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Old 02-23-2015, 01:27 PM   #1
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Wow, MSNBC Is Coming Apart At The Seams

Any of you guys following this shit?

After all the left leaning hyperbole about Fox News Channel...MSNBC has really been shown to be the greedy, hypocritical pieces of garbage that I knew they were.

So far they have fired a bunch of on-air people and canceled a ton of shows.

And now Comcast & Al Sharpton are being sued in a 20 billion dollar racial discrimination suit by the National Association of African-American Owned Media!

They allege in the suit that Sharpton being hired to host his show on MSNBC was a "payoff" to keep him from opposing the merger of Comcast and Time Warner!

The suit points out that Sharpton has zero journalistic training or experience and his show is one of the lowest rated on television...but yet he retains his show for three years now!!!
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Been hoping for something like this!
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I guess it shows that there is not a big audience for far left shit. Now perhaps Fox News can implode so we can get rid of both far wing nut news stations..

As far as Sharpton he's as croupt as any politician but would be funny if the alleged suit was true. Perhaps it will shut his dumb ass up a bit. Guys like him do far more harm for black people than help them.

Then again he will just cry racism and say the man is keeping him down and his followers will eat it up. It's like christans claiming they are oppressed in the US.. They just eat it up..
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Whatever will Mark Prince do for "news" now?

All the media in the US has been sucking more and more, even CNN who used to be the most respected source has turned to more "reality" type programming and is even running a game show.
CNN anchors battle in new quiz show - CNN Video

What a fucking joke
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Any of you guys following this shit?

After all the left leaning hyperbole about Fox News Channel...MSNBC has really been shown to be the greedy, hypocritical pieces of garbage that I knew they were.

So far they have fired a bunch of on-air people and canceled a ton of shows.

And now Comcast & Al Sharpton are being sued in a 20 billion dollar racial discrimination suit by the National Association of African-American Owned Media!

They allege in the suit that Sharpton being hired to host his show on MSNBC was a "payoff" to keep him from opposing the merger of Comcast and Time Warner!

The suit points out that Sharpton has zero journalistic training or experience and his show is one of the lowest rated on television...but yet he retains his show for three years now!!!
As if Palin on Fox was such a huge media expert


but i have said several times already that i really pity you guys considering what you have as "news" sources - from outside this all looks like a fucking joke - and not even a funny one
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MSNBC has become a joke. Sometimes I'd have it on in the background while working and it was tolerable. Now you've got these jokers ( I can't even remember their name ) ok I just looked on MSNBC, jokers like Al Sharpton, Jose Diaz-Balart, Joy Reid, Ronan Farrow & Melissa Harris-Perry. Some of them practically yell at you their whole show! It's amazing they're on TV in the first place.



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As if Palin on Fox was such a huge media expert


but i have said several times already that i really pity you guys considering what you have as "news" sources - from outside this all looks like a fucking joke - and not even a funny one
Spare us your pity.
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Time to clean up. Better later than never!
And Scum Sharpton is another story.
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Without MSNBC to point out the insanity and stupidity of so many republican and right wing kooks, American politics won't be as fun anymore. Oh well! Time for another hobby.
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How much is Sharpton worth? Celebrity net worth has him at 5 million but with that A+ race card game and his shakedowns, he has to be worth 100 times that.
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Indeed. And IRS would not shake him down hard, because that would be racist.
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As if Palin on Fox was such a huge media expert


but i have said several times already that i really pity you guys considering what you have as "news" sources - from outside this all looks like a fucking joke - and not even a funny one
She never had her own daily show on Fox. She was just a guest. Just like she was a guest on every news organization out there.

As for the "news" here...quit worrying about Fox...NBC apparently is THE one to worry about. From their distortions on Dateline NBC (rigging trucks to explode), to Brian Williams lying about everything he's done, and now MSNBC...that place is looking like a total house of lies and distortions.

By the way, there are still some good places to get the news on these channels. MSNBC actually has some decent reporting in the early morning. Fox's news hour with Shepard Smith is good. Anderson Cooper and Wolf Blitzer on CNN are good. And Al Jazeera America is very good.

So basically about an hour of real news on each network per day. lol
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I guess it shows that there is not a big audience for far left shit...
No, you are assuming the whole process is clean and legit. Audiences and ratings have zero to do with it. That's not how propaganda works.

Why is MSNBC doing this? For the same reason liberal talk radio stations turn into Rush Limbaugh-carrying right-wingers overnight. The Powers That Be have decided that having the token liberal MSNBC no longer gives them the propagandic leverage they seek going into the 2016 elections. They know Hillary carries with her a big audience so they do not want what would amount to her own cable channel going into 2016. Remember, the Goal here is ALWAYS to get as close to 50-50 as the public will buy and accept as a legitimate electoral win. With MSNBC around Clinton would have a 70/30 propagandic split and the Right Wing, even with Fox, has nothing to counteract it.

See, if Hillary has a 70/30 electoral win then how could the propaganda machine convince Americans and the rest of the World that the Republican, whoever that may be, won? Think clearly, play chess people.

BTW: This has nothing to do with Left or Right, it's all about balance. Corporations hate any kind of disruption in revenue flow. Remember that.

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but i have said several times already that i really pity you guys considering what you have as "news" sources - from outside this all looks like a fucking joke - and not even a funny one
The way Germany looked to the outside world in 1938. Point well taken.
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What's the big shake-up? I just checked the website and it looks like they still have Chris Matthews, Ed Schulz, and Rachel Maddow on air for the foreseeable future. I don't see how whatever it is that they're doing can be truly considered a shake-up unless it involves one of them.
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I guess it shows that there is not a big audience for far left shit. Now perhaps Fox News can implode so we can get rid of both far wing nut news stations..

As far as Sharpton he's as croupt as any politician but would be funny if the alleged suit was true. Perhaps it will shut his dumb ass up a bit. Guys like him do far more harm for black people than help them.

Then again he will just cry racism and say the man is keeping him down and his followers will eat it up. It's like christans claiming they are oppressed in the US.. They just eat it up..
Fox has a ton of viewers because old people don't go out of the house. Their viewers are all old people....get it?
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Without MSNBC to point out the insanity and stupidity of so many republican and right wing kooks, American politics won't be as fun anymore. Oh well! Time for another hobby.
Don't fret, you can still get your political talking points from the same place MSNBC got all theirs. Democrats.org

And instead of watching Fox News just go where they get all theirs. https://www.gop.com/

Gotta keep that left/right battle going on or we may actually begin to question what our government is doing, and that cannot be allowed.

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I like Rachel Maddow, but I'll agree that Al Sharpton is a piece of garbage. And he has zero talent for a TV show.
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how was the tranny you ended up picking?
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No, you are assuming the whole process is clean and legit. Audiences and ratings have zero to do with it. That's not how propaganda works.

Why is MSNBC doing this? For the same reason liberal talk radio stations turn into Rush Limbaugh-carrying right-wingers overnight. The Powers That Be have decided that having the token liberal MSNBC no longer gives them the propagandic leverage they seek going into the 2016 elections. They know Hillary carries with her a big audience so they do not want what would amount to her own cable channel going into 2016. Remember, the Goal here is ALWAYS to get as close to 50-50 as the public will buy and accept as a legitimate electoral win. With MSNBC around Clinton would have a 70/30 propagandic split and the Right Wing, even with Fox, has nothing to counteract it.

See, if Hillary has a 70/30 electoral win then how could the propaganda machine convince Americans and the rest of the World that the Republican, whoever that may be, won? Think clearly, play chess people.

BTW: This has nothing to do with Left or Right, it's all about balance. Corporations hate any kind of disruption in revenue flow. Remember that.



The way Germany looked to the outside world in 1938. Point well taken.

I think you are over reaching on the political propaganda side of things. Simple fact is once 24/7 News networks became the norm they were always chasing ratings. Ratings mean more viewers and more money from advertisers.

This is one of the reasons if I do watch news it's usually CBS, because they don't run a 24/7 news station and don't have to chase ratings like Fox, CNN, MSNBC ect does.

This is why Fox for example pushes their hard core right wing BS. I don't think it's so much that they try to brainwash the masses (that's just a side affect) it's they are giving their viewers what they want to hear.

If you spoon feed people what they want to hear they are going to watch more and get higher ratings. If someone thinks Obama sucks, they aren't going to tune into MSNBC to hear a overtly liberal tone. They are going to tune into Fox news because Fox reassures them with their anti liberal stance.

Meanwhile some far left liberal isn't going to tune into Fox news to hear how many times one of the talking heads can say Obama sucks. They instead are going to tune into MSNBC. The problem is there just are not as many hard core left wing bats as there are right wing bats. Meaning it's not profitable to cater to the far left as there is not a big market to cater too, hence low ratings for MSNBC.
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Not as advertised.
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Fox News is successful for the same reason anyone that tries to get a rise out of people is. Those that like it listen, those that hate it listen. Those claim they hate fox news quote it more than any other source. liberals are more easily baited and respond more emotionally than conservatives. Liberal tv and radio has always failed. Bill Mahare is one of the very few to last more than a year or two and he's done it by pushing the envelope

Almost 1/2 of msnbc programming was shows like Locked Up. Shitty, depressing and repetitive - it doesn't take a tv programming genius to see the writing on the wall when a news network is showing reality tv programming to survive.
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Fox has a ton of viewers because old people don't go out of the house. Their viewers are all old people....get it?
yet in viewers, 35 to 54, they grew 5%

Fox News Channel has reached 147th consecutive month at No. 1 spot in total viewers among cable news networks, in both total day and primetime. For the first quarter of 2014, Fox News was the only cable news network to grow compared to the prior year quarter. Higher ratings translate into better advertising revenues for the cable networks.

Fox News spends roughly 45% of its programming on factual reporting, and 55% on commentary and opinion. On the other hand, MSNBC dedicates an average of 15% of its programming to factual reporting while other 85% is dominated by commentary and opinion.

Fox News Sees Continued Growth In Ratings And Subscription Fee - Forbes

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You guys are missing the point. Of course their ratings suck.
And that has nothing to do with their politics and everything to do with the hosts of the shows being un-likeable personalities.

My point in the thread is that they have just fired a ton of people AND have been outed as basically bribing Al Sharpton to not oppose the big merger.
They actually have given that clown his own show to play/pretend to be a journalist just so he won't lead any protests against them for their big corporate merger.

The hypocrisy of these elite leftists in charge there is pretty damn breathtaking.
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You guys are missing the point. Of course their ratings suck.
And that has nothing to do with their politics and everything to do with the hosts of the shows being un-likeable personalities.

My point in the thread is that they have just fired a ton of people AND have been outed as basically bribing Al Sharpton to not oppose the big merger.
They actually have given that clown his own show to play/pretend to be a journalist just so he won't lead any protests against them for their big corporate merger.

The hypocrisy of these elite leftists in charge there is pretty damn breathtaking.
If they are owned by Comcast.. whom else do you think would bribe him to keep quiet. Has nothing to do with their politics and everything to do about greedy big business..
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If they are owned by Comcast.. whom else do you think would bribe him to keep quiet. Has nothing to do with their politics and everything to do about greedy big business..
Exactly what I'm trying to say. This has nothing to do with the political leanings, or ratings...this is all about greed and hypocrisy.

It's bad enough when Fox does it. But at least making money is supposed to be what the Republicans are about.
This is the exact opposite of what the Democrat's claim to be about.
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Exactly what I'm trying to say. This has nothing to do with the political leanings, or ratings...this is all about greed and hypocrisy.

It's bad enough when Fox does it. But at least making money is supposed to be what the Republicans are about.
This is the exact opposite of what the Democrat's claim to be about.
Where do you get this making money is what Republicans are about? As in Democrat's don't run businesses or make money.

They are in business to make money, just because it's a left wing biased news company, doesn't mean the owners are left wing or liberal.. Hell considering it's Comcast I'd say they are Republicans considering how much everyone hates them..
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Where do you get this making money is what Republicans are about? As in Democrat's don't run businesses or make money.

They are in business to make money, just because it's a left wing biased news company, doesn't mean the owners are left wing or liberal.. Hell considering it's Comcast I'd say they are Republicans considering how much everyone hates them..
You know what I mean...in the world of politics Republicans are thought of as "greedy" while Democrats are always supposed to be for the "little guy"
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You know what I mean...in the world of politics Republicans are thought of as "greedy" while Democrats are always supposed to be for the "little guy"
In other words: Good Cop/Bad Cop. How do you game any system? By playing both sides duh.

Ratings do not matter, elections do not matter. What matters is CONTROL. Controlling the future, controlling costs, controlling economies, control control control. Power. Nothing else. Everything else is a smokescreen.

What can WE THE PEOPLE do about it? As long as we remain fragmented as we are, fighting over nonsense that does not really matter, not much.
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yet in viewers, 35 to 54, they grew 5%

Fox News Channel has reached 147th consecutive month at No. 1 spot in total viewers among cable news networks, in both total day and primetime. For the first quarter of 2014, Fox News was the only cable news network to grow compared to the prior year quarter. Higher ratings translate into better advertising revenues for the cable networks.

Fox News spends roughly 45% of its programming on factual reporting, and 55% on commentary and opinion. On the other hand, MSNBC dedicates an average of 15% of its programming to factual reporting while other 85% is dominated by commentary and opinion.

Fox News Sees Continued Growth In Ratings And Subscription Fee - Forbes



get it?
You're barking the praises of a network full of airbags who constantly say dumb shit?
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MSNBC, CNN, FOX News are not of any real importance to me. I am not interested in biased or yellow page (now called drama) reporting of factual issues. They are a joke and an insult to my intelligence.

So who cares? Not me ...
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Indeed. And IRS would not shake him down hard, because that would be racist.
obama has the IRS busy going after anyone that dares to disagree with him
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yeah but would you bit her ass?
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Where do you get this making money is what Republicans are about? As in Democrat's don't run businesses or make money.

They are in business to make money, just because it's a left wing biased news company, doesn't mean the owners are left wing or liberal.. Hell considering it's Comcast I'd say they are Republicans considering how much everyone hates them..
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This country needs a REAL Progressive Left Leaning Liberal news channel. I'm not kidding.

You can't run oil, gas, fast-food, and pharmaceutical ads all day long, and think you are appealing to Progressives. You can't present ALL of the facts, or have an UNEDITED debate, for fear that you will piss off the corrupt sponsors that keep you afloat.

5 corporations run all of the media. That's not journalism, it's just propaganda. Liberal Media my ass!
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This country needs a REAL Progressive Left Leaning Liberal news channel. I'm not kidding.

You can't run oil, gas, fast-food, and pharmaceutical ads all day long, and think you are appealing to Progressives. You can't present ALL of the facts, or have an UNEDITED debate, for fear that you will piss off the corrupt sponsors that keep you afloat.

5 corporations run all of the media. That's not journalism, it's just propaganda. Liberal Media my ass!
Wouldn't the NewsHour on PBS qualify for that?
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Wouldn't the NewsHour on PBS qualify for that?
Here are two of the many public letters posted to PBS...

Dear PBS,

I don't recall NOVA doing a program dealing with climate change, which, I think is the most important scientific challenge of the time.

My real concern is that this is because of David Koch's support of the program.

If that is the case, then I believe we need a congressional investigation, but I'd like to hear your response first. Are you constrained by some "unholy" agreement with David Koch? Please come clean and let me know.

-David Waycie, Illinois

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Hello,

Your news programming and commentary segments are a very important part of information gathering for the general public. Many political and social views are represented in your reporting and interviews, contributing to a balanced exposure to the issues.

In many cases however, points of view are represented from invited commentators that promote misinformation and disinformation on many crucial topics. The following list includes many of the organizations that have been guilty of false representation on the air and in print via the public broadcasting system:

Heritage Foundation
Cato Institute
Americans for Prosperity
FreedomWorks
American Legislative Exchange Council
State Policy Network
George Mason University Foundation
Heartland Institute
American Tradition Institute
Beacon Hill Institute
Mackinac Center for Public Policy

These organizations are all connected to Koch Industries and Koch Family Foundations, through considerable influence and monetary support, in order to gain control of our political system and the commerce that Koch Industries and their subsidiaries own.

I urge you to end your association with these and any other organizations that promote untruthful dissemination. You owe it to the public that supports you, and to the nation as a whole, to be sure that any information presented through the public broadcasting system is not tainted by vested interests or originates from undue influence.

-Ron Fein
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This is the end result of the Republican party..



or Afghanistan... ie everyone has guns, no one pays taxes and everyone is a religious fanatic..
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This country needs a REAL Progressive Left Leaning Liberal news channel. I'm not kidding.

You can't run oil, gas, fast-food, and pharmaceutical ads all day long, and think you are appealing to Progressives. You can't present ALL of the facts, or have an UNEDITED debate, for fear that you will piss off the corrupt sponsors that keep you afloat.

5 corporations run all of the media. That's not journalism, it's just propaganda. Liberal Media my ass!
you actually need a news channel without any left or right propaganda...
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you actually need a news channel without any left or right propaganda...
This... 24/7 News networks and the decline of News Papers has pretty much killed journalistic integrity. It's now all about selling ad spots like some shitty ass CJ on TV..
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you actually need a news channel without any left or right propaganda...
A channel that presented REAL FACTS and JUST FACTS would quickly be interpreted as a left-leaning, liberally-biased, network.

Imagine the look on the face of the first politician to sit down and get asked unscripted, unapproved questions...

Hello Congressman Dickface, or Senator Douchewad, I'd like to ask you a few questions about who funded your campaign, and how you managed to make over $x million dollars since you arrived here in Washington DC, etc...

The "truth" will remain elusive, as long as our system is totally fucking corrupt.

The only fix is the guillotine. Once a few heads begin to roll our "elected leaders" may finally wake up from their greedy stupors.

Unfortunately voting will not fix this problem - it's too deep and it's gone too far.

Just a few heads should be enough.
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