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Old 01-14-2015, 10:25 PM   #1
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Yes, This Shit is Real: Don't Let Artificial Intelligence Take Over, Top Scientists Warn

"Artificial intelligence has the potential to make lives easier by understanding human desires or driving people's cars, but if it were uncontrolled, the technology could pose a serious threat to society. Now, Stephen Hawking, Elon Musk and dozens of other top scientists and technology leaders have signed a letter warning of the potential dangers of developing artificial intelligence (AI).

In addition to heavyweights like Hawking and Musk, the prominent physicist and billionaire founder of SpaceX and Tesla Motors, the letter was signed by top researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Google and other institutions."

Full article: Don't Let Artificial Intelligence Take Over, Top Scientists Warn
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:35 PM   #2
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Behind the mask, they're so scared by the knowledge & ability they currently have that they want us to stop them before industry forces them to push forward.

Remember when the internet first became active and it took over a decade for laws & regulations to begin to catch up. Then mobile phone apps, the law still hasn't caught up.

Business & technology are way ahead of the game now and the brains behind the brawn are saying "stop us before it's too late"
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:42 PM   #3
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it depends on how we gon use it. as long as we dont let them take over us i dont see any threat.
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:54 PM   #4
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it depends on how we gon use it. as long as we dont let them take over us i dont see any threat.
The "recent" social media wildfire was the game changer for AI

Group cognition: Computer support for building collaborative knowledge MIT paper in 2006 that was seemingly the basic blueprint for FB & others RE group cognition.

The next evolution of FB

The information ecology of Social Media and Online Communities

Before being diverted into porn I was a mechanical engineering / comp si major going for a robotics degree. Love following this stuff.
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Old 01-15-2015, 03:46 AM   #5
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Old 01-15-2015, 04:08 AM   #6
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Behind the mask, they're so scared by the knowledge & ability they currently have that they want us to stop them before industry forces them to push forward.
Industry forces? How? With a gun? Doesn't seem very plausible. They are grown up, smart guys, I am sure they can keep their own mind.

About the threat, I agree.
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Old 01-15-2015, 04:58 AM   #7
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its not AI that I am afraid of its the propensity of the US corporate army to invest billions upon billions of $$ in killing machines, that ultimately get controlled by computers...war keeps US corporate interests safe, there are no two ways about this, with unmanned drones being developed, to bring "freedom" (LOL) to corporate interests of US companies abroad, the human factor will play less and less of a role in modern US colonialism eeeeer I meant so say warfare

now think of the moment when the AI becomes self aware...it will probably happen in some US Lab...the first thing it will come in contact with is US bullshit...it does not take a hawking to predict the outcome
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Old 01-15-2015, 05:17 AM   #8
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ensuring the ethical behavior of autonomous machines and weapons
The ethical behavoir of "Autonomous Weapons"

Take the loaded gun away from the monkeys and give the loaded gun the ability to make life and death decisions about the monkeys.

SHIT... No one needs to be a "Top Scientist" to see how this is going to play out.
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Industry forces? How? With a gun? Doesn't seem very plausible. They are grown up, smart guys, I am sure they can keep their own mind.

About the threat, I agree.
All it needs is greed and time. Everyone could be sitting behind that dam called ethics. One company moves forward on it and then more jump on board and suddenly were drowning in it. It's inevitable. I think that they want safeguards in place for when that happens.
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Old 01-15-2015, 06:55 AM   #10
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Im more concerned about a new company called "cyberdyne systems"
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its not AI that I am afraid of its the propensity of the US corporate army to invest billions upon billions of $$ in killing machines, that ultimately get controlled by computers...war keeps US corporate interests safe, there are no two ways about this, with unmanned drones being developed, to bring "freedom" (LOL) to corporate interests of US companies abroad, the human factor will play less and less of a role in modern US colonialism eeeeer I meant so say warfare

now think of the moment when the AI becomes self aware...it will probably happen in some US Lab...the first thing it will come in contact with is US bullshit...it does not take a hawking to predict the outcome
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Old 01-15-2015, 07:03 AM   #12
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What is the real difference between a Roman Empire area siege engine and a Predator Drone -- I contend none. We just have better perfected killing devices.
What is the real difference between the iRobot Roomba and a futuristic Jetson's "Rosy the Maid" house keeping robot? I contend none. Just technological progression.

The law of Robots (AI)
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  2. Do not create new robots (reproduce or create mutant AI).
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Old 01-15-2015, 07:08 AM   #13
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All it needs is greed and time. Everyone could be sitting behind that dam called ethics. One company moves forward on it and then more jump on board and suddenly were drowning in it. It's inevitable. I think that they want safeguards in place for when that happens.
It's impossible to put those safeguards in place when we're talking about creating an intelligence greater than our own, once you open pandora's box you can't close it again.

You're quite right though, it'll be the equivalent of a nuclear arms race with AI and it'll become uncontrollable

Once the point of Singularity is reached the best we can hope for as an outcome like in the end of the film Her (2013)

There are some interesting and disturbing videos about the progress in AI, according to this video up to 80% of all jobs could be performed by AI in the not too distant future

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All it needs is greed and time. Everyone could be sitting behind that dam called ethics. One company moves forward on it and then more jump on board and suddenly were drowning in it. It's inevitable. I think that they want safeguards in place for when that happens.
Unless it is illegal. It makes at least the marketing a more difficult. "Don't buy illegal."
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Old 01-15-2015, 07:16 AM   #15
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  2. Do not create new robots (reproduce or create mutant AI).
Hmm.. doesn't fit that well to the mentioned siege machines and predator drones.

And if it's really AI, it might get other ideas. You know, we humans too are "programmed" to all kinds of stuff, but there is always mutations and such. For example I am having this conversation as I am "programmed" to be social, and needing social interaction, but there are exceptions too; some "programming errors".
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Old 01-15-2015, 07:25 AM   #16
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wish i could live to see it. a race of intelligent machines, which have no limits to where they can go, can explore & inhabit the universe. They would easily survive outside earth & would not be threatened by earth extinction level events.

so what when they kill us? we killed off the neanderthals, & are in the process of killing off most other animals in the world. that's life.

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so what when they kill us? we killed off the neanderthals. that's life.

We didn't kill neanderthals. Also, at least I concern me being killed or not, same for the humanity altogether. That is not so common for example to predators to think that way: "Hey, I kill, so who cares if I get killed." Everybody kills, at least every organism that is more complex than few cells or something like that. Still, most want to live, the few ones only die to reproduce, and even fewer nutcases actually kill themselves.
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robotic people see robots everywhere. i hope that super-intelligent robots herd and control all the robotic people out there and keep then out of the way of us want to enjoy being simply human.
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