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brassmonkey · 03-09-2015, 08:15 AM

Whatever one thinks of the President Obama?s aggressive executive action on immigration?which is still being litigated in the courts?tax refunds for the effected illegal immigrants has itself become controversial. The IRS says that illegals can file and claim refunds for the last three years under the Earned Income Tax Credit. That is the same refundable tax credit that is responsible for billions in fraudulent refunds. IRS Commissioner Koskinen confirmed this, explaining the seemingly bizarre result to Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa).

What if you never had any income or never filed a return? Under President Obama?s executive action, an illegal immigrant can (1) get a Social Security number, (2) claim the Earned Income Tax Credit for the three open tax years, and (3) IRS sends three years of tax refunds. No matter that you never paid taxes, never filed a return, worked off the books, etc.

The IRS says this is the way the Earned Income Tax Credit works. IRS Chief Koskinen says the IRS is following a 15-year-old opinion that ?a taxpayer may claim the Earned Income Tax Credit for a taxable year using a social security number (SSN) acquired in a later taxable year.? Calling the three year tax refund perk a mockery of the law, Senator Grassley noted that illegals would be able to claim billions of dollars in tax benefits.

Sen. Grassley vowed legislation to overturn the IRS position. ? The tax code shouldn?t reward those who broke our immigration laws,? he said. So far, the President hasn?t backed down, so U.S. Rep. Patrick McHenry has introduced a bill to keep undocumented workers from receiving the Earned Income Tax Credit, a benefit for low- to moderate-income taxpayers.

Tax Refunds To Illegals Under Obama Immigration Action Would Be Stopped By Bill - Forbes

L-Pink · 03-09-2015, 08:17 AM

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Most of them file already using stolen SS#'s. This will just be an added bonus.

MetaMan · 03-09-2015, 08:44 AM

Makes me sick. Lets punish the people doing it legally, have them pay thousands in fees and wait years to be with their families. But the poor poor illegals! WAH WAH.

Socialists are such pigs.

Barry-xlovecam · 03-09-2015, 09:07 AM

Congressman wants to block tax credit for illegal immigrants - Gaston Gazette

This gets more bizarre.

The earned income credit should only be paid to persons working legally.

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What?s at issue? When Obama made the executive order in November, he gave illegal immigrants a chance to apply for ?deferred action.? People approved are given a temporary reprieve from deportation and the ability to apply for work permits.
The action allowed many to obtain work permits and Social Security numbers and therefore pay taxes.
That allows such workers to file for tax breaks such as the Earned Income Tax Credit, according to a statement by the IRS.
Those here under deferred action can apply for tax breaks going back three years, which could add up to $24,000 maximum.

No law can be "ex post facto"
No...ex post facto Law shall be passed.

ARTICLE I, SECTION 9, CLAUSE 3

But that is for crimes (and torts).

So, there does have to be a law passed to regulate after the fact tax refunds unearned however gained by either law or executive order.

This is not just an immigration law issue.
Say a corporation depleting oil reserves were to be given a retro-active tax subsidy by administrative law (regulators) or by executive order ... This law I am proposing would prevent that also. It's not anti immigrant it's anti retroactive gain at government/taxpayer expense for any "special" party.

Imortyl Pussycat · 03-09-2015, 09:18 AM

who is going to end up paying more taxes after the illegals put us in further deficit?.....oh wait...that would be me.

brassmonkey · 03-09-2015, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat

who is going to end up paying more taxes after the illegals put us in further deficit?.....oh wait...that would be me.

Citizen Militias are going to have to take care of the problem.

Vendzilla · 03-09-2015, 10:02 AM

I'd move to canada, but it's too fucking cold there

arock10 · 03-09-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I'd move to canada, but it's too fucking cold there

Move to Mexico?

MassMarketing · 03-09-2015, 10:44 AM

As long as someone pays their taxes they aren't illegal in my book.

MetaMan · 03-09-2015, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MassMarketing

As long as someone pays their taxes they aren't illegal in my book.

so they come to the country illegally and they are not illegals?

are you a fucking idiot?

baddog · 03-09-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

so they come to the country illegally and they are not illegals?

are you a fucking idiot?

Rhetorical question I presume.

Vendzilla · 03-09-2015, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10

Move to Mexico?

Too many cartels and I don't want t learn spanish . I am thinking about moving to another state in a few years

arock10 · 03-09-2015, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Too many cartels and I don't want t learn spanish . I am thinking about moving to another state in a few years

but by then obama will be gone so you'll be safe

Dvae · 03-09-2015, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10

but by then obama will be gone

You assume too much!

03-09-2015, 08:15 AM	#1
brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 77,188	Tax Refunds To Illegals Under Obama Immigration Action Would Be Stopped By Bill Whatever one thinks of the President Obama?s aggressive executive action on immigration?which is still being litigated in the courts?tax refunds for the effected illegal immigrants has itself become controversial. The IRS says that illegals can file and claim refunds for the last three years under the Earned Income Tax Credit. That is the same refundable tax credit that is responsible for billions in fraudulent refunds. IRS Commissioner Koskinen confirmed this, explaining the seemingly bizarre result to Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa). What if you never had any income or never filed a return? Under President Obama?s executive action, an illegal immigrant can (1) get a Social Security number, (2) claim the Earned Income Tax Credit for the three open tax years, and (3) IRS sends three years of tax refunds. No matter that you never paid taxes, never filed a return, worked off the books, etc. The IRS says this is the way the Earned Income Tax Credit works. IRS Chief Koskinen says the IRS is following a 15-year-old opinion that ?a taxpayer may claim the Earned Income Tax Credit for a taxable year using a social security number (SSN) acquired in a later taxable year.? Calling the three year tax refund perk a mockery of the law, Senator Grassley noted that illegals would be able to claim billions of dollars in tax benefits. Sen. Grassley vowed legislation to overturn the IRS position. ? The tax code shouldn?t reward those who broke our immigration laws,? he said. So far, the President hasn?t backed down, so U.S. Rep. Patrick McHenry has introduced a bill to keep undocumented workers from receiving the Earned Income Tax Credit, a benefit for low- to moderate-income taxpayers. Tax Refunds To Illegals Under Obama Immigration Action Would Be Stopped By Bill - Forbes __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law! DACA ENDED - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

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MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	Makes me sick. Lets punish the people doing it legally, have them pay thousands in fees and wait years to be with their families. But the poor poor illegals! WAH WAH. Socialists are such pigs.