

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National Guard called out in Ferguson.
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What? Is this something new? lol I'll buy 2 then! jk of course, it's not true at all.
I legally own three assault rifles, so yeah, it's very true.
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Anger.


Why beat the shit out of your exgf and try to run when your face is all over the news already for beating the shit out of people for a living?


Anger.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anger
I don't have any anger issues at all. I'm not one of these little jack offs who needs to prove their manhood by punching a hole in the wall every time someone dings my car door. That's just childish.

I just don't understand of this.... Great, an eighteen year old man who committed multiple felonies in his life was just killed by the police. This sad and tragic on multiple levels. I understand their need to protest. But I don't understand the rioting. They are angry at the police department, not local businesses.

How does breaking into the local gas station, fast food restaurant, and convenience store and looting them fix anything? I've never understood looting. "I'm mad, so let me fuck up someone else's day". That makes no sense at all.
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I originally thought the police presence was over bearing. They had the one night of rioting, and then the following night(s) it seemed to me the police were tossing in tear gas just for kicks.

Then last night they rioted again, this time attacking the store the kid robbed. Well that's just fucking brilliant - the store owner did NOTHING wrong, and now he's going to be out of business for months. (I did never did understand the concept of looting a local store in your own community.)

I've lost complete respect for the community there. This kid committed a felony, assaulted a police officer, and put the police officer in a potentially life threatening situation. Now the community is looting it's own local businesses.



The US military gives away or sells it's vehicles at extreme discount to get rid of them, and the local police take them for situations like these. It looks like over kill until you remember us Americans can legally own the same assault rifles our military uses.

Also, most likely these vehicles are not owned by the local police department, but instead on loan from a larger city. A few years back we had a propane train tank fire and most of our town was evacuated, and local police and firemen used such vehicles near the site of the fire to protect them from any potential explosions.
Female friend that lives there says, most of the people doing the riots are from the City (east st. louis) and just there to cause problems...
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I don't have any anger issues at all. I'm not one of these little jack offs who needs to prove their manhood by punching a hole in the wall every time someone dings my car door. That's just childish.

I just don't understand of this.... Great, an eighteen year old man who committed multiple felonies in his life was just killed by the police. This sad and tragic on multiple levels. I understand their need to protest. But I don't understand the rioting. They are angry at the police department, not local businesses.

How does breaking into the local gas station, fast food restaurant, and convenience store and looting them fix anything? I've never understood looting. "I'm mad, so let me fuck up someone else's day". That makes no sense at all.
Exactly... Last night on the ferguson police page it said the Mcdonalds and papa johns places were being over run and the employees were hiding in the back calling 911...

Time for the People to take back their businesses and homes.
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Does the guy on the far right have a paintball gun? There's a CO2 canister on top of his gun.
It shoots pepper balls. Probably best they dont give these clowns and live ammo
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I don't have any anger issues at all. I'm not one of these little jack offs who needs to prove their manhood by punching a hole in the wall every time someone dings my car door. That's just childish.

I just don't understand of this.... Great, an eighteen year old man who committed multiple felonies in his life was just killed by the police. This sad and tragic on multiple levels. I understand their need to protest. But I don't understand the rioting. They are angry at the police department, not local businesses.

How does breaking into the local gas station, fast food restaurant, and convenience store and looting them fix anything? I've never understood looting. "I'm mad, so let me fuck up someone else's day". That makes no sense at all.

The riot is not about one person getting shot, that's just your personal analysis of it.

It's about a pattern of deaths in recent years that only got jokes and insults for justice.
Anger is something that can build over time.
This riot is about a system, not an incident.

But you will not acknowledge the "system problem"; therefore you actually refuse to understand what you claim that you can't understand.

Now that I have just told you what it is, I'll just watch you not understand it again.
And that's why violence works, because you will do what is needed to stop the violence even if you don't understand it.

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shit just went from bad to worse:

Ferguson Protestors Storm Governor’s Office! Feds Seize Control!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...d-in-ferguson/



also seems the protestors don't want any part of looting:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...?utm_hp_ref=tw

and are now organizing posts to protect businesses.
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Man those pics look crazy! Has the world or just Ferguson just gone mad!!!
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Does the guy on the far right have a paintball gun? There's a CO2 canister on top of his gun.

Not sure, but it looks like a paint ball gun and that's not the CO2, it's where the ammo goes, what he is using for ammo makes a difference, now they shoot tear gas paint balls. They hit you and gas you at the same time, proven to be very effective in crowds.

They just crank up the power output to about 400fps and they sting too. Yu can shoot these out of any paintball gun. I have one that's got a full auto setting!
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It looked like a war zone on the news last night...

Anyone think it's possible martial law could be coming in Ferguson? I don't think this is going to stop unless heads start getting cracked.

I know the Nat Guard is there now, but is this a true martial law situation yet?
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:32 PM   #39
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90yr old Holocaust survivor Hedy Epstein was arrested in St. Louis for speaking out against police brutality.
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:45 PM   #41
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Not sure, but it looks like a paint ball gun and that's not the CO2, it's where the ammo goes, what he is using for ammo makes a difference, now they shoot tear gas paint balls. They hit you and gas you at the same time, proven to be very effective in crowds.

They just crank up the power output to about 400fps and they sting too. Yu can shoot these out of any paintball gun. I have one that's got a full auto setting!
I mixed the ammo container with the CO2, you're right, it looks just like a paintball gun. Getting hit with one of those is torture enough. Adding pepper ball ammo is just being a dick. It's a lot better than a 12 gauge slug in the chest though.
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:48 PM   #42
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Old 08-19-2014, 01:47 PM   #43
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I legally own three assault rifles, so yeah, it's very true.
I am pretty sure you have the civilian models like the AR-15 that are not capable of automatic fire, or else you spent a pretty penny and did a shit ton of paperwork.

I have 3 "military assault rifles" too, but none are capable of automatic fire and they haven't been used by any military for decades.
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:06 PM   #44
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The riot is not about one person getting shot, that's just your personal analysis of it.

It's about a pattern of deaths in recent years that only got jokes and insults for justice.
Anger is something that can build over time.
This riot is about a system, not an incident.

But you will not acknowledge the "system problem"; therefore you actually refuse to understand what you claim that you can't understand.

Now that I have just told you what it is, I'll just watch you not understand it again.
And that's why violence works, because you will do what is needed to stop the violence even if you don't understand it.

This is about one person in Missouri being shot. If it was anything more than one person in Missouri being shot, they would be rioting every day in Chicago.
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I have 3 "military assault rifles" too, but none are capable of automatic fire and they haven't been used by any military for decades.
The M4 and the AR15 all came from... The M16, which is what I used in the military twenty-five years ago... So yes, they have all been used by the military for decades.
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Protests continued in Ferguson.





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This is about one person in Missouri being shot. If it was anything more than one person in Missouri being shot, they would be rioting every day in Chicago.
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Protests continued in Ferguson.

They'll yell about 1 criminal getting his due yet come Friday night at the club, they'll be shooting at each other....
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there are no military vehicles in those photos, Ar15's are not military equipment...anyone can buy those

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Why does american police have what looks like military equipment and vehicles?
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LIVE: Watch as protests continue in Ferguson.



Tear gas is a chemical weapon that's banned in combat, but is being used on the streets of Ferguson.
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