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Old 12-24-2014, 07:24 AM   #1
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Another Shooting of a 18 year old by police Near Ferguson, Missouri.

A man was shot and killed by a police officer Tuesday in Berkeley, Missouri, authorities said -- sparking new unrest in a region already reeling following an August police shooting a few miles away in Ferguson.

The shooting happened at 11:15 p.m. Tuesday at a Mobil gas station, St. Louis County Chief of Police Jon Belmar said in a morning news conference.

Belmar said police visited the gas station when a report of a larceny came in. The victim, who is 18 years old, pointed a gun at the officer, sparking the deadly shooting, Belmar said.

Video Shows Moments Before Police Shooting Near Ferguson, Missouri - ABC News
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:35 AM   #2
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I am sure this is one more "innocent kid". Or not - if he is white, lol.
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Another dead pos -

"Belmar declined to release the victim?s name or race, but said the man?s criminal record includes assault and armed robbery charges. "
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:49 AM   #5
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what is going on with police?
Yeah, how dare they respond to a pointed gun
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:55 AM   #6
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Must of been a black cop shooting a white guy, because they didn't mention the race of any of the involved..









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black kid with a gun who pointed it at the coppers so his own fault but ...

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"This individual could have complied with the officer, he could have run away, he could have dropped the gun. Things did not have to end with him approaching an officer with a 9mm pistol in his hand."

Between 200 and 300 people gathered at the scene after the incident, Col Belmar said, adding that bricks were thrown at police officers, and three explosive devices set off.

Four people had been arrested for assaulting police officers, he said.
BBC News - St Louis unrest after police killing of teenager

The beeb as said earlier that the petrol station had been looted too but removed that information, wonder why? makes the "protest" seem less than legitimate?
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The other 2 recent ones could be argued against, but this time.. correct response.
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A man was shot and killed by a police officer Tuesday in Berkeley, Missouri, authorities said -- sparking new unrest in a region already reeling following an August police shooting a few miles away in Ferguson.

The shooting happened at 11:15 p.m. Tuesday at a Mobil gas station, St. Louis County Chief of Police Jon Belmar said in a morning news conference.

Belmar said police visited the gas station when a report of a larceny came in. The victim, who is 18 years old, pointed a gun at the officer, sparking the deadly shooting, Belmar said.

Video Shows Moments Before Police Shooting Near Ferguson, Missouri - ABC News
maybe black people need to stop being assholes?
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Plain and simple. The fuck deserved to die. Point a gun at a cop EXPECT to get shot and be killed! White, Black, Brown, Purple, Yellow what the fuck ever color. You're gonna get fatally shot dumb ass..... 200-300 people show up to protest, People get a fucking life. And on Christmas Eve (Pathetic)
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Horrible thing, but looks like it was justified.
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Horrible thing, but looks like it was justified.
What's horrible about threat to society being eliminated?
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One less black psuedo-gangbanger. No loss for the world.
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cops 3 deadbeat thugs
hoods 2 nypd officers
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Old 12-24-2014, 10:23 AM   #17
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They shoot back if you point a gun at them?
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Old 12-24-2014, 10:24 AM   #18
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BBC News - St Louis unrest after police killing of teenager

The beeb as said earlier that the petrol station had been looted too but removed that information, wonder why? makes the "protest" seem less than legitimate?
Why does our government put up with these low life scum? Anyone showing up to these things causing trouble should all be arrested or shot.
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They shoot back if you point a gun at them?
but why to kill ?
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The guy who killed the police also killed his girlfriend and himself so he is more of a tie.
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but why to kill ?
Point a gun at a cop, You should expect nothing less than a headshot.
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Here's an issue people probably didn't expect could be come an issue.

My girl was just told by her commanding officers that for the time being, they are not to wear anything or say anything that would identify themselves as an LEO unless they are in uniform or providing ID to another LEO. There are a number of incidents daily that are resolved by off duty officers and now, at least here I live, those people are being told not to put themselves in jeopardy outside of the job.

This is just one of a list of new safety precautions they are having to take, based on the current climate.
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Are you fucking serious? Libtard of some kind? You hesitate a split second you may be dead yourself.
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Why does our government put up with these low life scum? Anyone showing up to these things causing trouble should all be arrested or shot.
That would be "politically incorrect". They must walk on toes when black people are involved, otherwise they risk being called out as raciss. Unfortunately that is the climate there, hipster/guilter media brainwashed the society to this level..
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If you are to protect yourself, you always aim center mass, bigger target and chance of hitting your target.
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If someone points a gun at you you dump 3 rounds center body ...
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Pretty simple.

Pull a gun on anyone that knows how to use a gun and is carrying, high probability they may shoot back.

Pull a gun on a police officer, you have guaranteed your fate.

"Me or him." Anyone with the desire to live is going to make sure it's "him."
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Are you fucking serious? Libtard of some kind? You hesitate a split second you may be dead yourself.
wow ... did not find your meds ....

FYI, cops are supposed to be trained to shoot to incapacitate the assailant unless their life is in direct danger .

" Repugnican of some kind ? "
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FYI, cops are supposed to be trained to shoot to incapacitate the assailant unless their life is in direct danger .
No, they aren't. Why? Because it's a myth. It looks good on TV, but shooting a guy in the shoulder to guarantee he doesn't shoot back is, well, a myth.

Having a gun pointed at the officer qualifies as his life being in danger.
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FYI, cops are supposed to be trained to shoot to incapacitate the assailant unless their life is in direct danger .

" Repugnican of some kind ? "
Where did you see that, cops are trained to shoot center mass

Members of law enforcement are legally permitted to use deadly force when they have probable cause to believe that a suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm either to the officer or to others. In such cases, most officers are trained to shoot at a target's center mass, where there is a higher concentration of vital areas and major blood vessels, according to a report by the Force Science Institute, a research center that examines deadly force encounters.

Why Do Cops So Often Shoot To Kill?
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like what happened with that kid with the toy gun?
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Members of law enforcement are legally permitted to use deadly force when they have probable cause to believe that a suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm either to the officer or to others. In such cases, most officers are trained to shoot at a target's center mass, where there is a higher concentration of vital areas and major blood vessels, according to a report by the Force Science Institute, a research center that examines deadly force encounters.

Why Do Cops So Often Shoot To Kill?
In this case , seems like the officer is not outside the law, but still could have tried to incapacitate temporarely the " at the time " suspect .

Out of 3 shots, one hit the suspect, another the patrol cruiser ( strange ... ) and one is unacounted for .

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What is strange if why those suspect walked over to the cruiser as requested by the officer instead of fleeing ... not smart .
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What's going on with the police? How about meeting deadly force with deadly force! It's a no brainer. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
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like what happened with that kid with the toy gun?
Don't know the case, But if it looked real and the "kid" was old enough that you would think they may actually be able to shoot you then Yes! If it's a me or them circumstance I don't care if the person is black, white, male, female, pregnant, retarded, or a child. In any case other than being my own child I choose me.
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When the police do building checks they make sure it is secure. Pull on doors and check windows. It's to let the community know their structures are getting patrolled. By law if people are loitering at a business that's closed and there is no reason for anyone to be there cops can detain to verify the reason for being there. Usually it falls under loitering and prowling. It thwarts a lot of crimes in progress.
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If the facts are correct, then this is a clean shoot. The problem is cops shooting unarmed blacks...but some people won't see a difference an complain anyway.
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hmmm, the news said black teen, white cop on local TV here

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Where did you read that?
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In this case , seems like the officer is not outside the law, but still could have tried to incapacitate temporarely the " at the time " suspect .

Out of 3 shots, one hit the suspect, another the patrol cruiser ( strange ... ) and one is unacounted for .



What is strange if why those suspect walked over to the cruiser as requested by the officer instead of fleeing ... not smart .
Allow me to give you some insight. I don't know much about this specific case, but this is just general information on police training and the reality of shooting a person. One of my best friends is a cop. He was also a presidential guard in the Marine Corp and he is his department's firearms instructor. He has spent hours and hours in classes and seminars and in training exercises learning how to best instruct officers on how to use their firearms.

Here are a few interesting things he has learned:

1. They are trained to shoot to kill. The reason is simple. If you shoot a guy in the leg he can still return fire and kill you or an innocent bystander.

2. The human body was not built to react to being shot at or shooting another person. In the heat of the moment you react in a very specific way. Your shoulders hunch and your head comes down and your arms rise so as to protect your neck and the back of your head. You have no control over this, your body does it involuntarily. Your brain also thinks faster than your body can move. So when a bad guy pulls a guy and you pull yours to shoot back your brain is already taking the shot before you have the gun all the way up and aimed. This is why there is a bullet in the cruiser and one unaccounted for. In many cases the bullets will "walk" to the suspect which means there may be a few rounds in a line in the ground leading up to the person they are shooting. This happens because the brain has you pulling the trigger in an effort to defend yourself while you are still raising the gun and aiming.

3. Shooting someone in the leg, shoulder, arm etc is hard. Under extreme stress if you have 1.2 seconds to draw your gun and shoot someone that is 10-15 feet away the odds of even the best marksman hitting a limb is pretty slim. It is much safer and more effective to aim center mass.

I have taken part (playing the bad guy) in many of their con sim live shooter training. They use guns that are modified to shoot little paint bullets. The guns are very accurate to about 15 feet. You might be shocked how many bullets get shot within a 10 foot range that don't hit the target because your bodies reaction to the situation, even when it is just training, makes it difficult to aim and shoot.
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but why to kill ?
Police in the US are trained to shoot to kill. Period.
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In this case , seems like the officer is not outside the law, but still could have tried to incapacitate temporarely the " at the time " suspect .

Out of 3 shots, one hit the suspect, another the patrol cruiser ( strange ... ) and one is unacounted for .



What is strange if why those suspect walked over to the cruiser as requested by the officer instead of fleeing ... not smart .
I had a fight with a guy that was on PCP once, I hit this guy as hard as I could in the face and he hit the floor and then jumped back up, the only way I could stop the guy was to kick the guy in the side of the head as hard as I could. that finally knocked him out. the next day i found out i broke his jaw in several places and gave him a concussion.
i was there to protect an old friend from her boyfriend.
Cops have to go up against that all the time,That why if they have to shoot, it's to kill
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Dawg, if you pointed a gun at me, and I have a gun...I'm blowing your fucking brains out before you do it to me (that's the story right now)...and if true, I see no problem with it.
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I had a fight with a guy that was on PCP once, I hit this guy as hard as I could in the face and he hit the floor and then jumped back up, the only way I could stop the guy was to kick the guy in the side of the head as hard as I could. that finally knocked him out. the next day i found out i broke his jaw in several places and gave him a concussion.
i was there to protect an old friend from her boyfriend.
Cops have to go up against that all the time,That why if they have to shoot, it's to kill
Really? I'd be scared to kick a person in the head, as hard as I could. There'd be no talk of broken jaws. That would be that.
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How come cops never shoot black guys near the library?
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