got obama'ed today

[Grapesoda]

yup.. big time....first cypionate was $20 per bottle with my health ins... now it's $198 with the NEW health ins that's over $160 per month higher per month, with double the deductible BTW

then this: I have ocular rosacea so I need to take 250 mg Erythromycin twice a day ... no big deal a script is $20... errrrr was $20, now with Obama care $220

[Robbie]

I've never seen a bigger rip-off in my life.

I was talking to the head pharmacist at The Walgreens where we get prescriptions and he was telling me that he has never seen prices rise at this rate in his entire career.

[hottoddy]

But think of all the illegals and food stampers you're subsidizing with those premiums! Only together do we move forward. Everything for everyone, and nothing for ourselves.



Not coincidence both campaigns use the same "Forward!" message.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by hottoddy

But think of all the illegals and food stampers you're subsidizing with those premiums! Only together do we move forward. Everything for everyone, and nothing for ourselves.

Traditional leftist way - rip off the donors and give to the losers

[Robbie]

Honestly, I think that the President and the Democrats truly believed that this would really bring prices down.

I'm not sure that any of the people involved had any real world experience in business though.

I think they are as shocked as we are by what is happening.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I think the politicians can more easily afford the increases compared to the rest of us average schmos.

Fixed it for ya'.

[Rik Lear]

I just got off the phone with a dear friend of mine who is the head pharmacist at Walgreens for over 20 years (he's at work now) and I read him this post by the OP. The minute I read it, of course you're going to blame Obama.

He clearly said, and most of you should know this, is that "all of a sudden, recently.." the price of something so simple as 250mg Erythromycin skyrocketed as well as all other medicines and he said it's the industry itself.

Is this repercussive to the Affordable Care Act? Maybe so, but remember... ---> Romney ran his own Obamacare. I.e., Romneycare. And most candidates knew that healthcare had to be reformed. Shit, Hillary tried this back in the Clinton days, remember?

The first step to anything great is always birth pangs. It's a step in the right direction. Healthcare was out of control. It had to be stemmed. I know. It almost bankrupted me over 11 years.

These speed bumps will mellow out. It was never really about scripts, it was about the fucking doctors that charge STUPID FUCKING amounts of money just to sit there and write these scripts and CAT scans that cost a fucking Ferrari to pay for.

Give it some time. We are finally on the way to a different (kind of) system, and things will be shaken up. This is a basic understanding of physics. Or, to make it simple for some of you morons, it's like throwing a HUGE rock the size of a Cadillac into a lake, and not just a pebble every once-in-a while. Shit's gonna get shaken up while the ripples subside.


.

Or move to Canada or Cyprus like everyone else in this fucking industry.

[kane]

Is this a result of the insurance no longer covering this medication or is it that you have a co-pay and the medication has just gone up in price that much?

If it is the price of the medication it isn't Obamacare so much as it is pharmaceutical companies wanting to rape you and reap their 1000% profit margins.

As I said when it Obamacare first passed, the problem with it is that it does nothing to actually lower the cost of healthcare. It is just a health insurance bill.

That said, I am the opposite side of the coin. Having a pre-existing condition (asthma) I was never able to buy decent health insurance. Now I can and I can get my prescriptions filled at local pharmacies instead of having to order them online. I have much better coverage and convenience and am spending about the same as I was before when I was paying for most of my care out of pocket.

[Rik Lear]

Originally Posted by kane

Is this a result of the insurance no longer covering this medication or is it that you have a co-pay and the medication has just gone up in price that much?

If it is the price of the medication it isn't Obamacare so much as it is pharmaceutical companies wanting to rape you and reap their 1000% profit margins.

As I said when it Obamacare first passed, the problem with it is that it does nothing to actually lower the cost of healthcare. It is just a health insurance bill.

That said, I am the opposite side of the coin. Having a pre-existing condition (asthma) I was never able to buy decent health insurance. Now I can and I can get my prescriptions filled at local pharmacies instead of having to order them online. I have much better coverage and convenience and am spending about the same as I was before when I was paying for most of my care out of pocket.

Exactly Dink. Thanks for sharing. Most people seem to only watch FOX news and fill there brains with cream-of-bullshit soup.

Btw, I forgot about you. Just settled in the new house in Vancouver. I had you down to write. Let's touch base and hook up.

I'll PM you now.

[bronco67]

Look at the bright side. You live in Montana.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by kane

Is this a result of the insurance no longer covering this medication or is it that you have a co-pay and the medication has just gone up in price that much?

If it is the price of the medication it isn't Obamacare so much as it is pharmaceutical companies wanting to rape you and reap their 1000% profit margins.

As I said when it Obamacare first passed, the problem with it is that it does nothing to actually lower the cost of healthcare. It is just a health insurance bill.

That said, I am the opposite side of the coin. Having a pre-existing condition (asthma) I was never able to buy decent health insurance. Now I can and I can get my prescriptions filled at local pharmacies instead of having to order them online. I have much better coverage and convenience and am spending about the same as I was before when I was paying for most of my care out of pocket.

I'm paying more for much less coverage ... you do realize that congress and Obama exempted themselves from affordable care correct?

[kane]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I'm paying more for much less coverage ... you do realize that congress and Obama exempted themselves from affordable care correct?

Yeah, I do realize they exempted themselves from it.

I'm not saying Obamacare is great. I am just saying it worked out for me (and others) and that until there is something done about the rising cost of healthcare itself (meaning the cost of going to the doctor, medicines etc) all the health insurance reform in the world won't matter.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Rik Lear

Exactly Dink. Thanks for sharing. Most people seem to only watch FOX news and fill there brains with cream-of-bullshit soup.

Btw, I forgot about you. Just settled in the new house in Vancouver. I had you down to write. Let's touch base and hook up.

I'll PM you now.

I'm not sure who Dink is, but I responded to your PM.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by kane

Yeah, I do realize they exempted themselves from it.

I'm not saying Obamacare is great. I am just saying it worked out for me (and others) and that until there is something done about the rising cost of healthcare itself (meaning the cost of going to the doctor, medicines etc) all the health insurance reform in the world won't matter.

eventually the administration will need to stop strip mining that work....

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by kane

As I said when it Obamacare first passed, the problem with it is that it does nothing to actually lower the cost of healthcare.

That's not what what we were promised

[kane]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

That's not what what we were promised

To be honest, I don't remember them promising to lower the cost of drugs and healthcare services. I do remember them promising to lower the cost of health insurance.

To actually lower the cost of healthcare services/drugs would require wholesale changes in our system that would take a huge effort to carry out so even if they were promised, there was no chance they would have ever actually materialized.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by kane

To be honest, I don't remember them promising to lower the cost of drugs and healthcare services. I do remember them promising to lower the cost of health insurance.

Lowering the cost of healthcare was the entire reason that they did this in the first place.

The President said that the rising cost of healthcare was one of the main things that was bankrupting the government. I assume he meant because of medicare, etc.

And he said that because the cost of healthcare (caused apparently by the small percentage of people who go to the emergency room and skip out on their bills...lol) was going to go down...that the cost of our health insurance would be lowered by $2,500 per family.

My health insurance as of January is now over $1,000 a month for a family of three healthy people with a $3,000 deductible. That's up almost double for the exact same policy since the President has been in office.

EDIT: Actually it's NOT the same exact policy. In 2009-2011 my oldest daughter was still living at home and was on my insurance policy. So it was FOUR people. Now it's almost double the price and we have one less person on the policy.

[onwebcam]

ANYONE who has any brain cells whatsoever knows that if you have insurance the price is marked up at least 400% so you still end up paying nearly the same price as a non insured and/or cash person. My girlfirend didn't have insurance last year and she had to make a ER visit. As we were exiting and had to stop by the financial office the lady laid a form out in front of her and said "sign this since you don't have insurance you only pay 20%." "Dental discount" cards are a great example. I canceled my insurance after I figured out I'd pay less with a discount dental card and cash than with my "insurance." Obamacare is and has always been a huge windfall for the insurance companies (the people who actually wrote the bill) nothing more nothing less.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Fixed it for ya'.

Funny thing. They (Congress/Senate/Pres...etc) have their own private gov healthcare. I wonder what they really pay? My guess is, next to nothing.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I'm paying more for much less coverage ... you do realize that congress and Obama exempted themselves from affordable care correct?

Hehe. Criminals yes, stupid, no.

[Petra]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Honestly, I think that the President and the Democrats truly believed that this would really bring prices down.

I'm not sure that any of the people involved had any real world experience in business though.

I think they are as shocked as we are by what is happening.

Well, it would have been an excellent good start if the people involved had actually taken the time to read the bill before they went and passed it.

[jscott]

American healthcare system is the most shocking and biggest joke to the entire rest of the world. It is ridiculed at dinner tables across the globe. Sad.

[arock10]

It supposed to make healthcare affordable for people who make $30k a year not people who live in mansions and make six figures lol. Or people with preexisting conditions. Or kids over 18 but under 26. Sorry this act wasn't about you

One day we will get single payer and it'll all make a lot more sense. This is just a stepping stone

Also my insurance is a much better value then it use to be, sorry for the bad luck

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Honestly, I think that the President and the Democrats truly believed that this would really bring prices down.

I'm not sure that any of the people involved had any real world experience in business though.

I think they are as shocked as we are by what is happening.

The plan only works if everyone is on it. The young and healthy people need to subsidize the old and unhealthy. Sort of a cluster fuck from day one.

I do wonder why it was not initiated by the Republicans though. Why wouldn't they want to take health care out of the corporate realm and make American businesses more competitive? And then do it smoother.

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

yup.. big time....first cypionate was $20 per bottle with my health ins... now it's $198 with the NEW health ins that's over $160 per month higher per month, with double the deductible BTW

then this: I have ocular rosacea so I need to take 250 mg Erythromycin twice a day ... no big deal a script is $20... errrrr was $20, now with Obama care $220

Buy Erythromycin Online. Trusted Pharmacy - www.culturaycomunicacion.com 40c each.

Is it Obamacare or the insurance companies that are taking the piss?
And on a side note, you take antibiotics constantly?

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by kane

Yeah, I do realize they exempted themselves from it.

I'm not saying Obamacare is great. I am just saying it worked out for me (and others) and that until there is something done about the rising cost of healthcare itself (meaning the cost of going to the doctor, medicines etc) all the health insurance reform in the world won't matter.

The answer to that is a LOT fucking easier than ObamaCare

When a Doctor graduates and is Now a licensed MD, he should have to do 15 hours per week community work for the next 3 to 5 years.

That means free.. He is welcome to have his practice or work in someone elses office but he should be forced to do the 15 hours per week. Correctly run by each state this gives free health care to anyone that does not have insurance.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by kane

To be honest, I don't remember them promising to lower the cost of drugs and healthcare services. I do remember them promising to lower the cost of health insurance.

To actually lower the cost of healthcare services/drugs would require wholesale changes in our system that would take a huge effort to carry out so even if they were promised, there was no chance they would have ever actually materialized.

the cost of my health ins effectively doubled, so they did lie to me

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by arock10

It supposed to make healthcare affordable for people who make $30k a year not people who live in mansions and make six figures lol. Or people with preexisting conditions. Or kids over 18 but under 26. Sorry this act wasn't about you

One day we will get single payer and it'll all make a lot more sense. This is just a stepping stone

Also my insurance is a much better value then it use to be, sorry for the bad luck

so... you're a fucking loser and me and Robbie are paying your health ins, lol? too bad you don't have any balls, you could just come over with a gun and steal all my stuff

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Manfap

Buy Erythromycin Online. Trusted Pharmacy - www.culturaycomunicacion.com 40c each.

Is it Obamacare or the insurance companies that are taking the piss?
And on a side note, you take antibiotics constantly?

thank you yes the condition demands I do... been doing it for almost 14 years, there are times when I do not need to and oddly enough seems to be tied to gluten

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by jscott

American healthcare system is the most shocking and biggest joke to the entire rest of the world. It is ridiculed at dinner tables across the globe. Sad.

there is a lot of fancy machinery

but then you look at mortality rates and average lifespans and start wondering...

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

ANYONE who has any brain cells whatsoever knows that if you have insurance the price is marked up at least 400% so you still end up paying nearly the same price as a non insured and/or cash person.

Wrong.


Hospitals Charge Uninsured and ?Self-Pay? Patients More than Double What Insured Patients Pay

[arock10]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

so... you're a fucking loser and me and Robbie are paying your health ins, lol? too bad you don't have any balls, you could just come over with a gun and steal all my stuff

You might want to use that expensive obamacare to get your mental capacity checked if this is the conclusion you made from my post. Or your mental capacity is ok (relatively) you are just another angry old white man

in the words of the now covered college students... U MAAAAAD

[arock10]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

so... you're a fucking loser and me and Robbie are paying your health ins, lol? too bad you don't have any balls, you could just come over with a gun and steal all my stuff

Oh and also you sure bitch about how expensive stuff is enough. Maybe you should work harder to make more money instead of just sitting there complaining... you know, how all the freeloaders apparently behave that you hate

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by arock10

Oh and also you sure bitch about how expensive stuff is enough. Maybe you should work harder to make more money instead of just sitting there complaining... you know, how all the freeloaders apparently behave that you hate

so your thinking is me working 60-70 hours a week isn't enough and I should work 100 hours a week to cover your bills?

let me guess, we OWE it to you, to support you because you're so fucking amazing? and the world couldn't possibly do without you?

here's a clue fuck mouth: people that live in gated estates and make six figures work their fucking asses off... if you weren't such a low life loser you would know that...

or is it you aren't smart enough to put that together??? enquiring minds want to know.....

[poncabare]

gotta pay for all the dead beats who refuse to work

[arock10]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

so your thinking is me working 60-70 hours a week isn't enough and I should work 100 hours a week to cover your bills?

let me guess, we OWE it to you, to support you because you're so fucking amazing? and the world couldn't possibly do without you?

here's a clue fuck mouth: people that live in gated estates and make six figures work their fucking asses off... if you weren't such a low life loser you would know that...

or is it you aren't smart enough to put that together??? enquiring minds want to know.....

you are the one complaining on things being expensive, so yeah, maybe you should work 100 hours a week

I'm not sure why you think you are covering my bills. I certainly have no subsidy on my health insurance. It sounds like I should be kicking you a few dollars, since clearly you are struggling to pay for your medication

But yes, I do believe we should be subsidizing the numerous people working two shitty jobs for 60+ hours a week barely making ends meet. Unfortunately select extremely wealthy individuals and companies have brainwashed you into thinking everyone not making $100k+ a year is a deadbeat freeloader with 10 kids living off government handouts

[jscott]

Rabies vaccine in Vietnam = $5 per injection

Rabies vaccine in USA = either
a. Not available without insurance
or
b. $9,000 for the series of 3-5 shots

go figure

[iSpyCams]

Think about it, what if a law was passed to deal with piracy where all Americans were required to maintain a qualifying porn subscription. Do you think pornsites would charge more or less?

Obviously we would all charge as much as we could get away with and deliver as little as possible in exchange. So obviously health insurance has done the same.

[Oracle Porn]

Originally Posted by jscott

Rabies vaccine in Vietnam = $5 per injection

Rabies vaccine in USA = either
a. Not available without insurance
or
b. $9,000 for the series of 3-5 shots

go figure

Price of human life in Vietnam = $5 as well no?

[arock10]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Think about it, what if a law was passed to deal with piracy where all Americans were required to maintain a qualifying porn subscription. Do you think pornsites would charge more or less?

Obviously we would all charge as much as we could get away with and deliver as little as possible in exchange. So obviously health insurance has done the same.

not a very good comparison as there is actually competition in porn, not nearly as much in insurance

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by arock10

not a very good comparison as there is actually competition in porn, not nearly as much in insurance

What cuts down on competition in insurance is heavy regulation. And with Obamacare, they accepted heavier regulation in exchange for compulsory policies for everyone.

The amount of viable sponsors in adult is lower all the time. The failure rate for new sites and startups has got to be around 99%, as is the % of abandoned or non maintained adult sites out there. Factor in acquisitions and personally I believe we really are seeing a smaller group of profitable adult companies that continues to shrink.

With heavy regulation on a federal level we might see even less. Hell, even with actual enforcement of existing regs like 2257 audits and FTC inquiries we might see a huge drop in the total # of US based sponsors.

Take away everyone who's flying under the radar or sitting offshore not giving a fuck or stealing content or no longer updating or owned by Manwin or focused on Dating and you might have a pretty small group left.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by arock10

But yes, I do believe we should be subsidizing the numerous people working two shitty jobs for 60+ hours a week barely making ends meet.

You lost me there.

I shouldn't be paying for ANYTHING for anyone else unless I CHOOSE to contribute to charity.

The problem isn't solved by FORCING people against their will to take the money that they earned for their family and pay for other people to go to the doctor.

The problem IS that the doctor visit, prescription meds, and hospital costs are many times HIGHER in the United States than anywhere else in the world.

I can literally walk across the border from San Diego to Tijuana and go to a pharmacy there and get my prescriptions for a fraction of the cost.

Any of you who have let the govt. scare you into driving 2 miles across the border into Tijuana would be shocked to see that it's full of clinics, hospitals, doctors, and pharmacies.
Most of the doctors live in San Diego (U.S. licensed doctors).

They are packed with patients. From elective surgery to life threatening surgery. If you are paying $10,000 in San Diego in the U.S. to have it done...drive 5 minutes south and you'll get the same exact thing done for $3,000. And you can get your prescription filled for a fraction of the cost.

The ripoff of the American people is the problem here.

[arock10]

Originally Posted by Robbie

You lost me there.

I shouldn't be paying for ANYTHING for anyone else unless I CHOOSE to contribute to charity.

The problem isn't solved by FORCING people against their will to take the money that they earned for their family and pay for other people to go to the doctor.

The problem IS that the doctor visit, prescription meds, and hospital costs are many times HIGHER in the United States than anywhere else in the world.

I can literally walk across the border from San Diego to Tijuana and go to a pharmacy there and get my prescriptions for a fraction of the cost.

Any of you who have let the govt. scare you into driving 2 miles across the border into Tijuana would be shocked to see that it's full of clinics, hospitals, doctors, and pharmacies.
Most of the doctors live in San Diego (U.S. licensed doctors).

They are packed with patients. From elective surgery to life threatening surgery. If you are paying $10,000 in San Diego in the U.S. to have it done...drive 5 minutes south and you'll get the same exact thing done for $3,000. And you can get your prescription filled for a fraction of the cost.

The ripoff of the American people is the problem here.

yes american healthcare is way over priced, but that isn't an obamacare problem, that already existed. Also to a certain extent we subsidize the rest of the world healthcare costs by overcharging americans, just like we subsidize many countries militaries by overcharging americans for it.

"I shouldn't be paying for ANYTHING for anyone else unless I CHOOSE to contribute to charity." so everyone should have to opt in to roads and other infastructure, army, etc? Completely and totally unrealistic outlook that would more or less put us into a state of anarchy

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by arock10

yes american healthcare is way over priced, but that isn't an obamacare problem, that already existed. Also to a certain extent we subsidize the rest of the world healthcare costs by overcharging americans, just like we subsidize many countries militaries by overcharging americans for it.

"I shouldn't be paying for ANYTHING for anyone else unless I CHOOSE to contribute to charity." so everyone should have to opt in to roads and other infastructure, army, etc? Completely and totally unrealistic outlook that would more or less put us into a state of anarchy

this is interesting: my health care was canceled due to the new 'affordable health care act' pretty sure I could find a clip of obama saying 'you can keep your policy' with very little effort.... the new policy cost more with less benefit....you say that has nothing to do with Obama care?

I think you have no concept of how a business operates.... first thing for you to realize is that mega corporations clear anywhere between 2.5%-4.3 % of the gross... CEO's have their time slotted in 15-30 min increments from early am until late night... CEO's probably sleep 6 hours a night if lucky... when you see a Walmart what do you think? I think about all the personal time and effort it took on someone's part to set that up, and continue to run the organization... I'm very sure this has never occurred to you...from the things you state here at GFY I don't imagine you as a small business owner....


for me I start working at 4am and stop about 7-8pm on slow days... I do all the booking, all the editing stills and video and all the shooting stills and video, plus all the maintenance on the gear.... my gross is $xxx,xxx.00 and my net is low $xxx.xxx.00 and getting lower due to the condom laws in LA... my gross has dropped 34% per year the last 2 years and my tax bracket is 53%... I thought is was 43.7% but it's over 50%.

health care cost are not a tax write off until I spend 35K then I get a small % of a deduction. raising my health ins and prescription cost come directly off my net.... say another 10K-12K per year... that affect my daughter and her collage, my daughter had to drop out of collage this year due to my finances... (BTW I'm very sure you don't care about me or my family) basically the government has taken another 10%-15% of my income but will not call it a tax...

and yet you tell me I need to worry about some guys with no marketable skills with 10 kids.... what about my family.... I'm working +/- 80 hours per week.... why do they have 10 kids? were they thinking fuck it, I'll have all the kids I want and rich Americans will pay for them?

see what I mean? your position seems to that the responsibility of the responsible is to cover the cost of the irresponsible... and this seems to be Obama's position as well... in the long term this is not a sustainable policy.... you see that don't you?

[JJ Gold]

Originally Posted by jscott

American healthcare system is the most shocking and biggest joke to the entire rest of the world. It is ridiculed at dinner tables across the globe. Sad.

Most of the world consists of no count starving losers! Laugh it up motherfuckers!

[JJ Gold]

Originally Posted by arock10

One day we will get single payer and it'll all make a lot more sense. This is just a stepping stone

Fuck you Commie!

[arock10]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

this is interesting: my health care was canceled due to the new 'affordable health care act' pretty sure I could find a clip of obama saying 'you can keep your policy' with very little effort.... the new policy cost more with less benefit....you say that has nothing to do with Obama care?

I think you have no concept of how a business operates.... first thing for you to realize is that mega corporations clear anywhere between 2.5%-4.3 % of the gross... CEO's have their time slotted in 15-30 min increments from early am until late night... CEO's probably sleep 6 hours a night if lucky... when you see a Walmart what do you think? I think about all the personal time and effort it took on someone's part to set that up, and continue to run the organization... I'm very sure this has never occurred to you...from the things you state here at GFY I don't imagine you as a small business owner....


for me I start working at 4am and stop about 7-8pm on slow days... I do all the booking, all the editing stills and video and all the shooting stills and video, plus all the maintenance on the gear.... my gross is $xxx,xxx.00 and my net is low $xxx.xxx.00 and getting lower due to the condom laws in LA... my gross has dropped 34% per year the last 2 years and my tax bracket is 53%... I thought is was 43.7% but it's over 50%.

health care cost are not a tax write off until I spend 35K then I get a small % of a deduction. raising my health ins and prescription cost come directly off my net.... say another 10K-12K per year... that affect my daughter and her collage, my daughter had to drop out of collage this year due to my finances... (BTW I'm very sure you don't care about me or my family) basically the government has taken another 10%-15% of my income but will not call it a tax...

and yet you tell me I need to worry about some guys with no marketable skills with 10 kids.... what about my family.... I'm working +/- 80 hours per week.... why do they have 10 kids? were they thinking fuck it, I'll have all the kids I want and rich Americans will pay for them?

see what I mean? your position seems to that the responsibility of the responsible is to cover the cost of the irresponsible... and this seems to be Obama's position as well... in the long term this is not a sustainable policy.... you see that don't you?

All I see is lots of complaining and you making a whole hell of a lot of assumptions.

Also, have you noticed content production isn't exactly the place to be these days? Maybe its not Obama's fault things have gotten harder for you, but simply the shift in the industry you are in. Adult has gotten a lot more difficult for a lot of people with people leaving in droves. You know the saying, work smarter not harder...

The amount of people making six figures in adult today vs 5-10 years ago is vastly different

also "BTW I'm very sure you don't care about me or my family" is basically what you are saying about everyone else's family. Why I am for obamacare because it benefits the people that need it most... not me.

[arock10]

Originally Posted by JJ Gold

Fuck you Commie!

damn didnt realize every other western nation and many other nations in the worlds were communist too

[MiamiBoyz]

My mother used to say:

"If you can't say something nice about a person then fuck it and just tell the truth about what a fucking asshole they really are!"

[aka123]

Thank you the "free" competition in the form of insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies. That is the kind of things USA is built on.. or something.