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Old 09-05-2014, 07:25 AM   #1
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I have no words for such barbarity.
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she's having a giraffe...
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is it disgusting to kill a bug and if no, why ?
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Hunting giraffes in Africa is legal and costs between $10,000 - 20,000 USD to shoot one bull. In one of the poorest countries in the world, money talks.
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She's doing cam shows with that giraffe ?!?
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is it disgusting to kill a bug and if no, why ?
Personally I try not to kill any living thing, I put spiders outside, I'll avoid swatting a fly by brushing it off. I understand other people may have a different moral compass.
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I know a guy from Kenya. I spoke with him about this just the other day. He told me that it's true and the animals and their habitat are being destroyed. Meanwhile...
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I see nothing barbaric in this. At least based on evidence.
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is it disgusting to kill a bug and if no, why ?
I'm not against hunting, but that is a weak comparison. There is absolutely no shortage of bugs, the ones we see every day.
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I'd to would pay a licence fee to kill that bitch if it could help save starving children...
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Man, not another one! IMO, I can't see any logical reason to kill a giraffe.
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why killing this animal does his meat taste so good ??
strange.
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I'm not against hunting, but that is a weak comparison. There is absolutely no shortage of bugs, the ones we see every day.
Is there shortage of giraffes? It seems to be "least concern".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giraffe
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I'm not against hunting, but that is a weak comparison. There is absolutely no shortage of bugs, the ones we see every day.
Adultking is consistent, but you are not. You are just trying to induce a hierarchy in the price of life. Why should this world be with giraffes and not with dinosaurs ?
Why should this world be full of human and not full of ants (for example).

You have an idea of what should be the world and you push it, nothing more...
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why killing this animal does his meat taste so good ??
strange.
Why not (this animal)? Why turkey, why deer, why ducks, why chicken, why pigs, why cows, why eggs. Or why potatoes?

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Personally I try not to kill any living thing, I put spiders outside, I'll avoid swatting a fly by brushing it off. I understand other people may have a different moral compass.
We are the same way in my house - if you are going to eat it or something, that's one thing - but killing for sport is just sick and twisted in my opinion - people with that frame of mind worry me!!
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I'll bet you it makes an awesome rug
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Bugs are the largest biomass on the planet aren't they? When giraffes take the top spot, lets all go stomp a few into the tundra over a few beers.
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We are the same way in my house - if you are going to eat it or something, that's one thing - but killing for sport is just sick and twisted in my opinion - people with that frame of mind worry me!!
I think he was hunting for sport. Killing for sport is like going in chicken house and starting killing.

Although we don't know did she eat it or not. But nevertheless, I don't think it was pure necessity, so it was optional (like pretty much most things in our lives).
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Bugs are the largest biomass on the planet aren't they? When giraffes take the top spot, lets all go stomp a few into the tundra over a few beers.
What does the biomass have to do with this? There were much passenger pigeons as well, but American folks managed to get it extinct.

Sustainable hunting is the key, not the overal biomass. Not to speak of that if we would kill for example 1/3 of the biomass of the bugs (still pretty much left), we would be kinda fucked including the other fauna and flora.
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We can't be hypocrite and have such reaction for a girafe and not any other animal, especially if the same person eats meat.
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Adultking is consistent, but you are not. You are just trying to induce a hierarchy in the price of life. Why should this world be with giraffes and not with dinosaurs ?
Why should this world be full of human and not full of ants (for example).

You have an idea of what should be the world and you push it, nothing more...

So in your world stepping on an ant is the same as killing your wife?
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So in your world stepping on an ant is the same as killing your wife?
check your local law
Yeah you can kill my wife, at least as long as i don't have one...

Also my point is that there is an ideology behind this...

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We can't be hypocrite and have such reaction for a girafe and not any other animal, especially if the same person eats.
Nice said, but I fixed that a little bit.
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If it were only that easy ???.
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What does the biomass have to do with this? There were much passenger pigeons as well, but American folks managed to get it extinct.

Sustainable hunting is the key, not the overal biomass. Not to speak of that if we would kill for example 1/3 of the biomass of the bugs (still pretty much left), we would be kinda fucked including the other fauna and flora.

I regularly challenge vegetarians to explain why they have no emotions taking the life of a healthy carrot but cry if a lamb is slaughtered. Both were raised for human consumption and would likely not exist if NOT for the human farmer raising them.

But unconcernedly stomping on a bug compared to shooting a giraffe for sport is not a good comparison. I'll compare them like that when they have similar population numbers. It's blood sport in exchange for money at issue, isn't it? I think that they can find a better way to make 10,000 bucks.
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Yeah you can kill my wife, at least as long as i don't have one...

Also my point is that there is an ideology behind this...

Ok, let me rephrase....

Ideologically do you differentiate between an insects life and a human life?
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I regularly challenge vegetarians to explain why they have no emotions taking the life of a healthy carrot but cry if a lamb is slaughtered. Both were raised for human consumption and would likely not exist if NOT for the human farmer raising them.

But unconcernedly stomping on a bug compared to shooting a giraffe for sport is not a good comparison. I'll compare them like that when they have similar population numbers. It's blood sport in exchange for money at issue, isn't it? I think that they can find a better way to make 10,000 bucks.
Bugs are probably the most numerous kind of life that humans have managed to get extinct, I mean specie wise. Bugs are not uniform population "bugs", there are different species, etc.

I don't see a problem in hunting giraffes, not even in just shooting giraffes, if it's done sustainable. Paying for hunting permit doesn't change it. Quite few things are totally free. When you put up some sport field, mall, etc., you unevitably deny life from many creatures for the unseable future. Or at least change the mix of the life.
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Why does no one complain about all the cows, chickens, pigs, etc. slaughtered in the name of providing food for the masses?

How is that different?

This animal more then likely became food for another creature.
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Personally I try not to kill any living thing, I put spiders outside, I'll avoid swatting a fly by brushing it off. I understand other people may have a different moral compass.
I do the exact same thing and raised my son the same way. Being aware of your surroundings and honoring the life that surrounds you is an important aspect of being on the planet. That's just my take on it. I know others feel differently. Good to see other like minded people here very cool!
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Thought it was just me
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Putting spiders outside? You barbarians! And you call yourselves as nature lovers or something.

I let them be, unless they are in very obvious place. Although one happy couple died to hunger, so maybe I should also host some insects for them. Though, some chick might have different opinion about having spider webs in the house.

Although I have no trouble killing animals, going hunting this weekend. I am that much naturalist that I know that killing is totally naturally and I accept me being predator. I really am some sort of "hobby" naturalist.

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What people do not realize is that trophy hunters spend A LOT of money for these hunts, thousands and thousands of dollars, which help fund these massive game preserves that keep these incredible animals relatively safe and managed.

I don't necessarily agree with it, but their money does help keep these species managed and alive in the long run.
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Beyond all the morality and/or debates, whether culling or conservation, I wonder where shooting an unarmed animal, unable to defend itself, becomes "sport", becomes enjoyable?

Sure, there's the mythic (not mythical) pleasure of the hunt - but a lot of fishing involves returning the catch to the water.

"The hunt" in the wild can be carried out with a camera, bringing back great footage and images. The pleasure factor can be in both stalking and "capturing".

I get off on that moment of creating or "capturing" the final product in work, whether writing something good and knowing it from a positive reaction, putting out a final webpage and knowing it works, or the foot-stomping head-bopping I'll see during a satisfying harmonica solo...

But these kinds of sport "hunters" are managed, accompanied by a coterie of minders and guides and back-up shooters - there's no "hunt". These are no Toddy Roosevelt-shooting-a-charging-rhino-or-lion adventure.

And there's no food. Just trophies - a head, antlers, tusks, whatever - souvenirs like sociopathic serial killers keep.

So, I always wonder, is it that moment when they squeeze the trigger or release the arrow, sniper-style, and down the animal, completely unaware it has an "opponent", that gives them the 'gasm? The killing?

If that's it I have nothing to relate with the experience - it's beyond my understanding.

I used to just shrug off these safari kills as the needs of the super powerful and super rich being reached due to the fact they had everything they could buy or acquire, and it was one bigger, better "kick" they hadn't achieved. Maybe it's in all of us, and we'd do it if we reached a certain level of power, influence and money.

But, nah. Not everyone of these "hunters" are like that.

Is it a vestige of the "hunter" in our hunter/gatherer ancestry still in the genes?

Is it really just the kill?

It's supposedly a statistical fact most budding serial killers catch, torture or kill, animals. But many who do those things don't end up serial killers.

Maybe we're all better off letting potential psychos shoot the occasional giraffe or lion? These aren't squirrels, dogs or cats... this is "Big Game". What's the logical progression there?

Just idle thinking...

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It's supposedly a statistical fact most budding serial killers catch, torture or kill, animals. But many who do those things don't end up serial killers.
Was watching a documentary some years back where they said that hunters who torture an animal are statistically far more likely to go on to murder a fellow human.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:46 AM   #46
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Beyond all the morality and/or debates, whether culling or conservation, I wonder where shooting an unarmed animal, unable to defend itself, becomes "sport", becomes enjoyable?

Sure, there's the mythic (not mythical) pleasure of the hunt - but a lot of fishing involves returning the catch to the water.
You get catching fishes, but not other prey? Also, the catch and release has mostly to do with sustainable fishing, more than ethical thing. For example pike angler catching bait fish, killing it, putting it as a bait, getting pike and releasing it, isn't actually because of avoidance of killing. At least you kill some maggots, worm, bait fish, etc, if using natural bait.

And what's that shit about unarmed animal? Show me even one predator (specie) that want's to be killed or injured while hunting? If you have watched even some nature documentaries you know that predators go for the weakest and easiest pray. That is probably why you hunt mostly at the supermarket; easiest and safest.

Same goes with war, some guys seem to have unbelievable views about "fair fight". Well, good if you want to die, otherwise not so good. Using some common sense you will get why fair play is shit.

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Old 09-05-2014, 11:07 AM   #47
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I have no words for such barbarity.
What a horrible fucking cunt she is. If I was anywhere near her I would give her so much shit. What kind of big shot does she think she is now that she's killed a Giraffe? Does she think she deserves a trophy? Is she bragging to her cunt friends? Did she do this to make her cock hard? Does her pussy ass husband love her more? (I bet he's a scared little pussy). Un fucking real. She probably thinks she's some kind of great sportsman now too. "Wow Hey look at me, I'm tough! I worked hard and outsmarted a Giraffe! I'm cool!".

Incredible fucking whore.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:23 AM   #48
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What a horrible fucking cunt she is. If I was anywhere near her I would give her so much shit. What kind of big shot does she think she is now that she's killed a Giraffe? Does she think she deserves a trophy? Is she bragging to her cunt friends? Did she do this to make her cock hard? Does her pussy ass husband love her more? (I bet he's a scared little pussy). Un fucking real. She probably thinks she's some kind of great sportsman now too. "Wow Hey look at me, I'm tough! I worked hard and outsmarted a Giraffe! I'm cool!".

Incredible fucking whore.
Her facebook link is posted, seems she is hunting in her own backyard, she's from South Africa.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:58 AM   #49
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Aren't Giraffe populations completely fine, as in not even close to being in danger?
What's so heinous about this chick killing one?

Besides the easily accessible picture putting it in your face that people kill random shit just because.

Go look up how many sharks are killed a year and get all upset about the companies and cultures that drive demand for their killing.

What I'm saying is, fuck Giraffes. Save the Sharks.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:08 PM   #50
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Aren't Giraffe populations completely fine, as in not even close to being in danger?
What's so heinous about this chick killing one?
This thread has absolutely nothing to do with conservation.
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