Meanwhile in Russia: Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov reported killed in Moscow

[Horatio Caine]

Unfortunately not a dash cam video or new wall rug design

MOSCOW ? Boris Nemtsov, a longtime Russian opposition leader and sharp critic of President Vladimir Putin, was shot and killed in central Moscow, the Russian Interior Ministry said early Saturday.


Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov reported killed in Moscow - The Washington Post

[pornmasta]

fucking chechens

[TheSquealer]

Waiting for CyberSEO to comment on how amazing and free Russia is before commenting!...

[Sly]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Waiting for CyberSEO to comment on how amazing and free Russia is before commenting!...

Simple.

Boris was free to walk Moscow. Man in Moscow was free to shoot Boris.

Freedom!

[Mutt]

Gangsters gonna be gangsters.

[dyna mo]

The murder opened a dramatic and violent new chapter in the life of Russia?s persecuted opposition movement, which has struggled to find its footing during a wave of nationalistic fervor unleashed by the annexation of Ukraine?s semiautonomous Crimea region last year. Many leaders have been marginalized with prison terms or other forms of harassment, and public rhetoric has grown extremely aggressive toward those who deviate from the majority line.

free russia.

[Mutt]

Sounds like this guy would have been a great choice to lead Russia.

Nemtsov was a political star in the early post-Soviet days, when most Russians still dreamed of democracy ? a young, energetic and smart physicist-turned-politician who charmed voters and won high approval ratings as a regional governor. For a time, he was seen as a likely heir to President Boris Yeltsin.

Instead, Putin assumed the presidency and set about relentlessly marginalizing his opponents.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Sly

Simple.

Boris was free to walk Moscow. Man in Moscow was free to shoot Boris.

Freedom!

And its cheaper to buy AK-47 ammunition in dollars because your national currency took gigantic devaluation dump.

[TheSquealer]

I was in Moscow when the governor of the Magadan region was executed. A pretty sobering moment for sure... when guys just step out in front of a governors vehicle and open fire. I mean... Open freedom.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

free russia.

explain how it is useful for putin's politics

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

explain how it is useful for putin's politics

fuck, i already am OTR claiming i don't know jack shit about russian politics, why am I being called on again to explain it?

[dyna mo]

A year earlier, Putin warned publicly that his opponents were prepared to murder one of their own so they could blame him for the death.

“They are looking for a so-called sacrificial victim among some prominent figures,” Putin, a former KGB agent, told a gathering of the All-Russia Popular Front, a group organized to support him, ahead of Russia’s 2012 presidential election. “They will knock him off, I beg your pardon, and then blame the authorities for that.”

[Horatio Caine]

Stop hating freedom

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Sly

Simple.

Boris was free to walk Moscow. Man in Moscow was free to shoot Boris.

Freedom!

Only in Russia

[CAHEK]

[klinton]

IMO its too obvious that Putin would do it. guy would have to be completely out of his fucking mind, thats all.
he wont profit from that death, only lose.

[klinton]

triple false flag, spotted by dyna-mo

Originally Posted by dyna mo

A year earlier, Putin warned publicly that his opponents were prepared to murder one of their own so they could blame him for the death.

?They are looking for a so-called sacrificial victim among some prominent figures,? Putin, a former KGB agent, told a gathering of the All-Russia Popular Front, a group organized to support him, ahead of Russia?s 2012 presidential election. ?They will knock him off, I beg your pardon, and then blame the authorities for that.?

[SekobA]

His will happen on the every next opposition leader

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by klinton

triple false flag, spotted by dyna-mo

That was a quote from the op article, I can't take credit for it.

[~Evilin~]

Only stupids can believe that putin was planning it.
и да, я не пью водку)

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

fucking chechens

Maybe Chechens, maybe these, maybe these and maybe those. All of them could do it with a rather the same probability. Putin has consolidated the most radical scum and feed it with money and with hate to his opponents.

I don't think Nemtsov was killed by direct order of Putin simply because it's not in Putin's interests, especially right before planned anti-Putin march tomorrow (now the situation may turn very bad for Putin). But I still blame Putin for that because that murder was a direct consequence of his stupid politic of feeding people with hate via Federal media. He is the only person who in charge for that crime and there is no doubt about it.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Sly

Boris was free to walk Moscow. Man in Moscow was free to shoot Boris.

Don't post this bullshit here, please. It's not about freedom. It's about hate in society. For example, in the States there is a hate between people of different skin color (the one must be a complete idiot to deny this fact). For example you are free to walk through night Harlem, but there is a serious probability that you won't least till the sunrise. Am I wrong, ah? How it could be related with the US freedoms?

The same here. But the problem is not a skin color. The most serious hate here is between groups that support Putin and whose that don't. Most of the criminals, radicals and and simple idiots are pro-Putin because these groups are the easiest ones to be brainwashed. Once again, it's not about freedom. You guys, have no idea about the situation here. You don't even guess about it if you post such silly comments.

Originally Posted by pornmasta

explain how it is useful for putin's politics

He won't explain it because he's just a brainwashed tool. A same tool like those who killed Nemtsov here. Those do not think or analize the facts. They stupidly trust to everything they see on TV.

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Only in Russia

Clown.

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by klinton

IMO its too obvious that Putin would do it. guy would have to be completely out of his fucking mind, thats all.
he wont profit from that death, only lose.

Why would Putin kill a person that have 2% or less support? In the middle of the Moscow and in front of Kremlin? he handled much bigger players as oligarch without killing them.

If he wanted him dead , guy would get his dosage of polonium (in his big mac. I guess that was his official food when considering whose interests he was promoting) or it would be kidnapped in the middle of the night and never found. Leaving dead body for photographing and live stream that was watching whole planet is most idiotic move. Especially before scheduled rally.

And why guy that was afraid for his life was walking around town without bodyguards. He had money and had US advisers for everything,anyway.

Anyway, anyone having idea how hard is to find killers in a big city like moscow? Does size of city reduce chance of finding executors?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Why would Putin kill a person that have 2% or less support?

Especially just a day before the anti-Putin march. It won't give any benefits to Putin, but will just make the things much worse for him (this includes negative consequences inside the country and from the outside). However he is the one who feed the people with hate via Federal TV. This murder is a direct result of his aggressive internal politic of total hate. I know, he tears hair from his balls right now, because he don't know what to do in this situation. Perhaps he will be clever enough to pull up their dogs and stop the hysterical hate policy on the Federal channels. Because otherwise the situation may become very ugly here.

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Especially just a day before the anti-Putin march. It won't give any benefits to Putin, but will just make the things much worse for him (this includes negative consequences inside the country and from the outside). However he is the one who feed the people with hate via Federal TV. This murder is a direct result of his aggressive internal politic of total hate. I know, he tears hair from his balls right now, because he don't know what to do in this situation. Perhaps he will be clever enough to pull up their dogs and stop the hate hysterics on the Federal channels. Because otherwise the things may become very ugly here.

It seems like simple calculation. Person that have such small support can't do shit on political level,especially since he was in government with Putin, so there was one card left to try to provoke unrest and some Maydan scenario and that is precisely this.If there is no Maydan style shit (what will not happen), it was counted on downgrading his rating and hoping to get effect of further demonizing together with dozen small things done everyday like:



US is master in marketing and propaganda and years ahead of Russians that are slowly getting on that level with worldwide projects like RT and Sputnik news now, but they are still years behind.

I mean, isn't this photo priceless for using in "western" medias?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

I mean, isn't this photo priceless for using in "western" medias?

I do believe it was an improvisation of pro-Putin criminals here. Those are too stupid to think about consequences, but the level of hate against Nemtsov, Navalny and other oppositionists in the Federal media is just above the top. This picture sums up everything you can see on Federal TV about Putin's opposition:

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

For example you are free to walk through night Harlem, but there is a serious probability that you won't least till the sunrise.

harlem dude? New york city is having some of the lowest crime rates in a generation.

point taken, but harlem LOL! go with newark new jersey next time.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

harlem dude? New york city is having some of the lowest crime rates in a generation.

I know it has "low" rates for last couple of years, dude. But it still higher than in Moscow region which is bigger (we have sufficiently more population here). I have posted the stats on total homicide cases in NYC and Moscow region for 2013 in one of the threads here. We still have much lesser homicide rate, never even mention the rape cases (only 24 in 2012, 22 of those were committed by illegal immigrants from Asia and Caucasus).

But anyways, do you really wanna say you'll be safe walking at the night Harlem? Don't make me laugh, please. Other Americans (including NYC residents) are reading your posts too and they know about possible consequences of spending night there.

[just a punk]

The investigation considers the underlying political motive for the killing Boris Nemtsov

Right now in Moscow:

[just a punk]

Just one more version. Let's look at the facts and you'll see what I'm talking about:

1) Nemtsov is the most pro-Ukrainian politic. In opposite to Navalny or Gorbachev, he hever agreed that Crimea must be joined to Russia.

2) Les that a hour ago he gave an interview to the Ukrainian media.

3) As his friends say, he never liked a street walking. Especially the night ones under the cold winter rains and cold wind.

4) However, he was walking with some Ukrainian girl related to the same media he gave an interview just right before the assassination.

5) He was killed by 4 bullets of 6 rounds shoot into his back from some car. His companion Ukrainian girl has not been wounded. She saw everything: a car, it's plate number and maybe even a face of the killer, but she was not killed. What an assassin will leave alive a witness who was a few steps away and saw everything?

6) We all know that Russian an the Ukraine at war right now and Ukrainian secret services are not somehow better than ours. Those are really interested in a serious destabilization in Russia.

So let's just looks at the facts. Those are not my personal thoughts. These are nothing but facts. Let's hold on for a minute and think about it. That's at least another version which is worth to consider, isn't it?

P.S. The anti-Putin mach scheduled for tomorrow as previously approved by Moscow City Hall on Moscow outskirts. Now after the assassination of Nemtsov, the City Hall just agreed with opposition to move it right into the center of Moscow. Maybe you don't understand what I'm talking about, but it's very serious move.

[spads]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I know it has "low" rates for last couple of years, dude. But it still higher than in Moscow region which is bigger (we have sufficiently more population here). I have posted the stats on total homicide cases in NYC and Moscow region for 2013 in one of the threads here. We still have much lesser homicide rate, never even mention the rape cases (only 24 in 2012, 22 of those were committed by illegal immigrants from Asia and Caucasus).

But anyways, do you really wanna say you'll be safe walking at the night Harlem? Don't make me laugh, please. Other Americans (including NYC residents) are reading your posts too and they know about possible consequences of spending night there.

Fact, you're almost twice as likely to be killed in Russia than in the US. You can Google the homicide statistics. Moscow is probably more safe because all the wealthy people live there. The rest of Russia might as well be another country.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by spads

Fact, you're almost twice as likely to be killed in Russia than in the US.

This is just a generalized statistics, because it includes all those war zones on the Caucasus like Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria where dozens of Islamic jihadists get killed every day during counter-terror operations (youtube is your friend). Yes, those stats are seriously affect the whole-Russian ones, but they don't make Moscow much more safe city than NYC for example.

[aka123]

Russia's main death causes:

- Vodka
- Opposing Putin

Don't take it too literally.

[spads]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

This is just a generalized statistics, because it includes all those war zones on the Caucasus like Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria where dozens of Islamic jihadists get killed every day during counter-terror operations (youtube is your friend). Yes, those stats are seriously affect the whole-Russian ones, but they don't make Moscow much more safe city than NYC for example.

I already answered this. How about next time you quote me entirely instead of cherry picking one sentence you can argue.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by aka123

- Vodka

Said by a Finnish guy. LOL )))

[aka123]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

This is just a generalized statistics, because it includes all those war zones on the Caucasus like Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria where dozens of Islamic jihadists get killed every day during counter-terror operations (youtube is your friend). Yes, those stats are seriously affect the whole-Russian ones, but they don't make Moscow much more safe city than NYC for example.

My dear Russian friend, those areas are Russia too. You can't hand pick areas, or if those areas aren't part of Russia, then Russia should get hell out of there.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Said by a Finnish guy. LOL )))

Finnish drink, but compared to Russia we are amateurs.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by spads

I already answered this. How about next time you quote me entirely instead of cherry picking one sentence you can argue.

You didn't. The the Northern Caucasus in not "the rest of Russia". It's just a very small territory on the outskirts of Russian Federation. Educate yourself.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by aka123

My dear Russian friend, those areas are Russia too.

Yes they are parts of Russian Federation. They are not that big at all, but they deliver the most of homicide rate to the country statistics. Once again: Moscow is much safer place than NYC and that's a fact.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Yes they are parts of Russian Federation. They are not that big at all, but they deliver the most of homicide rate to the country statistics. Once again: Moscow is much safer place than NYC and that's a fact.

Probably, but neither place is not that good to start with. How about comparing to Berlin? That evil Nazi City™ must be very murderous compared to Great Russian Capital?

[klinton]

exactly like I said. if he really wanted him death (why ? every death can be uncovered later), there are dozens of better ways. like not working car brakes etc.

the question is: who will profit from it most and who will lose from it ? profit= Putin's enemies, lose= Putin
its like with that ukrainian plane shot down (i'm not saying that it wasnt made by separatists...they just made mistake...because somebody lead them to make that mistake)..few weeks later whole world was angry that they put even harder sanctions on Russia
so everyone supporting Putin will feel like idiot now, thinking that he supports murderer. and it will be bad thing to support him without blame.

Wolodia, come on.
I know that you planted bombs in 1999, that wasnt that stupid, but to be stupid like that ? I dont believe it. only stupid would believe it.

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Why would Putin kill a person that have 2% or less support? In the middle of the Moscow and in front of Kremlin? he handled much bigger players as oligarch without killing them.

[femdomdestiny]

I ve just searched and found interesting list. Not sure is it true but:

Where are world's deadliest major cities? | News | The Guardian

[klinton]

and isnt it true somehow ? or is too black and white? while in reality is grey as always ?

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

This picture sums up everything you can see on Federal TV about Putin's opposition:

[klinton]

and now lets take a closer look what happened few weeks earlier in Argnetina and its consequences
Kirchner Political Vulnerable Following Nisman?s Death

Alberto Nisman's Death Divides Argentina | Al Jazeera America

[klinton]

it all seems to be connected somehow !

Originally Posted by klinton

and now lets take a closer look what happened few weeks earlier in Argnetina and its consequences
Kirchner Political Vulnerable Following Nisman?s Death

Alberto Nisman's Death Divides Argentina | Al Jazeera America

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by klinton

and isnt it true somehow ? or is too black and white? while in reality is grey as always ?

To have a grey zone, you need something bright in opposite to dark. In fact, there are non-Federal news in Russia and they are on the brights side (or at least in the middle). E.g. Дождь, РБК etc. The normal people watch/read those media channels, while the scum mostly stick to the Federal ones. Tell me what news source do you read and I'll tell you who you are.

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

To have a grey zone, you need something bright in opposite to dark. In fact, there are non-Federal news in Russia and they are on the brights side (at least they are in the middle). E.g. Дождь, РБК etc. The normal people watch/read those media channels, while the scum mostly stick to the Federal ones. Tell me what news source do you read and I'll tell you who you are.

exclusiveness is very dangerous. You can't ignore different sources. I am reading news from Iran,Russia, UK,US...sometimes French sources. Need to watch all because that is a way to better understand. After some time,it is very easy to understand messages that are behind news.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Waiting for CyberSEO to comment on how amazing and free Russia is before commenting!...

yeah the USA is SO much better...in your imagination

List of United States presidential assassination attempts and plots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


now go back to telling the world how to live since you are SO much better, in your imagination of course

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

yeah the USA is SO much better...in your imagination

He's an idiot. It's not worth to comment his posts at all.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Don't post this bullshit here, please. It's not about freedom. It's about hate in society. For example, in the States there is a hate between people of different skin color (the one must be a complete idiot to deny this fact). For example you are free to walk through night Harlem, but there is a serious probability that you won't least till the sunrise. Am I wrong, ah? How it could be related with the US freedoms?

The same here. But the problem is not a skin color. The most serious hate here is between groups that support Putin and whose that don't. Most of the criminals, radicals and and simple idiots are pro-Putin because these groups are the easiest ones to be brainwashed. Once again, it's not about freedom. You guys, have no idea about the situation here. You don't even guess about it if you post such silly comments.



He won't explain it because he's just a brainwashed tool. A same tool like those who killed Nemtsov here. Those do not think or analize the facts. They stupidly trust to everything they see on TV.



Clown.

So there are no Russian racists?