Kicking dogs

[Rochard]

At a small party the other night I met a local resident who kicked a dog and seemed rather fine with it.

She was out for a walk when a dog off leash ran up to her. She felt threatened and decided to kick the dog in the mouth. Is that proper? Illegal?

I walk / run / cycle the trails in my town every day (I biked 37 miles today!) and every day I come across dogs off leash. Not once have I had to kick a dog.

[TTI-Rich]

Originally Posted by Rochard

She was out for a walk when a dog off leash ran up to her. She felt threatened and decided to kick the dog in the mouth.

You've answered your own question.

[L-Pink]

Any non retard over the age of 15 should be able to tell if a dog is running up to say hey man check out this stick I found, what's up, scratch my ears please or aggressively running up to bite you.

Rub the first one's head kick the other one.


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[Spunky]

If the dog was aggressive I would feel threatened too,gotta protect yourself

[CPA-Rush]

no, i care about dogs feelings

[Phoenix]

If she felt threatened it is hard to fault her.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

If she felt threatened it is hard to fault her.

That's what she says. However, dogs run up to people every day. They don't, they run. Oddly enough I've never felt threatened enough by a dog to feel the need to kick them before they do anything.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That's what she says. However, dogs run up to people every day. They don't, they run. Oddly enough I've never felt threatened enough by a dog to feel the need to kick them before they do anything.

Dogs bite people everyday. I get that you are not ok with it but it happens so she is not a wacko if that is what you really are asking.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That's what she says. However, dogs run up to people every day. They don't, they run. Oddly enough I've never felt threatened enough by a dog to feel the need to kick them before they do anything.

It depends. What kind of dog was it? Was the owner of the dog nearby?

If I'm out walking and someone with a pitbull even walks by me I keep my hand on a weapon ready to go in case I need it. It's very easy for the dog to get loose and if a pitbull is coming at me I'm probably not going to take any chances. I'm not a jerk but those things can kill you or seriously maim you in seconds.

Now if it was some poodle wagging his tail in broad daylight then maybe she was out of line.

[aka123]

If you feel threatened you have the right to nuke everybody. That amendment of something says so. You are not supposed to have any skills to make wise decisions. You have a right to be and act like a retard.

Although in my country it doesn't matter what you did feel; it matters what you could be expected to feel. In addition to that you are expected to make wise decisions. I support that.

[J. Falcon]

If a dog is aggressive and wants to hurt you, is it even a good idea to try and kick it? It better be a strong, well aimed kick.

[bronco67]

I was walking my Lab last summer, and a dog (German Shepherd) went through his electric fence. He came running at me and I just took an aggressive stance between him and my own dog. Whatever way he tried to go, I side stepped in front of him.

I didn't even think about escalating to a kicking in the face situation, and his owner finally ran out to get him before anything bad happened.

99% of dogs are pussies, and will back down if you show them who's the boss. I agree with Falcon....kicking would make what's probably a harmless incident into a brawl or a bite. One thing I took away from watching Cesar Milan is that dogs will match your energy. If you freak out, then the dog probably will too.

[just a punk]

I love dogs (actually I love any living creature because I'm an atheist). I know they are very smart and can be much better than humans in many cases - they do no betray etc. But as any other high intellectual creatures, they can be very dangerous. So I won't feel bad to kick an angry dog or human that threaten me or others. I won't hesitate to do something like this:

[SuckOnThis]

Idiots shouldn't let their dogs run around without a leash anyway.

[k0nr4d]

Seems perfectly fine. I would have no problem kicking a dog in the head if I felt me or my family were threatened. Dogs are pack animals and you gotta show them who is boss. That being said, I'm a pretty big guy so if you're a 5 ft tall 40kg woman then best not to...

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I love dogs (actually I love any living creature because I'm an atheist). I know they are very smart and can be much better than humans in many cases - they do no betray etc. But as any other high intellectual creatures, they can be very dangerous. So I won't feel bad to kick an angry dog or human that threaten me or others. I won't hesitate to do something like this:

We don't have wild packs of dogs running around the US like some third world country. Even a shithole like Alabama doesn't have this problem. But in this case, a firearm would be appropriate.

Is this what they call a boring day in Russia?

[AllAboutCams]

Depends ive had a couple of dogs run up to me barking and one jumped up at my back and had me against a wall but did not bite me. Another time i had a small dog come up to me barking like mad and looked aggressive it had come near i would have kicked it. I had a pit/cross/mutt come in my garden when i was messing with my car and was fine let me pet it and off it went no problem.

[Mickey_]

If you feel threatened you do what you have to do to protect yourself while trying to inflict the least amount of damage on your attacker (in an ideal case anyhow). To me it seems like that is what she did if the dog acted in a threatening way. She did not shoot the dog, she kicked it.

By the way, like L-Pink pointed out, the "average person" should be able to make the call whether the dog is attacking or not. If it's hard to tell or there is no time to size up the situation, then I'd fault the owner of the dog, since the dog wasn't on a leash.

(ps. I'm not talking about who's legally at fault, just the common sense view of a situation like this)

[JD]

Depends on the dog and the woman's personal history with them. I have a relative that's terrified of dachshunds. He's a large man.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

At a small party the other night I met a local resident who kicked a dog and seemed rather fine with it.

She was out for a walk when a dog off leash ran up to her. She felt threatened and decided to kick the dog in the mouth. Is that proper? Illegal?

That's a strange thing to be telling people at a party. Was she saying it like she was a badass or something?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by bronco67

We don't have wild packs of dogs running around the US like some third world country. Even a shithole like Alabama doesn't have this problem. But in this case, a firearm would be appropriate.

Animals

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Squirtit

That's a strange thing to be telling people at a party. Was she saying it like she was a badass or something?

I've met this women before and it seems to come up often in conversation. I've only met her a handful of times and it seems three of them she's mentioned kicking dogs. She does seem to be bragging about it.

Yet she claims to be an animal lover.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Mickey_

If you feel threatened you do what you have to do to protect yourself while trying to inflict the least amount of damage on your attacker (in an ideal case anyhow). To me it seems like that is what she did if the dog acted in a threatening way. She did not shoot the dog, she kicked it.

By the way, like L-Pink pointed out, the "average person" should be able to make the call whether the dog is attacking or not. If it's hard to tell or there is no time to size up the situation, then I'd fault the owner of the dog, since the dog wasn't on a leash.

(ps. I'm not talking about who's legally at fault, just the common sense view of a situation like this)

I walk / run / and bike the local trail here in my town on a daily basis. Every day I come across dogs off leash. Sometimes I have my dog with me - on a leash of course - and some times dogs like to mix it up. Never in my entire life have I felt "threatened" by a dog. In the event two of them get into a fight on the trail or a dog park, you step in and break it up. Still no need to kick a dog.

It just seems to me like the worse possible thing you can do. You kick a dog it will most likely try to bite you.

[baddog]

I like dogs but if a strange dog came running up at me or my dogs a kick to the face is what happens.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've met this women before and it seems to come up often in conversation. I've only met her a handful of times and it seems three of them she's mentioned kicking dogs. She does seem to be bragging about it.

Yet she claims to be an animal lover.

[hottoddy]

I own a dog but wouldn't hesitate to defend myself quickly. With certain breeds, you don't get much time to figure out intentions. Some people walk their dog off leash (against code), and think it's just fine when they charge other people (often children) ... "Oh sorry, he just wants to play." I walk mine off leash too, where appropriate, but she's a lab and sticks to me and listens. One time jogging, I had a little ankle biter pester me and I punted it halfway across the street. The lady "walking" it 50 feet away didn't say shit.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Rochard

At a small party the other night I met a local resident who kicked a dog and seemed rather fine with it.

She was out for a walk when a dog off leash ran up to her. She felt threatened and decided to kick the dog in the mouth. Is that proper? Illegal?

I walk / run / cycle the trails in my town every day (I biked 37 miles today!) and every day I come across dogs off leash. Not once have I had to kick a dog.

Chill out it was a black dog.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by baddog

I like dogs but if a strange dog came running up at me or my dogs a kick to the face is what happens.

Really?

If a strange dog comes running up to me I.... I bend over to make myself feel less threatening and hold out my hand so the dog can sniff it. Never had the need to kick a dog.

[Choopa Phil]

Ive been bitten by an unleashed dog who happened to be my old neighbors. Was friendly and would let me pet her for over 5 years ..all it takes is one time. Since then I am not so eager to put my hand out and pet strange animals. I can understand her position to an extent

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Any non retard over the age of 15 should be able to tell if a dog is running up to say hey man check out this stick I found, what's up, scratch my ears please or aggressively running up to bite you.

Rub the first one's head kick the other one.


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its illegal in cali to let a dogg roam free. she is within her rights to do whatever is needed to get the dog away.

[sonofsam]

Such a stupid thread.

Owners fault for not leashing the dog. I also like dogs more than people.

[Sly]

I can see your mayoral campaign already.

Proud Marine. Loves Mustangs. Doesn't kick dogs. Vote Rochard.

[Varius]

Next time you see her at another party, as she approaches you, kick her in the face.

Then explain to the shocked guests that you felt threatened as she was likely approaching you to tell her dog story for the 4th + time.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I love dogs (actually I love any living creature because I'm an atheist). I know they are very smart and can be much better than humans in many cases - they do no betray etc. But as any other high intellectual creatures, they can be very dangerous. So I won't feel bad to kick an angry dog or human that threaten me or others. I won't hesitate to do something like this:

I guess there are no animal control officers in those 2nd/3rd world countries

And what does being an atheist have to do with loving or not loving animals?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Varius

Next time you see her at another party, as she approaches you, kick her in the face.

Then explain to the shocked guests that you felt threatened as she was likely approaching you to tell her dog story for the 4th + time.

stupid!

[aka123]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

its illegal in cali to let a dogg roam free. she is within her rights to do whatever is needed to get the dog away.

These two things aren't synonyms. And neither the other way around. You two are different legal entities (you and the dog owner or state if there is no owner).

In simple: if someone does something illegal; it doesn't give you automatic right to do something illegal. At least not in non-fucked up legal systems.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by Sly

I can see your mayoral campaign already.

Proud Marine. Loves Mustangs. Doesn't kick dogs. Vote Rochard.

Wow got my vote! Although the Mustang thing is a negative for me as I'm a Chevy guy.. But I also don't kick dogs.

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by baddog

I like dogs but if a strange dog came running up at me or my dogs a kick to the face is what happens.

Youre so hardcore baddog

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by aka123

These two things aren't synonyms. And neither the other way around. You two are different legal entities (you and the dog owner or state if there is no owner).

In simple: if someone does something illegal; it doesn't give you automatic right to do something illegal. At least not in non-fucked up legal systems.

believe it or not it's legal to use lethal force in most states. Philly Police Encourage Residents to Shoot Unleashed Dogs | Cop Block

use a leash or the dog is going to visit old yeller

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Really?

If a strange dog comes running up to me I.... I bend over to make myself feel less threatening and hold out my hand so the dog can sniff it. Never had the need to kick a dog.

Contrary to your allegations, most dogs do not come up running; primarily aggressive dogs do. Buddy has already been attacked once; I am not going to allow it to happen again.

[kane]

Growing up there was a house about a quarter of a mile down the street that had a dog that would chase you if you, walked, jog or rode by on your bike. Most of the time it was chained up so as you went by it would growl, bark and pull at the chain, but every now and then it would be loose. Luckily, it was never loose when I walked by, but was a couple of times when I was on my bike and it was pretty clear to see that the dog had bad intentions. It was clearly angry. On my bike I was able to outrun it. Had I been on foot I would have kicked it if he was running full speed at me snarling and growling.

Now, all that said. If a dog just jugs up to me or doesn't seem aggressive I would never consider kicking it.

[StinkyPink]

Women are very mean creatures, not nourishing like many like to say.

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by baddog

Contrary to your allegations, most dogs do not come up running; primarily aggressive dogs do. Buddy has already been attacked once; I am not going to allow it to happen again.

So what you're really trying to say is, it was was "bad dog" ?

You senile fuck

[Mickey_]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I walk / run / and bike the local trail here in my town on a daily basis. Every day I come across dogs off leash. Sometimes I have my dog with me - on a leash of course - and some times dogs like to mix it up. Never in my entire life have I felt "threatened" by a dog. In the event two of them get into a fight on the trail or a dog park, you step in and break it up. Still no need to kick a dog.

It just seems to me like the worse possible thing you can do. You kick a dog it will most likely try to bite you.

I think one of the reasons you're perplexed by her behavior is the fact that you're trying to analyze what happened as if it were you, as if you were her in that situation. But that's not the case.

You're a man, she's a woman. You're an ex-marine, she's not (assumption). Neighborhood dogs may perceive you as more dominant (and react/behave/approach accordingly), while they react differently to her. She has a period every month (assumption), you don't. How afraid are you of dogs in general and how about her? If she's more afraid, she's giving off a scent that dogs can smell. How about body language? There's a mile long list of other factors that affect a dog's behavior towards a person (including what you mentioned about how you behave when dogs approach you).

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Seems perfectly fine. I would have no problem kicking a dog in the head if I felt me or my family were threatened. Dogs are pack animals and you gotta show them who is boss. That being said, I'm a pretty big guy so if you're a 5 ft tall 40kg woman then best not to...

I agree completely. In fact I have kicked a dog in the head when it was attacking my dog at the time, it had my dog around the throat, so I kicked it in the head, then ribs and it ran off.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by kane

Growing up there was a house about a quarter of a mile down the street that had a dog that would chase you if you, walked, jog or rode by on your bike. Most of the time it was chained up so as you went by it would growl, bark and pull at the chain, but every now and then it would be loose. Luckily, it was never loose when I walked by, but was a couple of times when I was on my bike and it was pretty clear to see that the dog had bad intentions. It was clearly angry. On my bike I was able to outrun it. Had I been on foot I would have kicked it if he was running full speed at me snarling and growling.

Now, all that said. If a dog just jugs up to me or doesn't seem aggressive I would never consider kicking it.

i can picture that shit!

[GAMEFINEST]

orchard in the house

[aka123]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

believe it or not it's legal to use lethal force in most states. Philly Police Encourage Residents to Shoot Unleashed Dogs | Cop Block

use a leash or the dog is going to visit old yeller

That doesn't surprise me, but your actions and someone elses actions are still separate actions. Or like I said, in non-fucked up legal systems. I don't know, maybe you have enough fucked up legal system for that, but I doubt that. However it is worldwide joke (seriously), so who knows.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I guess there are no animal control officers in those 2nd/3rd world countries

Don't know about your obese and uneducated police state, but here in Russia most people against of the animal control in a way as you understand it. Nobody wants to kill animals. Course everything depends on regions. For example in Moscow, they catch dogs, sterilize them and release. This considered as a rather humane way of animal control.

[aka123]

Tad off-topic, but I just noticed that when it comes to the free press: US is in position 32 (has improved significantly) and Russia is at position 148. Look whose country is on the top.

Press Freedom Index 2013 - Reporters Without Borders