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directfiesta

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Axeman

That is certainly possible, but she did have trouble getting a huge bump in the 08 primaries in women. Now is that because of her, or because of the excitement and media swell behind Obama at the time? Not sure. Her hope is try and inspire the younger women especially to vote for her to break the "glass ceiling". Youth vote is likely to see a drop in turnout in 2016 as well, so that's where she should trying to rally up enthusiasm.

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pimpmaster9000

americans voting in jeb bush will give the USA north korea status the bush dynasty vs the kim dynasty

as for hillary LOL...its hard to explain this but the rest of the world sees bill clinton as a clown...she is the wife of a clown...I have no idea what she will do US domestic, nor do I care, but s far as foreign policy is concerned:

the russians would rather die than do shit hillary says
the chinnese would rather die than do shit hillary says
the arabs would rather die than do shit hillary says...

it will be a disaster for US foreign policy, but disaster is the normal state of US foreign policy so it wont matter much

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dyna mo

those bombs Clinton dropped all around you had a lingering effect, your dumbfuckery is off the charts today!



Former US President Bill Clinton has attended the unveiling of a statue of himself in Kosovo's capital Pristina.
The 3.5m (11 ft) bronze statue was inaugurated at Bill Clinton Boulevard - to loud cheers of thousands of ethnic Albanians.
Many of them regard Mr Clinton as a hero for launching Nato's air bombing campaign to drive Yugoslavia's troops out of the Serbian province in 1999.

MaDalton

i dare to say that Clinton is the most respected ex President since Kennedy - and for sure the most respected one that is still alive

maybe just not in Serbia

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pimpmaster9000

oh right american news

he did a great job just like in every US "liberation"...lets see kosovo is loosing 5% of its population annually because of ridiculous unemployment 15 fucking years after the "liberation", so in 20 years kosovo will have 0 people living there at this rate the entire kosovo government is being accused of human organ trafficking by none other than US secretary general madelene allbright and the "kosovo liberation army" just launched attacks against the macedonian government...

may I take this opportunity to say what a great fucking job bill clinton did

I have nothing against what he did in kosovo...he surgically removed kosovo from serbia, and made it europes problem...nobody has ever done anything better for serbia in the last 100 years

but my point stands, he is a global joke, a liar and his wife is even a bigger joke...if you think the russians, chineese and arabs will want to do shit billary says you are very very amusing

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ManPuppy

Toss-up... Carter is quite well-respected for his work as an ex-President. No one wants to go back to the Carter years, of course, and you can find tens of millions who long for the good old days of Clinton's terms. But, as an ex-President, Carter has made quite a name for himself as an humanitarian, tempered with humility that Clinton seems to think is irrelevant. (And he may be right.)

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nico-t

freedom to vote.... on the same couple of people for the last few decades.

dyna mo

riiiiiiiight. the media created that statue and the story about it.

fyi, madeleine albright hasn't been secretary of anything for 30+ years.

you think Clinton's job was to create a powerful longlasting economy there?

you're point doesn't stand up at all. You can't speak for 100s of millions of people and dozens of countries re: Clinton being universally hated. that's one of the more dumbfuck things you've exclaimed around here.

and you missed the part where i went OTR here stating Hillary is already out of the race. I couldn't give a shit if you think "arabs" won't do what Hillary wants. It doesn't matter because she's not going to be president.

crockett

Complaining about black voter turn out is meaningless. Black people generally vote for Democrats much the same as Jewish people tend to vote Democrat or trailer park rednecks vote Republican. It's a silly thing to try to make it seem as if that's why he won.

He won because the the Republican party has alienated everyone whom is not rich or white, not because some black people showed up to vote. The simple fact is white people no longer make up the majority in this country and due to the GOP's actions against those minorities, the GOP has a shrinking voter pool. The GOP running a token black guy or Hispanic whom has zero ties to 99% of minorities in this country doesn't make them vote Republican it just angers them more.

The GOP has a very hard path in it's future and they are making it worse for themselves by their actions. Anyone with common sense can see the population demographics have changed and yet the right keeps walking into the wall head first thinking they will break the wall with their head..

dyna mo

look, i don't have a problem with real numbers. kane already pointed out it was an overall minority vote that showed up for BO, not just blacks. Regardless, Hillary is out of the race, partly because i am confidently predicting that she can't rally that group to vote for her, like BO did. and that's just part of her problemS.

it's certainly far from a foregone conclusion that she will even win the nom. I mean look at her announcement to run, she can't even hold a press conference about it, instead driving around in a minivan and having personal meetings with hand-picked groups.

Rochard

Yesterday I read an article about how Hillary hasn't driven a car in over twenty years. What?

It seems Hillary has been driven every where for most of her life - When her husband was governor or President, then when she was Senator and then Secretary of Defense - and every moment in-between. Then the article went on to say Hillary lives in million dollar houses, got an eight million dollar book deal, flies around in private jets..... I hate this - this is exactly the kind of person I don't want in office. I mean, how can someone who doesn't drive a car and makes millions of dollars a year have any basic understanding on how much the price of gas affects the average American?

Sounds horrible, right?

How much money do you think Jeb Bush makes? Walker? McCain? Palin?

All of these fuckers are the same. Every last one of them. What we need in office is someone who is still struggling to pay off their school loans, not someone who makes $200k for giving a speech.

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pornguy

I dont think Hillary will win though.

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Rochard

I do.

I watched a video today by Bill O'reilly and his opening line was "This country is in trouble, economically and overseas". Huh? What? Did unemployment go up? Did we invade another country? The Republican party always tries to use fear to get it's message across. They are screaming about how horrible our economy is while we have a 5.5% unemployment rate and am set to have the best year since 2005. At the same time, we have removed ourselves from two wars, contained ISIS (which isn't a threat to the US) without putting boots on the ground, and we are about to sign a treaty with Iran that is forty years in the making.

We need to stay the course.

All I care about is the economy. The rest is bullshit and doesn't matter much. Iran, Russia, Obamacare; Who the fuck cares. But when exactly half of my neighbors are loosing their houses, that I care about.

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crockett

Bill Clinton will rally them for her.. You are forgetting that Bill Clinton was probably the most liked president in the last 50 years. Even myself, I don't like Hillary, but if she happens to become president it will be much more reassuring that Bill is there behind the scenes.

dyna mo

both sides use fear to push their agenda rochard, it's hardly a republican exclusive deal.


hillary in iowa:

"And we need to fix the dysfunctional political system and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all, even if that takes a constitutional amendment," she said. "And we need to protect our country from threats that we see and the ones that are on the horizon. So I'm here in Iowa to begin a conversation about how we do that."


fear, it's not new. it's typical.

dyna mo

that suggests Hillary isn't even enough of a candidate on her own, that part i completely agree on.

the part about bill rallying voters and having a presence in the wh/hillary's ear?

not a chance.

crockett

I don't know if she's not enough of a candidate, I just said I don't like her. She just seems far to dry and monotone to me. I suspect she's like that because she is a woman and knows if she uses emotions, it will be counted against her.

If she's a good candidate or not only time will tell. I'd prefer Senator Bill Nelson for Pres and Warren for vice pres if I were to have my pick.

MaDalton

George Clooney for president!

(mark my words)

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dyna mo

i'll have to get up to speed on Nelson, Warren has potential to blow the whole thing wide open.

kane

I saw Elizabeth Warren on Conan O'Brien the other night. She was smart and seemed to be someone who could really strike a populist message. There was one problem. She looked like a cute little old lady.

I think the nation is ready and willing to elect a female president. I just don't know that they are ready to elect someone who looks like their grandma.

I know it is harsh and even a bit sexist, but politics are all encompassing. For a person to be president they have to look, sound and act the part and I'm not sure she looks and sounds it.

I would hope at this point we could look past that as a nation, but I don't think we will.

Rochard

That's not fear at all. This is fear:

"The dysfunctional political system is going to cause a complete economic collapse of our federal government resulting in a shut down that will allow ISIS to plant sleeper families in the United States".

Do we not have a dysfunctional political system? Do we not need to fix this? Nah, let's concentrate on the "impending economic doom" or have yet another investigation into Benghazi. Better yet, now that more people than ever before have healthcare let's kill Obamacare.

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Rochard

Here is some more BULLSHIT. No matter what happens in the White House, The Republicans bash them.

"The decision made by the White House today is a terrible one, but not surprising," said Rubio, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and 2016 presidential candidate. "Cuba is a state sponsor of terrorism. "

Exactly what terrorist groups has Cuba been supporting?

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crockett

Nelson isn't a big name, but he has served FL well as a senator for a very long time. He's also a fucking astronaut. I like him because he's not one of these "look at me" always in the camera dick heads. He just does his fucking job and doesn't make a big deal about everything.

At 72 though he's likely too old to be elected at this point. If I'm not mistaken he was on the short list of VP picks for Obama and I think he would have been a better pick than Biden.

dyna mo

rochard, you're trying to argue that only republicans sell fear, and trying to back that up with an extreme example that somehow is supposed to show that democrats do not sell fear also. take a deep breath and think about how silly that is. i could overload this thread with a metric shit ton of links showing that i am simply recognizing history. but i prefer chatting about the reality of the upcoming election.

directfiesta

They supplied THE cigar to Bill

BTW, I can report on that since I will be in Havana/Varadero/Santiago Friday .