U.S. Considers a No-Fly Zone to Protect Civilians From Airstrikes by Syria - GoFuckYourself.com

wehateporn · 09-27-2014, 07:28 AM

For those who needed it, here's confirmation that this is not really about John McCain's ISIS but is a technique to get rid of Assad

However, surely Russia wouldn't allow this

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/27/wo...ria-.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has not ruled out establishing a no-fly zone over northeastern Syria to protect civilians from airstrikes by the Syrian government, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Friday.

Mr. Hagel and General Dempsey indicated they are open to considering the request of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey for a buffer zone along the Turkish-Syrian border, where tens of thousands of Syrians have sought refuge. Mr. Hagel said, “We’ve discussed all these possibilities and will continue to talk about what the Turks believe they will require.” He said 1.3 million Syrian refugees are now in Turkey.

General Dempsey added that “a buffer zone might at some point become a possibility,” but he said it was not imminent. Creating a buffer, or no-fly zone, would require warplanes to disable the Syrian government’s air defense system through airstrikes.

Both men spoke as the Pentagon continued its own airstrikes against the Islamic State. The extremist group is battling President Bashar al-Assad of Syria and Syrian insurgents backed by the United States — a complication of the American military campaign in Syria that began this week.

On Friday in Turkey, the Syrian Kurdish enclave of Kobani near the border with Turkey was on the verge of falling to Islamic State militants, residents said. Kurdish militants there said they had struggled to fight off the militants all week even as an American-led coalition launched airstrikes against the Islamic State elsewhere in Syria.

By late afternoon, Islamic State militants could be seen along the border both east and west of the main town of Kobani, also known as Ain al-Arab, a constellation of mostly Kurdish farming villages with a population of 400,000. Fighting intensified as night fell, with heavy clashes reported near the town.

Refugees fleeing into Turkey and Kurdish fighters seeking to cross into Syria to defend Kobani expressed anger and perplexity that the American-led coalition had not launched airstrikes against their assailants to avert what the refugees said would be a massacre. The Islamic State’s attacks on Kurdish civilians in Iraq triggered the first American strikes on the group last month.

crockett · 09-27-2014, 08:10 AM

Fighting IS in Syria was just a convenient way to oust Assad while having an excuse. Anyone whom thinks we are there to actually fight IS is pretty nieieve. If you notice some of the first "IS" targets we started hitting were oil refineries..

Now no fly zone.. It's pretty easy to see the writing on the wall. Blow up yet another country, so the military industrial complex can keep the economy rolling..

It's almost as transparent as now Russia suddenly wanting to help fight IS. Russia's only want is to have troops in Syria to keep Assad's regime alive. Russia will try to place troops in Syria as a attempt to cock block the US and keep us from taking him out just like we cock blocked Russia in Ukraine.

It's Cold War proxy wars all over again.

pornmasta · 09-27-2014, 09:01 AM

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It's Cold War proxy wars all over again.

yes, or or or:
this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkanization

EonBlue · 09-27-2014, 09:38 AM

Well I'm so glad that the two geniuses wehateporn and crockett have it all figured it out. Figuring out these extremely complicated situations must be so easy when you can just make shit up.

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crockett · 09-27-2014, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

Well I'm so glad that the two geniuses wehateporn and crockett have it all figured it out. Figuring out these extremely complicated situations must be so easy when you can just make shit up.

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Hey look it's the Canadian whom tries to pretend he's an American Conservative.

directfiesta · 09-27-2014, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Hey look it's the Canadian whom tries to pretend he's an American Conservative.

think you forgot to insert as well " jew " ....

CAHEK · 09-27-2014, 10:10 PM

Assad receives assistance from Iran, the largest Shia country in the world; Hezbollah, a Shia State within a state in Lebanon; and Russia.Adding to the complexity, the opposition is divided amongst the relatively secularist Free Syrian Army, which is funded by the United States.

EonBlue · 09-28-2014, 08:33 AM

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Hey look it's the Canadian whom tries to pretend he's an American Conservative.

I don't try to pretend to be American anything. If I was trying to pretend to be American why would I list my location as Canada? I am 100% Canadian with no desire to be anything else. And anybody looks conservative to you when you're looking at them from the twisted depths of the extreme left that you inhabit.

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think you forgot to insert as well " jew " ....

And you're nothing but a rotten communist jew hating bitch. You think that just because I don't hate jews like you do that makes me a jew? Not only are you unashamed of being a jew hater you actually think it's quite funny. Do you roam the streets of Montreal looking for jews to laugh at and harass?

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crockett · 09-28-2014, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

I don't try to pretend to be American anything. If I was trying to pretend to be American why would I list my location as Canada? I am 100% Canadian with no desire to be anything else. And anybody looks conservative to you when you're looking at them from the twisted depths of the extreme left that you inhabit.

And you're nothing but a rotten communist jew hating bitch. You think that just because I don't hate jews like you do that makes me a jew? Not only are you unashamed of being a jew hater you actually think it's quite funny. Do you roam the streets of Montreal looking for jews to laugh at and harass?

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It must be a sad world to live in, to be so angry all the time.

directfiesta · 09-28-2014, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

And you're nothing but a rotten communist jew hating bitch. You think that just because I don't hate jews like you do that makes me a jew? Not only are you unashamed of being a jew hater you actually think it's quite funny. Do you roam the streets of Montreal looking for jews to laugh at and harass?

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you are so uninformed and stupid ... alone you bring down the average IQ of Canada

PS: i was married to a jew for 14 years, by a rabbi ...
I had Friday night a couple over for BB ... she is jewish ...

But I do not support blindly any nation, unlike you and our prime minister .

EonBlue · 09-28-2014, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

It must be a sad world to live in, to be so angry all the time.

Who says I'm angry all the time or at all? Don't mistake my dislike of leftists and jew haters for anger.

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EonBlue · 09-28-2014, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

you are so uninformed and stupid ... alone you bring down the average IQ of Canada

PS: i was married to a jew for 14 years, by a rabbi ...
I had Friday night a couple over for BB ... she is jewish ...

But I do not support blindly any nation, unlike you and our prime minister .

Wow.

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crockett · 09-28-2014, 09:08 AM

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Who says I'm angry all the time or at all? Don't mistake my dislike of leftists and jew haters for anger.

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Normal people don't walk around calling people names all the time or trying to belittle everyone they think is inferior to them. It's a sign of mental illness and it's very common among hardcore conservatives.

Hence the reason I say you are pretending to be an American Conservative as that group has more than it's share of people whom suffer from the same thing as you. Most of them act the same, angry, hateful and think they are better than everyone else. Much the same as you do.

EonBlue · 09-28-2014, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Normal people don't walk around calling people names all the time or trying to belittle everyone they think is inferior to them. It's a sign of mental illness and it's very common among hardcore conservatives.

Hence the reason I say you are pretending to be an American Conservative as that group has more than it's share of people whom suffer from the same thing as you. Most of them act the same, angry, hateful and think they are better than everyone else. Much the same as you do.

Actually that's pretty funny because I think the exact same thing of American leftists and leftists in general including yourself. You, amongst others here, often come across with an air of superiority and self-righteousness.

Leftists are the most detached from reality and mentally ill group of people there is.

And I rarely call people names. But there are always exceptions.

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crockett · 09-28-2014, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

Actually that's pretty funny because I think the exact same thing of American leftists and leftists in general including yourself. You, amongst others here, often come across with an air of superiority and self-righteousness.

Leftists are the most detached from reality and mentally ill group of people there is.

And I rarely call people names. But there are always exceptions.

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The funny thing is, I'm not a leftist. See your hate of anything you disagree with leads you to label me a "leftist" or socialist or what ever your current big word of the day is.

However, I own guns, I support less taxes I don't believe in supporting welfare queens that don't try to help them selfs and I've always worked for everything I've gotten, as well as owned 4 businesses.

What your pea brain can't comprehend, is that I don't just classify minorities as welfare queens, but also big business Whom get constant tax subsidies. I don't believe that big business should have more say in my govt than the people do.

As for taxes, I don't think that one group should get to dictate their tax rate due to having more money. I support everyone paying their own share, not just lip service from Right wing politicians that claim they want lower taxes yet really only care about taxes for the 1% while spending more than democrats..

I don't believe in unconditional gun owner ship, but I support the right to own guns and I think if police focused more on violent crimes than petty drug crimes we would be better off.

I'm also very much against the current NSA spying and everything that comes with it.

However because I believe the right wing in my country has gone bat shit crazy that makes me a leftist in your little hatter-aide world.

EonBlue · 09-28-2014, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

The funny thing is, I'm not a leftist. See your hate of anything you disagree with leads you to label me a "leftist" or socialist or what ever your current big word of the day is.

However, I own guns, I support less taxes I don't believe in supporting welfare queens that don't try to help them selfs and I've always worked for everything I've gotten, as well as owned 4 businesses.

What your pea brain can't comprehend, is that I don't just classify minorities as welfare queens, but also big business Whom get constant tax subsidies. I don't believe that big business should have more say in my govt than the people do.

As for taxes, I don't think that one group should get to dictate their tax rate due to having more money. I support everyone paying their own share, not just lip service from Right wing politicians that claim they want lower taxes yet really only care about taxes for the 1% while spending more than democrats..

I don't believe in unconditional gun owner ship, but I support the right to own guns and I think if police focused more on violent crimes than petty drug crimes we would be better off.

I'm also very much against the current NSA spying and everything that comes with it.

However because I believe the right wing in my country has gone bat shit crazy that makes me a leftist in your little hatter-aide world.

Okay, so you're not a leftist. I am genuinely sorry to have miscategorized you so.

It's a tragedy that a non-leftist such as yourself, were he to vote, has to choose between "bat shit crazy" right wing republicans and a democratic party that has been hijacked by leftists and socialists (not big words where I come from) and are just as "bat shit crazy" as the other guys (even more so from any rational judgement).

Faced with those choices I am guessing you don't vote. If you do vote, and vote as I assume you would for the democrats, I guess as the non-leftist you are that would just make you a leftist enabler and not a full blown leftist. Looks like you are screwed either way.

Now as for calling me "pea brain" I will try to ignore that you called me out for calling people names just a few posts ago.

And as much as you think I have generalized you and your political leanings you have done just as much generalizing of me. Pot meet kettle.

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09-27-2014, 07:28 AM	#1
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	U.S. Considers a No-Fly Zone to Protect Civilians From Airstrikes by Syria For those who needed it, here's confirmation that this is not really about John McCain's ISIS but is a technique to get rid of Assad However, surely Russia wouldn't allow this http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/27/wo...ria-.html?_r=0 WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has not ruled out establishing a no-fly zone over northeastern Syria to protect civilians from airstrikes by the Syrian government, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Friday. Mr. Hagel and General Dempsey indicated they are open to considering the request of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey for a buffer zone along the Turkish-Syrian border, where tens of thousands of Syrians have sought refuge. Mr. Hagel said, “We’ve discussed all these possibilities and will continue to talk about what the Turks believe they will require.” He said 1.3 million Syrian refugees are now in Turkey. General Dempsey added that “a buffer zone might at some point become a possibility,” but he said it was not imminent. Creating a buffer, or no-fly zone, would require warplanes to disable the Syrian government’s air defense system through airstrikes. Both men spoke as the Pentagon continued its own airstrikes against the Islamic State. The extremist group is battling President Bashar al-Assad of Syria and Syrian insurgents backed by the United States — a complication of the American military campaign in Syria that began this week. On Friday in Turkey, the Syrian Kurdish enclave of Kobani near the border with Turkey was on the verge of falling to Islamic State militants, residents said. Kurdish militants there said they had struggled to fight off the militants all week even as an American-led coalition launched airstrikes against the Islamic State elsewhere in Syria. By late afternoon, Islamic State militants could be seen along the border both east and west of the main town of Kobani, also known as Ain al-Arab, a constellation of mostly Kurdish farming villages with a population of 400,000. Fighting intensified as night fell, with heavy clashes reported near the town. Refugees fleeing into Turkey and Kurdish fighters seeking to cross into Syria to defend Kobani expressed anger and perplexity that the American-led coalition had not launched airstrikes against their assailants to avert what the refugees said would be a massacre. The Islamic State’s attacks on Kurdish civilians in Iraq triggered the first American strikes on the group last month. __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing Last edited by wehateporn; 09-27-2014 at 07:29 AM..

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	Fighting IS in Syria was just a convenient way to oust Assad while having an excuse. Anyone whom thinks we are there to actually fight IS is pretty nieieve. If you notice some of the first "IS" targets we started hitting were oil refineries.. Now no fly zone.. It's pretty easy to see the writing on the wall. Blow up yet another country, so the military industrial complex can keep the economy rolling.. It's almost as transparent as now Russia suddenly wanting to help fight IS. Russia's only want is to have troops in Syria to keep Assad's regime alive. Russia will try to place troops in Syria as a attempt to cock block the US and keep us from taking him out just like we cock blocked Russia in Ukraine. It's Cold War proxy wars all over again. Last edited by crockett; 09-27-2014 at 08:14 AM..

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CAHEK C.C.C.P. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Novorossiya Posts: 7,039	Assad receives assistance from Iran, the largest Shia country in the world; Hezbollah, a Shia State within a state in Lebanon; and Russia.Adding to the complexity, the opposition is divided amongst the relatively secularist Free Syrian Army, which is funded by the United States. Last edited by CAHEK; 09-27-2014 at 10:17 PM..

09-27-2014, 09:38 AM	#4
EonBlue Apocalypse Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Location: Limbo Posts: 3,043	Well I'm so glad that the two geniuses wehateporn and crockett have it all figured it out. Figuring out these extremely complicated situations must be so easy when you can just make shit up. .