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Is google that important to porn anyway?
Google seems to be dropping porn.
But should we worry? A smart person can get a vast amounts of hits from tumblr, twitter and so on. In fact even if google had not started to drop porn, the hits you can get from tumblr, twitter and so on surly is far more than google if you do things right. The truth is people go direct to tubes for porn rather than google. When was the last time you used google to find porn?
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Last of a dying breed.
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Da fk did i just read ....
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Google is not dropping porn lol
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I use google to look porn related stuff up all the time. I also get many sales from google, so yes it is important.
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Porn is Dead. Move along.
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google dropping porn?
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Not sure if trolling or actual ignorance but... if you have to ask this question... you're doing something seriously wrong.
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He has a point.
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google adword ! not google
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Who has a point?
No matter who you are, you get traffic from google. If google drops you, you loose a percentage of your traffic right out of the gate. Then we have people who have a business model that is entirely based on SEO... Weren't you the one who was selling the industry "SEO friendly hosting" originally?
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What if the Internet suddenly stopped working?
Where would all my websites GO? How would people find them? What if Google didn't list them? What if Google DID list them but my websites disappeared because I didn't replace the index.html file? Oh fuck now I'm worried.... ![]()
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Pimping ain't easy.
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I think google has stopped advertising porn. And I did read some where that they are trying to clean of google images that has porn. I read an article some where.
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I agree that google doesn't seem to like porn that much. I wonder if it's really google though of this "operation chokepoint" I keep hearing about where the Federal Gov't is putting pressure on a lot of large companies to stop doing business in industries they don't approve of, like guns, ammo and porn.
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Maybe they got paid off by a few large companies.
Yeah that's what happened. One of the companies paid them to change things so they get all the traffic despite offering nothing of value.
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This could be true because after I read that article I did a search for porn and found some ads from some top cam sites even though they said that they stopped advertising it. So maybe they are paying google some big bucks to advertise.
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well you can tell who in this thread has never had any decent amount of google traffic
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Well if you're talking about me you're right I havent but aside from that I don't search for porn on google either, I used to but it's been getting consistently worse with results and bing is just so much better.
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The traffic from Twitter and Tumblr sucks donkey balls.
A few hundred thousand hits from them results in zero money earnt. A few hundred thousand from Google means I can still afford the payments on my M3. |
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I never understand without people visiting ur sites on the first hand and start sharing how could u even market on social media in a bigger scale? Like by following 50 twitters users a day? or by setting tons of small tumblr and link them. U will never get a large amount of traffic at least to me the amount decent enough to even make a worth while profits. Only with the help of a large traffic source like Google people see ur pages and start sharing them, then penetrating the social area u will see some decent hits start coming. At least thats what I experienced. I never had good experiences promoting on Social on the first hand, but when my site get google luv, I start receiving a nice chunk of social responses and sharing.
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depends on what you do with the traffic and where you send it.
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put in the term "anal" in Google and Bing images
at least for me Bing shows tons of anal porn, Google shows horrible pictures of disease ridden anuses also Google does no auto complete/suggestions for porn terms - Bing does so from a porn biz point of view, Google sucks by now
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All of the below. I don't even know where to start with such an uninformed post.
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i get over 25k google search visits a day
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There not dropping pron, hahahahahahahah
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All my sales are from G. So what are u talking about???
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never heard about this google before
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See what I did there? Don't focus on Google, and when Google drops you, you don't give a fuck. Google can drop my company website from their results tomorrow, and you know what? I won't care, because I am not dependent on Google, nor any other site. But Facebook on the otherhand, because of the nature of my company and the people who use it, oh fuck would I be in a world of hurt if Facebook blocked my domain. ![]() Luckily 99% of my domains usage on Facebook is purely through organic sharing and people buying Facebook ads to send to my urls. They're not going to block my domain, so I'm not worried. |
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Simple answer: YES
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If Google does that, they loose 50% traffic and Bing will be the no 1 searchengine.
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Bing conversions are better than Google. Always have been. Microsoft junkies are usually better off than broke fucks on Google. It is just that Google still sends many more broke fucks.
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http://www.xbiz.com/articles/185579
Google’s changes will put money in their pocket, as well as yours. If you are working in the adult industry and do any business with Google, you have undoubtedly run into some sort of problems over the years. Dropped positions from the algorithm changes, deceptive marketing and optimization practices from competitors, and having to constantly review affiliates marketing your own products against you. The newest challenge just showed up. The search engine leader announced that they would no longer allow adult-related advertisements on its AdWords platform. Much to the shock and dismay of the adult industry, which is a big part of the Internet as a whole. Adult is a multibillion-dollar market. After all, “the Internet is for porn” right? However, the revenues in rest of the “mainstream” marketplace is so far beyond the revenue numbers in adult that its a ridiculously bad decision to accept adult and sacrifice the mainstream market. Amazon alone did over $74 billion in revenue selling mainstream items, and that’s just one retailer. Consider that Google’s ad revenues for 2012 were approximately $42 billion. Adult is a drop in that revenue bucket. When you are the size of Google, with the amount of cash they generate, and numerous investors, partners, and with governments and other influential organizations working with (and against) them, you become a very big and obvious target. Its clear that the decision will hurt adult retailers, but there had to be pressure from elsewhere to change policy that has been in place for years. If everyone minded their own business then nobody would want to just stop accepting money from the adult industry, but we don’t live in that world. Every family-oriented brand in the world is concerned with brand reputation and worried about being associated with porn. Is it a coincidence that AdSense doesn’t allow adult publishers? It doesn’t fit their business model. Was disallowing both adult publishers and advertisers the right decision for Google? Definitely. By refusing the stigma related to adult, they have successfully retained their core mainstream market and revenues for the forseeable future. It makes complete sense and financially the best decision. What really happened in the boardrooms to finalize that decision, who knows. First, understand that simply by the numbers of revenue for mainstream ad generation versus adult, that there is little chance Google will reverse their decision until the attitudes of the public changes. Over the last decade, sex and porn has become a more accepted part of the mainstream, its even part of pop culture and in movies like “Don Jon” featuring PornHub.com as the central porn authority to find that “perfect clip.” Fleshlight has made appearances in several movies and TV shows. But that doesn’t mean that everyone likes porn, or at least they pretend not to. In fact, the segregation of mainstream and adult in advertising has existed for some time. Some time ago the ad network “AdBrite” closed its doors. They were at one point a formidable ad network, but you probably know them better as Black Label Ads when they spun off their entire adult division into a darkly labeled network of its adult publishers. I can’t speak for the execs at the former company, but its plausible the primary reason was to keep mainstream advertisers happy who did not want to associated with porn. Its about maintaining the reputation of the advertisers, and its a careful balancing act. AdBrite/BLA didn’t survive. So what now? We accept, make a plan, and move forward. Search engine traffic is still by far the most valuable traffic there is because it is pre-qualified and targeted. Those wanting to rank higher could simply buy those keywords and be placed at the top. However, keep in mind that even if you do not have that advantage to be able to be at the top of the results, neither do any of your competitors. Yes, there are several adult advertising networks in will service your adult brand, but they do not have Google’s quality traffic. There will always be somewhere to spend your money. If you want traffic from the largest search engine, you need to do it through good old search engine optimization. Take all that money you were spending on your keywords and hire reputable experts to optimize your website, your landing pages, your product pages. Some of you can afford to hire several! Reach out and get your product reviewed and legitimately back-linked on the Internet with good anchor text. Soon, you’ll be at the top of those rankings, and guess what? You won’t be paying per click to Google, you’ll be getting the traffic for free. You win.
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bing uses googles content
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