News five new movies from Sony Pictures are being devoured on copyright-infringing file-sharing hubs onli

[lezinterracial]

"Fury” has been downloaded by over 888,000 unique IP addresses since showing up on peer-to-peer networks on Nov. 27, according to piracy tracking firm Excipio. That’s high enough to be the second most downloaded movie currently being pirated, and it’s not out of movie theaters yet.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/s/sony-...023721899.html

"Annie” won’t be pirated as much because family films aren’t subject to as much illegal downloading as titles that skew more toward young males.

That is what I have always believed. No decent band that guys like will make it big again. We got Biebers for life.

[Matt 26z]

888,000 downloads is only $7.1 million at $8 per ticket. And there's a good chance that the vast majority of these people wouldn't have gone to see it anyway.

Hollywood's problem is HDTV in every home, not piracy. The movie theater experience is cheaper than it was 20 years ago.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

888,000 downloads is only $7.1 million at $8 per ticket. And there's a good chance that the vast majority of these people wouldn't have gone to see it anyway.

I've heard this excuse before and it doesn't fly. Theft is theft. It's the same thing as any adult website's content showing up on a tube site because the tube site owner would say "hey, my users wouldn't pay for your stuff anyway".

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Hollywood's problem is HDTV in every home, not piracy. The movie theater experience is cheaper than it was 20 years ago.

How is HDTV a problem? I love HDTV and pay for all my content via Satellite, Apple TV, Netflix, and Pay per view. I wouldn't buy all that stuff if I didn't have HDTV.

We also go to the movies, at least once a month. I have zero problem spending $18.00 to see a movie in IMAX, and the movies I usually see are packed full of other $18.00 ticket holders too.

A typical blockbuster costs $100M to make these days, but even super low budget movies deserve to make their money.

[spads]

Are those download numbers just US or worldwide? A lot of illegal downloading happens in the 2nd or 3rd world where the cost of a movie ticket is close to what people make in a day. Also, I still don't understand why Hollywood feels the need to stagger movie releases now that the internet exists. If someone in Bulgaria sees that a movie is out in the US, but won't get released in Bulgaria for another 4 months, they're gonna get it illegally because people hate waiting for shit.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The movie theater experience is cheaper than it was 20 years ago.

Simply not true.

According to Box Office Mojo the average ticket price for a movie in 1994 (20 years ago) was $4.18. When you adjust for inflation that is $6.70 in 2014 dollars. That same site says that currently the average ticket price is $8.12.

[k0nr4d]

They'd definately reduce piracy if they allowed online streaming etc. We have 2 kids, and it's hard to go to a movie theatre at a specific hour. I'd be more then happy to pay $20 or whatever to watch something like the new hunger games movie right now, in my living room. Instead, I have to wait until it's out of theatres because there's no way i'll be able to go see it in a theatre.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by **********

I've heard this excuse before and it doesn't fly. Theft is theft. It's the same thing as any adult website's content showing up on a tube site because the tube site owner would say "hey, my users wouldn't pay for your stuff anyway".



.

You could say "hey, they shouldn't watch it anyway".

Isn't it so weird to use that logic in an argument? When have you ever not watched something because you weren't "going to purchase it anyway"? By that logic, then you had no interest in it in the first place.

[suesheboy]

---theaters make their money on popcorn, candy and drinks.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by lezinterracial

"Fury? has been downloaded by over 888,000 unique IP addresses since showing up on peer-to-peer networks on Nov. 27, according to piracy tracking firm Excipio. That?s high enough to be the second most downloaded movie currently being pirated, and it?s not out of movie theaters yet.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/s/sony-...023721899.html

That's a huge amount of people. Wonder what quality it's in atm?

I'm surprised to know, if Excipio can track unique IP's, why have they not began the law that those downloading the movie would be fined. This would put an end to password sharing & piracy sites

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

They'd definately reduce piracy if they allowed online streaming etc. We have 2 kids, and it's hard to go to a movie theatre at a specific hour. I'd be more then happy to pay $20 or whatever to watch something like the new hunger games movie right now, in my living room. Instead, I have to wait until it's out of theatres because there's no way i'll be able to go see it in a theatre.

Same here. I was actually lucky enough to get my dad to take the kids last weekend, so me and my wife could go and see Mockingjay I.

[DamageX]

BTW, Fury was great!

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

---theaters make their money on popcorn, candy and drinks.

And a portion of ticket sales.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

That's a huge amount of people. Wonder what quality it's in atm?

I'm surprised to know, if Excipio can track unique IP's, why have they not began the law that those downloading the movie would be fined. This would put an end to password sharing & piracy sites

Because you can't sue an IP address. Well, you can...but that hasn't worked out so well for those who've tried.

[seeandsee]

Expendables also were online before premiere, someone is leaking movies left and right

[candyflip]

Blame North Korea!

[lezinterracial]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

Expendables also were online before premiere, someone is leaking movies left and right

https://variety.com/2014/digital/new...on-1201364431/

The pair are believed to have stolen the film from a “cloud-based system” before uploading it to the Internet, police said. The London Police unit didn’t identify how detectives tracked down the two men, or from which service they are believed to have purloined the film.

I wonder how they were tracked down. If these guys were able to have gotten on the "cloud-based system", It seems like they would have been smart enough to use a RAT with a torrent seeder.

Maybe not as technical as I am thinking. Inside job.

[MrBottomTooth]

I just checked Fury to see the quality of the rip and supposedly it's a screener copy, so it's slightly below DVD quality and supposedly has 5.1 dolby digital and is less than a couple GB in size, so is highly compressed. Some people have upconverted it to 720p but it's still the same crap quality.

I think most people that would download and enjoy watching something of that low quality that are the type that would not waste the money on a theater ticket anyway.

Where they really lose the money has to be in bluray sales when the good quality rips hit that are 12+GB and have DTS master audio. There's really no reason to buy the bluray then, except to keep yourself honest and to support the studios.

[shoot twice]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

888,000 downloads is only $7.1 million at $8 per ticket. And there's a good chance that the vast majority of these people wouldn't have gone to see it anyway.

Wish I could do take this line of thinking at the Porsche dealership. "Hey buddy, I have no intention of ever buying one of these cars but I'll just take this one to drive down to the beach for the day and bring it back when I'm done.


what I can't understand is if it's not good enough to pay for it then why is it suddenly good enough to watch for free? Nothing else works on this principal in life.

[CaptainHowdy]

[woj]

Originally Posted by kane

Simply not true.

According to Box Office Mojo the average ticket price for a movie in 1994 (20 years ago) was $4.18. When you adjust for inflation that is $6.70 in 2014 dollars. That same site says that currently the average ticket price is $8.12.

I think he meant that you can get "movie theater"-like experience at home dirt cheap now a days... so going to the movies makes less sense...

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Because you can't sue an IP address. Well, you can...but that hasn't worked out so well for those who've tried.

If IP address is proof of user, viewer, householder, as it's only given to one paying customer from an internet provider. It should be proof of the person downloading stolen content, i.e handling stolen good.

I suppose the only way this can be denied is if there are many people using the same IP address in that one household. I would have thought it still remain the paying customer that is liable for the said IP address.

[freecartoonporn]

what konrad said is correct.

[freecartoonporn]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

If IP address is proof of user, viewer, householder, as it's only given to one paying customer from an internet provider. It should be proof of the person downloading stolen content, i.e handling stolen good.

I suppose the only way this can be denied is if there are many people using the same IP address in that one household. I would have thought it still remain the paying customer that is liable for the said IP address.

that hasn't worked out so well for those who've tried.

[American Psycho]

Auto bill every ip that downloads it. Much like pay by phone.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by American Psycho

Auto bill every ip that downloads it. Much like pay by phone.

That worked quite well for dialers. Oh, wait...

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

---theaters make their money on popcorn, candy and drinks.

Originally Posted by candyflip

And a portion of ticket sales.

And extra charges for premium seating, 3D and (upgraded) UltraAVX theaters.

The wife and I go to movie theatres a fair bit. Typically we go to the Cineplex theatre in Niagara Falls.

The UltraAVX admission is $12.95ea. (plus tax). That's $26 just to get in the door.

The large pop/popcorn combo we usually get is another $14 each. (plus tax). $28 total.

So we end up spending over $50 per movie (last one we saw was Fury).

Recently they've introduced a new "premium seating" reserve surcharge - if you want to sit in the optimum middle rows...that's an extra few bucks more per person. I heard they may eliminate it after public outcry, though.

I don't say the outrageous theatre prices justify illegal downloading - but I can certainly see how/why some people justify it that way. We still pay the ridiculous prices because we have the disposable budget, we both enjoy seeing movies on the big screen...and there's just no substitute for sticky pop on the floor and someone kicking the back of your seat for 2 hours.

[JD]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

They'd definately reduce piracy if they allowed online streaming etc. We have 2 kids, and it's hard to go to a movie theatre at a specific hour. I'd be more then happy to pay $20 or whatever to watch something like the new hunger games movie right now, in my living room. Instead, I have to wait until it's out of theatres because there's no way i'll be able to go see it in a theatre.

10000 times this ^

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

If IP address is proof of user, viewer, householder, as it's only given to one paying customer from an internet provider. It should be proof of the person downloading stolen content, i.e handling stolen good.

I suppose the only way this can be denied is if there are many people using the same IP address in that one household. I would have thought it still remain the paying customer that is liable for the said IP address.

Give it a shot and let us know how it works out for you.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by DamageX

BTW, Fury was great! piece of shit!

[kane]

Originally Posted by woj

I think he meant that you can get "movie theater"-like experience at home dirt cheap now a days... so going to the movies makes less sense...

That may be.

On Thanksgiving while watching football I remember seeing ads for 48in HDTVs for about $200.

The first HDTV I bought about 10 years ago was that size and it was $1500. Prices have dropped dramatically.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

To each their own.

[Paul]

Personally I find the movie theater experience insufferable these days, the last few times I've gone there is always at least one asshole that is checking their smartphone for 5 - 10 minutes during the film. SO distracting trying to watch a film in the dark when some inconsiderate moron is annoying everyone else with a brightly lit smartphone, even worse when there is a couple of people doing it during a film.

Originally Posted by woj

I think he meant that you can get "movie theater"-like experience at home dirt cheap now a days... so going to the movies makes less sense...

I tend to agree with this, a decent TV and surround sound system isn't expensive and I also agree with the posters who would gladly pay $20 or whatever to see the new releases streamed to their TV instead of having to go to the theater.

Also I agree Fury was excellent!