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View Poll Results: do program owners have to disable affiliate for using their site names for promotion?
yes, protecting site name is more important than having piracy serps in google 5 31.25%
no, site name is no problem nowadays and program owners have to rethink about their old tos 11 68.75%
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:09 AM   #1
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to protect of not to protect your site name?

hi gfy. just got disabled at one program, for using his site name for my promotion. so, i want to ask, now, in the time of piracy and in the time when serps are mostly only pro piracy results as torrents and tubes, do you think it is still best idea that programs are disabling affiliates for using site name? you know, affiliate, cannot use site name, pirate, can use site name, so serps are then from pirates, and not from affiliates. is this really the best that program owners can do today, to piss off webmasters, who are trying their best, with some "we do not allow this kind of promotion, you are more danger than pirates to us" rules? please, vote, just want to know if i am the only one stupid thinking the way that program owners have to allow affiliates use site names for promotion ... i know its program owners thing, just will be great to show them poll where they will see they do it wrong, or to show them that they are doing it the best thank you everyone for vote, have a nice day and wish you best with your business everyone!
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:11 AM   #2
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:14 AM   #3
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I laugh when they pull that one and then take tube traffic.
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:15 AM   #4
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Give us an example
everyone knows what i am talking about, buying domains or making subdomains with site name in it, and, of course, making whole content only to promote the original site ...
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:18 AM   #5
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I laugh when they pull that one and then take tube traffic.
i got also email from one company saying that they will better see pirates on my site, than me promoting them ... ooops ... how can be someone that, excuse me, and excuse the site owner if you know who i am talking about, how can be someone that dumb?
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:20 AM   #6
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everyone knows what i am talking about, buying domains or making subdomains with site name in it, and, of course, making whole content only to promote the original site ...
I guess you would only want to do that, if you have a huge brand you have to defend for legal reasons. I am pretty sure somne IP lawyers can explain why you would want to do this.
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I am opened to any kind of promotion on my upcoming program
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:27 AM   #8
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I guess you would only want to do that, if you have a huge brand you have to defend for legal reasons. I am pretty sure somne IP lawyers can explain why you would want to do this.
There is a difference between legality and common sense ;)
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:36 AM   #9
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There is a difference between legality and common sense ;)
For sure and it's huge lol
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:39 AM   #10
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There is a difference between legality and common sense ;)
that is it, depends if the site is following and crediting the original site, or if it just parasites on that name and promotes something else ... shame, some program owners see both situations the same ...
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:41 AM   #11
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If you do it just to PROMOTE that ONE program it's not so bad. Most people are greedy dims and start promoting other programs on the domain. That is not cool.

Pirates can be dealt with more and more these days.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:06 AM   #12
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bump for more votes ...
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btw, if i remember right, there were thing called free sites ... and this is exactly what are free sites about ... so, again, i really dont understand problem of dedicated free site to paysite ... really, why someone have problem with them?
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:06 PM   #14
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it's a dick move

you should out the program in this thread
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you should out the program in this thread
So far only programs which were doing that was naughtyamerica and fleshlight howmuch i know.
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:19 PM   #16
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It all depends on the agreement terms entered into. If the program did not allow that ... they are right. otherwise they are dicks.
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:23 PM   #17
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Misusing a trademark can diminish its strength. While it may be ok for Mercedes, BMW, Honda, Toyota, etc to allow dealers to use their brands for marketing, the same can't be said about mainstream/porn website sponsors allowing affiliates to use their marks.

Auto dealers are carefully scrutinized, go through extensive training and must commit millions of dollars to their businesses. These large businesses have lawyers and are responsible, whereas typical mainstream/porn affiliates are much less sophisticated small operations with limited resources. Large affiliate programs can have over a million affiliates, who do not require special qualifications or training. For affiliate programs, it's strictly a numbers game. A handful of super affiliates will bring in big numbers, some will do good business and the vast majority will just spin their wheels (pun intended) without making any sales. It's easier for sponsors to simply deny all affiliates from using their marks by default and then allow a few responsible ones who generate business to use their brands by request.
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thank you all for the votes and answers ... i am nicely trying to get answer from the program rep what to do with that problem, if they really want me to shut all those sales making serps down, and nobody is answering me ... i am really feeling like the biggest pain for them ... worse than pirate, worse than hacker, worse than file sharer ... so will wait until next week, and if nobody will answer, i will out the program here so you know who is doing what business these days ... thanks again all for your votes, and have a nice weekend everyone!
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doesnt matter they made me nice money, and doesnt matter i am still sending them sales, what i see from email reports, just, if someone feel like i am some danger, i feel they are danger for me, if they do not want to communicate ... and i feel like it is danger for more webmasters who can waste tons of time with them, like me now ... from 2007 registered, sent many of legit rebilling sales from tons of my places ...
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:10 AM   #20
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Are you actually making sales for the program or diverting traffic searching for them to other products in a way which might cause confusion? That is pretty much the litmus test for whether you are diluting their trademark or helping them.
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