Obama's Russian sanctions are working! >80% of Russians now hold negative views of the USA

[dyna mo]

a number that has more than doubled over the past year and that is by far the highest negative rating since the center started tracking those views in 1988.

Thanks Obama.

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[just a punk]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

a number that has more than doubled over the past year and that is by far the highest negative rating since the center started tracking those views in 1988.

I not the one who consumes Putin's propaganda, so my thoughts about the USA haven't change (I know it's just a country like any other on the planet where you can meet good and bad people). On the other hand, the hate to the USA among average Russian is just over-scale. To explain it better, now a lot of Russians (not everybody of course!) hate the USA even more than Soviet people hate em in 80's of the past century.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I not the one who consumes Putin's propaganda, so my thoughts about the USA haven't change (I know it's just a country like any other on the planet where you can meet good and bad people). On the other hand, the hate to the USA among average Russian is just over-scale. To explain it better, now a lot of Russians (not everybody of course!) hate the USA even more than Soviet people hate em in 80's of the past century.

i can fully understand why many Russians are pissed @ USA now. Sanctions hurt people more than governments really. But what's odd to me is that [from what i've read] the Netsmov murder added to the anti-AMerican sentiment due to conspiracy theories there that claim CIA murdered him.

[CAHEK]

We could someday end up with a real war.

[TheSquealer]

Guess what would happen if Russia imposed sanctions on the USA? Nothing. No one would even know.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i can fully understand why many Russians are pissed @ USA now. Sanctions hurt people more than governments really. But what's odd to me is that [from what i've read] the Netsmov murder added to the anti-AMerican sentiment due to conspiracy theories there that claim CIA murdered him.

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I have no idea why anybody would blame the USA for anything

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Guess what would happen if Russia imposed sanctions on the USA? Nothing. No one would even know.

like a russian bear shitting in the woods.

[Vendzilla]

Is there anyone that likes Obama besides liberals?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

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I have no idea why anybody would blame the USA for anything

what the fuck are you gibbering about?

you're still shell-shocked from US bombs.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

what the fuck are you gibbering about?

you're still shell-shocked from US bombs.

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I just said that I do not know why they would blame the USA at all, it is not my fault you do not believe me when I say the USA is innocent

america would never do such a thing

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

America would never do such a thing

It's all so confusing glad you're open minded too

[RummyBoy]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Guess what would happen if Russia imposed sanctions on the USA? Nothing. No one would even know.

You, Dyna and whole bunch of you need to go out into the real world and get an education.

It's a big, wide world out there and there is a lot to learn......

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Is there anyone that likes Obama besides liberals?

Please, don't include all liberals in the loving group ....

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

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I just said that I do not know why they would blame the USA at all, it is not my fault you do not believe me when I say the USA is innocent

america would never do such a thing

can you put this in some sort of order that makes sense? because this is just more gibberish from you.

I know you are trying to suggest I don't know about the shit USA government does but you're just making shit up about that. I haven't ruled out USA involvement.

But a murder of a prominent politician right outside the Kremlin and the Kremlin isn't even aware or implicated?



You're drinking that kool-aid, not me.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

You, Dyna and whole bunch of you need to go out into the real world and get an education.

It's a big, wide world out there and there is a lot to learn......

aren't you the gfyer who claimed CHina's economy is the most important economy in the world?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i can fully understand why many Russians are pissed @ USA now. Sanctions hurt people more than governments really.

Only an idiot may think so. Nothing personal )) Please tell me at least one single US sanction which affects an average Russian citizen (me for example)? Get a clue please, man

Originally Posted by dyna mo

But what's odd to me is that [from what i've read] the Netsmov murder added to the anti-AMerican sentiment due to conspiracy theories there that claim CIA murdered him.

Russian news say Chechens killed him. But you know it better of course

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Guess what would happen if Russia imposed sanctions on the USA? Nothing. No one would even know.

Nobody here even knows about the US sanctions - just believe me. The people are zombied by Putin's propaganda that Obama is in charge of ruble devolution (<sarcasm> not oil prices of course </sarcasm>). Now as about your clueless statement...

the USA: U.S. Businesses Fear Russian Sanctions May Hurt Bottom Line and Economic Sanctions Would Hurt American Companies in Russia | The New Republic
the UK: BBC News - How sanctions against Russia are hitting UK businesses

Yeah, no one would even know

[seeandsee]

stupid cold wars

[Bladewire]

I think that 80% of USA Americans, and such as, could not find Russia on a map.

[dyna mo]

hah, yup, here's that little pearl of wisdom highlighting your education

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

China is by many metrics now the most important economy in the world.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

But a murder of a prominent politician right outside the Kremlin and the Kremlin isn't even aware or implicated?

in all fairness, they would have killed him years ago and not outside the kremlin...putin had no need to kill him so he didnt...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Only an idiot may think so. Nothing personal )) Please name me at least one single US sanction which affects an average Russian citizen (me for example)? Get a clue please, man



Russian news say Chechens killed him. But you know it better of course

certainly you are joking? YOu haven't read anything at all about sanctions and their impacts? Why not brush up a bit before thumping your chest in defiance.


and you missed the fucking part where I stated explicitly [from what i've read]? You really couldn't figure out WTF on that? Here, it means that from what I've read, it's my understanding that the anti-American sentiment currently in RUssia went up over the last few weeks due to theories floating there re: CIa involvement?

really?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

in all fairness, they would have killed him years ago and not outside the kremlin...putin had no need to kill him so he didnt...

that's not what I am stating. That murder happened right outside the Kremlin and the Kremlin was completely unaware? Netsmov was under total surveliiance and the Kremlin was completely unaware?

right?

wrong.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

certainly you are joking? YOu haven't read anything at all about sanctions and their impacts?

You tell me please. All those US sanctions are directed against thievish Russian oligarchs. How could they affect an average citizen? Fail to explain again?

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Only an idiot may think so. Nothing personal )) Please name me at least one single US sanction which affects an average Russian citizen (me for example)? Get a clue please, man

man russia will run out of Iphones and Ipads and Imacs and I watches and Icrap

you better tell the russian population to start stocking up on these valuable commodities before they run out

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

You tell me please. All those US sanctions are directed against thievish Russian oligarchs. How could they affect an average citizen? Fail to explain again?

there are GOBS of research studies that all go into extreme detail on government sanctions and their horrible impact on citizens.

I was referring to that, wrongly assuming anyone who would enter into a conversations re: sanctions would, you know, actually have a fucking clue about, well, sanctions.

I apologize for my assuming you would actually know what the fuck you are talking about.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

that's not what I am stating. That murder happened right outside the Kremlin and the Kremlin was completely unaware? Netsmov was under total surveliiance and the Kremlin was completely unaware?

Netsmov was not as important and as protected person like JFK for example. Does your statement mean that White House, Capitol, FBI, CIA and the secret services where unaware of this:



You are just kidding, right?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

there are GOBS of research studies

Oh please don't start again your silly defensive whoring, like you did when I asked you to provide the math calculations in another thread. You are trying to pretend an expert, but you know nothing. I have asked you a simple question: show me at least one single US sanction that affects an average citizen (me for example). And you fail again: "I don't remember that formula... It wasn't mine... There are GOBS of research studies..." That's so silly and miserable, man

The only problem for average Russians is ruble devolution which was caused by the serious drop of oil prices. I don't think that Obama is involved somehow

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Oh please don't start again your silly defensive whoring, like you did when I asked you to provide the math calculations in another thread. You are trying to pretend an expert, but you know nothing. I have asked you a simple question: show me at least one single US sanction that affects an average citizen (me for example). And you fail again: "I don't remember that formula... It wasn't mine... There are GOBS of research studies..." That's so silly and miserable, man

you really are this fucking stupid!

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you really are this fucking stupid!

So that was your answer? Just like in another thread when you were asked for the math calculations? Ah, ok then

Do you understand that other people are also reading this thread and they see how stupid your miserable defensive posts are? For example I know the exact list of the US sanctions, and I can state they can't affect any average citizen here. Only because of this simple fact: they all target the Putin's friendly oligarchs only (+ their businesses of course). Your country was even unable to renounce the use of Russian rocket technologies, just because you will suck a donkey dick without them. Sanctions, my ass

[pornguy]

80% of the world hates the US and they do so because they are told to.

Its the US's fault for this that or the other thing.

[The Porn Nerd]

More Russia shit?
Man the only way anybody knows or cares about that fucking country is from threads on GFY. LOL

Next!

[just a punk]

As about on how those sanctions do really affect people here. Putin's media blame all his internal economical faults on the USA. So his rating just growing here, along with the hate to Obama and the USA, because the biggest % of people (like in any country) are not smart enough to analyze the situation and they simple believe to everything the see on TV. Yes, they work for Putin's propaganda only. If oil prices will go up again ruble will strengthen too, he will say: see, I just won Obama again and we are on the rise. Believe me, it will be just like that - Putin will be winner and Obama will be a suck sucker in the eye of an average Russian citizen who watch Federal "news" on TV.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

So that was your answer? Just like in another thread when you were asked for the math calculations? Ah, ok then

Do you understand that other people are also reading this thread and they see how stupid your miserable defensive posts are? For example I know the exact list of the US sanctions, and I can state they can't affect any average citizen here. Only because of this simple fact: they all target the Putin's friendly oligarchs only (+ their businesses of course). Your country was even unable to renounce the use of Russian rocket technologies, just because you will suck a donkey dick without them. Sanctions, my ass

look, what makes you so completely fucking stupid is you abject failure of realizing the direct correlation between the uptick in the anti-AMerican sentiment there and the recently imposed sanctions.

you completely ignore that, instead going off on some weird fucking tangent about maths. Not to mention your complete lack of admitting your economy is taking a massive shit, your government revised their prediction for economic growth there due to the sanctions, shaving off 2 full % points, a direct translation into the pockets of millions of Russians.

conclusion: you really are that fucking stupid.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

look, what makes you so completely fucking stupid

The same silly defensive reply once again? Not funny anymore, man. Can you just answer to may question, ah?

[dyna mo]

Low oil prices and sanctions imposed on Moscow over Ukraine will send the Russian economy into recession next year, government officials said on Tuesday, a dramatic change to an earlier forecast of 1.2 percent gross domestic product growth.

Russia expects recession in 2015 as sanctions, oil prices bite | Reuters

In the first official forecast of a recession, Deputy Economy Minister Alexei Vedev said
"We now assume that sanctions will remain in place throughout the whole of 2015," Vedev told reporters. Earlier, the ministry had expected sanctions to be lifted by mid-2015. "This for us means closed capital markets for the majority of Russian companies and banks."



stand-by for a dumbfuck russian to say a recession doesn't hurt average citizens.
ahahahahahah.

[dyna mo]

What’s Been the Effect of Western Sanctions on Russia? | Putin's Way | FRONTLINE | PBS

What has been the impact on the Russian public so far?

The big impact is that the prices of buckwheat have increased as much as 70 percent. Basic food stuff has increased sharply. We?re seeing consumer panic in Russia because of the falling exchange rate. And the falling exchange rate is mainly because of the oil prices, but it?s also the financial sanctions. People are fearful of the situation and we?re seeing that the exchange rate is jumping up and down. It?s moving either way every so often by 5 percent in a day. The worst we?ve seen is it has gone down by 10 percent in a day.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

What has been the impact on the Russian public so far?

Don't post the links, name the sanctions instead.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

The big impact is that the prices of buckwheat have increased as much as 70 percent. Basic food stuff has increased sharply.

I don't eat buckwheat, but other imported products have risen for about 20% or so, and that's very interesting because ruble has dropped the 2x times, while the import prices grown for about 20% only. But anyways it's all about the oil prices. What exactly sanctions are you talking about?



You must be real blind or a stupid one if you can't read the picture above. And where are your Obama's clown sanctions on that graph? Can't see a special line for 'em

[woj]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Don't post the links, name the sanctions instead.



I don't eat buckwheat, but other imported products have risen for about 20% or so, and that's very interesting because ruble has dropped the 2x times, while the import prices grown for about 20% only. But anyways it's all about the oil prices. What exactly sanctions are you talking about?



You must be real blind or a stupid one if you can't read the picture above. And where are your Obama's clown sanctions on that graph? Can't see a special line for 'em

that graph actually proves dyna mo's point... in Feb sanctions started, and magically 10% gap between RUB and oil price appeared... in middle of June that gap is most clear... oil is up 5% while RUB is down 5%...

so price of oil is indeed probably biggest factor in the decline of RUB, but sanctions probably contribute another another 5-10% to the decline...

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by woj

that graph actually proves dyna mo's point...

That graph proves that decline of ruble has started far long before the so-called US "sanctions", right when the oil prices started to drop down. Your Obama's sanctions are for the US rednecks and for ours too (so Putin could brainwash them even easier).

[woj]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

That graph proves that decline of ruble has started far long before the so-called US "sanctions", right when the oil prices started to drop down. Your Obama's sanctions are for the US rednecks and for ours too (so Putin could brainwash them even easier).

beginning of the year both oil + RUB start off at 0%...
then look at march 1st.... oils is flat, RUB is down 10%... and since then RUB has been trailing oil by 5-10%... how do you explain that?

or let me rephrase, why did RUB lose 10% between jan 1st and march 1st? (clearly oil isn't the reason, because oil price is flat in that time period)

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Don't post the links, name the sanctions instead.



I don't eat buckwheat, but other imported products have risen for about 20% or so, and that's very interesting because ruble has dropped the 2x times, while the import prices grown for about 20% only. But anyways it's all about the oil prices. What exactly sanctions are you talking about?



You must be real blind or a stupid one if you can't read the picture above. And where are your Obama's clown sanctions on that graph? Can't see a special line for 'em

I already stated "from what I've read" the sanctions are a primary reason for the uptick in anti-USA bullshit but instead of pointing me to shit to read that counterpoints that, you think this is some sort of gotcha. not to mention the tone of my thread also shows a disappointment with my learning that anti-USA resentment in russia is at an all time high right now.

all of which went right over your head.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

That graph proves that decline of ruble has started far long before the so-called US "sanctions", right when the oil prices started to drop down. Your Obama's sanctions are for the US rednecks and for ours too (so Putin could brainwash them even easier).

no. yet again, no one here gives a shit about ruskies except the government. especially rednecks.


you think rednecks are BO fans?

[dyna mo]

so let's summarize the russian's posts-


russkies are so stupid that in spite of sanctions not having 1 single impact on them, they all the sudden are more anti-USA than ever because the state-sponsored television tells them to.

that's sure a lot better reason to hate.

russkie logic.

freedom!

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

You, Dyna and whole bunch of you need to go out into the real world and get an education.

It's a big, wide world out there and there is a lot to learn......

In addition to living in Russia for 10 years, having multiple companies there and over 300 employees, I'm quite certain I've seen a great deal more of the world than you have being that I devoted a great deal of my life to traveling.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by pornguy

80% of the world hates the US and they do so because they are told to.

Its the US's fault for this that or the other thing.

yes the USA just lets other countries develop and does not interfere at all more bombs dropped than hitler on others since ww2 is just erased from the memory, and the export of your inflation and corruption of the 3rd world to fit US corporate interests is just water under the bridge...unfair economic sanctions that hit entire regions (not this russia anti oligarh selective sanctions but total economic sanctions) devastate the economies and livelyhoods of 100-s of millions of people world wide but this is also something the world does not mind

the real reason people hate the USA is because all these governments just decided to spew anti american propaganda, because: reasons


yes yes that sounds like a stable and valid argument if ever I heard one

who could ever think that the USA was anything but the most honest of governments, the world cant wait to get your health care and education and your rape rape ect you guys are obviously winning on all fronts

[dyna mo]

no, we get it.

in the 75 years since the Nazis, we've dropped more bombs as leader of the Western world than the Nazis did in 3 years.

what's not to get. simple.

[dyna mo]

FTR, i still have fond memories of the 2 times I got to bang Russian porn sluts a few years back. they both licked my butthole too! nice, right?

they were very grateful that I paid them in American dollars.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

yes the USA just lets other countries develop and does not interfere at all more bombs dropped than hitler on others since ww2 is just erased from the memory, and the export of your inflation and corruption of the 3rd world to fit US corporate interests is just water under the bridge...unfair economic sanctions that hit entire regions (not this russia anti oligarh selective sanctions but total economic sanctions) devastate the economies and livelyhoods of 100-s of millions of people world wide but this is also something the world does not mind

the real reason people hate the USA is because all these governments just decided to spew anti american propaganda, because: reasons


yes yes that sounds like a stable and valid argument if ever I heard one

who could ever think that the USA was anything but the most honest of governments, the world cant wait to get your health care and education and your rape rape ect you guys are obviously winning on all fronts

Imagine if serbia wielded the power the United States has?





Rape in the Bosnian war pertains to the characteristic elements of sexual abuse in the ethnic clash between Serb, Croat and Bosniak factions in the Bosnian war. While on a lesser scale, women of all ethnic groups were affected, more specifically, rape was used as a systematized instrument of war by Serb armed forces predominantly targeting women and girls of the Bosniak ethnic group for physical and moral destruction. Estimates of the number of women raped during the war range from 20,000 to 50,000. This has been referred to as "mass rape", particularly with regard to the coordinated use of rape as a weapon of war. The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) declared that "systematic rape", and "sexual enslavement" in time of war was a crime against humanity, second only to the war crime of genocide. The Kunarac case was the first time in judicial history anyone had been found guilty of these crimes.

According to Margot Wallström, U.N. Special Representative on Sexual Violence in Conflict, only 12 cases out of an estimated 50,000 to 60,000 have been prosecuted as of 2010.

Ethnic dimension
Early United Nations investigations concluded that "Rape has been reported to have been committed by all sides to the conflict. However, the largest number of reported victims have been Bosnian Muslims, and the largest number of alleged perpetrators have been Bosnian Serbs. There are few reports of rape and sexual assault between members of the same ethnic group." It has been claimed that "For the Serbs, the desire to degrade, humiliate, and impregnate Bosnian Muslim women with 'little Chetniks' was paramount." Women were forced to go full term with their pregnancies and give birth. Many of the reports of the abuses illustrated the ethnic dimension of the rapes.

The women knew the rapes would begin when 'Mar? na Drinu' was played over the loudspeaker of the main mosque. ('Mars na Drinu,' or 'March on the Drina', is reportedly a former Chetnik fighting song that was banned during the Tito years.) While 'Mars na Drinu' was playing, the women were ordered to strip and soldiers entered the homes taking the ones they wanted. The age of women taken ranged from 12 to 60. Frequently the soldiers would seek out mother and daughter combinations. Many of the women were severely beaten during the rapes. ? Seventh Report on War Crimes in the Former Yugoslavia: Part II , US submission of information to the United Nations Security Council.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

rape was used as a systematized instrument of war by Serb armed forces

just let me remind you that the war in bosnia was basically the whole world against the serb minority in bosnia...serbia took no part at all in the bosnian war...now the whole world either stood by and watched a minority of serbs rape the majority of bosniaks and croats OR your story is as full of shit as saddams WMD and the USA needed a reason to justify support of croat terrorist groups *who took over US Planes and tried to blow up the statue of liberty* but now all of a sudden they are good to go after a peace deal is signed


on and how amusing is it to me that you are so very very very very desperate not to comment on the 100.000 rapes/year in the progressive progressive USA but have to resort to a 20 year old war time figure of 20K as admitted by the UN and over a 3 year period for all 3 sides involved and that happened in another country and not serbia? answer: you are the most amusing form of entertainment

amusing american will be amusing

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I think that 80% of USA Americans, and such as, could not find Russia on a map.

Oh I have faith in us.. It's a pretty big plot of land and you know they can see it from Alaska according to Sarah Palin..