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SilentKnight · 05-02-2015, 07:01 AM

Man Says Police Beating Left Him in Intensive Care

St. Catharines Standard
Thursday, April 30, 2015 8:22:45 EDT PM

It started out as a normal Friday night. Nick Zaidenko was going to meet some friends and grab a drink downtown.

The evening ended with Zaidenko, 21, of St. Catharines, in intensive care after suffering what he says was a brutal beating at the hands of the police.

Zaidenko said an officer demanded to see his identification as he walked through Market Square. Zaidenko wanted to know why. Things spun out of control quickly.

Zaidenko was charged with assault, resisting arrest. His lawyer said the charges are groundless.

The province?s Special Investigations Unit has launched an investigation. The unit investigates incidents involving police when there has been death, serious injury or sexual assault.

?He?s a humble 21-year-old kid,? lawyer Mitchell Worsoff said. ?He has no record. I?ve been practicing law for 17 years, and you see this kind of thing sometimes when people are rough with the police.

?Someone is being investigated for some type of offence or they are being very defiant and actually assault the police.

?I understand the police have a job to do and have to maintain order, but there is no justification for putting someone in intensive care. If you have to restrain someone, it can be done without causing irreparable injury or serious bodily harm.?

Const. Phil Gavin said the NRP is not allowed to provide details because the matter is in the hands of the SIU.

Zaidenko said he was walking through Market Square at about at 1:30 a.m. March 7. He had two beers earlier and another at a bar off St. Paul St.

?I was walking towards Gord?s Place, minding my own business,? he said. ?A police car passed me and did a U-turn. I figured she was going to stop me. She said, ?I need to see your ID.?

?I said, ?Excuse me, but what for??

?She said she was investigating a crime. I told her that?s fine, but I don?t want to give you ID because I didn?t do anything wrong.

?Then she changed her story. She said I need to see your ID because I think you are intoxicated. She got mad because I wasn?t giving her my ID. I didn?t want to interact with her. I just wanted to be on my way.?

Worsoff said Zaidenko wasn?t impaired. Worsoff said medical documents show his client?s blood alcohol level was under 80 milligrams of alcohol in 100 millilitres of blood.

?She got out of her car and said I was under arrest for not providing ID,? Zaidenko said. ?She grabbed me and tried to sweep me off my feet. I grabbed onto her to keep from falling. I did it out of instinct. I wasn?t in fighting mode. I was scared.

?When she saw I grabbed her, she said some codes and called for backup. They quickly came and the next couple of minutes, I just remember getting pounded in every direction possible.

?I remember swearing and being really upset when they put me in the car. I was still conscious at the time, but by the time I got to the station, I could feel my head pulsing. I knew I wasn?t right and I was hoping it would go away. I don?t remember much after that.?

Worsoff said Zaidenko is suffering memory loss, headaches and is having trouble with his speech.

Zaidenko made his first appearance in court to answer the charges April 24. He is due back in court May 13.

The charge against Zaidenko and his allegations have not been proved in court.

?I am waiting for video footage from police cameras downtown and cameras that are located near the marketplace,? Worsoff said. ?There are video cameras at the banks and restaurants in the area. I want that footage and the footage from the police station. I think it will be very telling. These are the kind of cases that need exposure. That?s how you affect change. People have to read about this.?

Dvae · 05-02-2015, 07:19 AM

This could have all been avoided by just complying but no he had to prove his point.
Have fun recovering!

SilentKnight · 05-02-2015, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

This could have all been avoided by just complying but no he had to prove his point.
Have fun recovering!

Yes, it could have been avoided if he'd simply complied to a request that he wasn't legally obligated to comply with.

Citizens in Ontario are not required by law to carry photo I.D. with them.

Quote:

There is no obligation to carry or show identification in Canada, EXCEPT:

∑ if you are driving a motor vehicle must show your licence, insurance, registration. Passengers do not need to identify themselves

∑ if you have committed a by-law infraction or other ticketable offense, you are under obligation to identify yourself ãrefusal can lead to charges of obstruction and/or failure to identify and you can be arrested or detained until you identify yourself

∑ if you are in a location not accessible to minors (bar, restricted movie, etc...) you may have to show proof of age.

ilnjscb · 05-02-2015, 04:57 PM

Would you have complied with the Nazis? All you had to do was comply. Hopefully they find video and either he is lying or they arrest and prosecute the cop to the fullest extent of the law, as in, the law they swore to uphold but didn't.

SilentKnight · 05-02-2015, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Would you have complied with the Nazis?

Firstly, despite the lack of use I have for our local Niagara cops - I wouldn't refer to them as nazis. I had too many family members die overseas fighting the real nazis - to use that word in any other context.

Would I have complied? If I wasn't doing anything illegal - no, I wouldn't have shown my ID. But there are other factors in this particular case that I'm not at liberty to discuss.

If this kid's version of the story is accurate and truthful and is demonstrated by security cam footage - I tend to think he has a strong case.

EddyTheDog · 05-02-2015, 05:22 PM

If people are that pissed off then argue about it the next day - Do what they say and then kick up a stink about it...

There is a 99% chance you wont bother - So was it really worth ending up dead or in ITU?....

SilentKnight · 05-02-2015, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

If people are that pissed off then argue about it the next day - Do what they say and then kick up a stink about it...

There is a 99% chance you wont bother - So was it really worth ending up dead or in ITU?....

Hard to say - what's the price tag on your principles and civil liberties?

How can cops be expected to uphold the law...when they flagrantly break it themselves?

See, I don't view this particular case as a kid who set the chain of events in motion. The female officer instigated the situation. According to his story (if truthful)...he was merely walking along minding his own business. He hadn't committed a crime, he wasn't intoxicated...she had no reasonable suspicion he'd committed a crime. As such, he had no obligation to provide his ID under Canadian law.

To me, this appears to be a case of erosion of civil liberties - and police overstepping their authority. Not to mention what sounds like the use of excessive force in an unjustifiable manner.

Joshua G · 05-02-2015, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

According to his story (if truthful)...

thats the folly of drawing conclusions on 1 side of the story. you slam the cops with only the defendents side of the story, a story of course where a guy who prolly had alot more than 3 drinks, claims he did nothing wrong. if a cop needs to call in backup then he fucked up.

Socks · 05-02-2015, 10:36 PM

Sounds like the backup wanted to be tough guys for their female officer, went too far, and now we're here.

So surely the female officer will just tell the truth and testify against them and justice will be served!

ploychungkorat · 05-02-2015, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Sounds like the backup wanted to be tough guys for their female officer, went too far, and now we're here.

So surely the female officer will just tell the truth and testify against them and justice will be served!

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1215 · 05-02-2015, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae

This could have all been avoided by just complying but no he had to prove his point.
Have fun recovering!

EXACTLY!!!

Just comply and make fun of them later. Let someone else be the douchebag who catches a beating.

EddyTheDog · 05-03-2015, 12:34 AM

Bump....

ilnjscb · 05-03-2015, 05:19 AM

No one is slamming the cops - only idiots assume that one side is always correct. However, simply "complying" isn't the answer either. There are bad cops, just as there are bad people, and there are good cops. However, being a person who has the power of life and death over others should confer special responsibility to use that power with extreme caution. It doesn't matter how much pressure they're under, that is the primary concern.

mineistaken · 05-03-2015, 05:34 AM

no riots?

JFK · 05-03-2015, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Bump....

yup, he's got a few

Markul · 05-03-2015, 07:52 AM

That kid isn't black, so no-one probably cares around here.

mineistaken · 05-03-2015, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul

That kid isn't black, so no-one probably cares around here.

And proof to those morons that shit with police happens not because of "racism".

SilentKnight · 05-03-2015, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G

thats the folly of drawing conclusions on 1 side of the story. you slam the cops with only the defendents side of the story, a story of course where a guy who prolly had alot more than 3 drinks, claims he did nothing wrong. if a cop needs to call in backup then he fucked up.

You must've missed the part where it said his blood alcohol was under the legal limit.

But carry on...

SilentKnight · 05-03-2015, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

no riots?

Amazingly, no. Funny how that works.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

yup, he's got a few

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

And proof to those morons that shit with police happens not because of "racism".

Bingo.

05-02-2015, 07:01 AM	#1
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	Niagara Police put 21yr old in intensive care Man Says Police Beating Left Him in Intensive Care St. Catharines Standard Thursday, April 30, 2015 8:22:45 EDT PM It started out as a normal Friday night. Nick Zaidenko was going to meet some friends and grab a drink downtown. The evening ended with Zaidenko, 21, of St. Catharines, in intensive care after suffering what he says was a brutal beating at the hands of the police. Zaidenko said an officer demanded to see his identification as he walked through Market Square. Zaidenko wanted to know why. Things spun out of control quickly. Zaidenko was charged with assault, resisting arrest. His lawyer said the charges are groundless. The province?s Special Investigations Unit has launched an investigation. The unit investigates incidents involving police when there has been death, serious injury or sexual assault. ?He?s a humble 21-year-old kid,? lawyer Mitchell Worsoff said. ?He has no record. I?ve been practicing law for 17 years, and you see this kind of thing sometimes when people are rough with the police. ?Someone is being investigated for some type of offence or they are being very defiant and actually assault the police. ?I understand the police have a job to do and have to maintain order, but there is no justification for putting someone in intensive care. If you have to restrain someone, it can be done without causing irreparable injury or serious bodily harm.? Const. Phil Gavin said the NRP is not allowed to provide details because the matter is in the hands of the SIU. Zaidenko said he was walking through Market Square at about at 1:30 a.m. March 7. He had two beers earlier and another at a bar off St. Paul St. ?I was walking towards Gord?s Place, minding my own business,? he said. ?A police car passed me and did a U-turn. I figured she was going to stop me. She said, ?I need to see your ID.? ?I said, ?Excuse me, but what for?? ?She said she was investigating a crime. I told her that?s fine, but I don?t want to give you ID because I didn?t do anything wrong. ?Then she changed her story. She said I need to see your ID because I think you are intoxicated. She got mad because I wasn?t giving her my ID. I didn?t want to interact with her. I just wanted to be on my way.? Worsoff said Zaidenko wasn?t impaired. Worsoff said medical documents show his client?s blood alcohol level was under 80 milligrams of alcohol in 100 millilitres of blood. ?She got out of her car and said I was under arrest for not providing ID,? Zaidenko said. ?She grabbed me and tried to sweep me off my feet. I grabbed onto her to keep from falling. I did it out of instinct. I wasn?t in fighting mode. I was scared. ?When she saw I grabbed her, she said some codes and called for backup. They quickly came and the next couple of minutes, I just remember getting pounded in every direction possible. ?I remember swearing and being really upset when they put me in the car. I was still conscious at the time, but by the time I got to the station, I could feel my head pulsing. I knew I wasn?t right and I was hoping it would go away. I don?t remember much after that.? Worsoff said Zaidenko is suffering memory loss, headaches and is having trouble with his speech. Zaidenko made his first appearance in court to answer the charges April 24. He is due back in court May 13. The charge against Zaidenko and his allegations have not been proved in court. ?I am waiting for video footage from police cameras downtown and cameras that are located near the marketplace,? Worsoff said. ?There are video cameras at the banks and restaurants in the area. I want that footage and the footage from the police station. I think it will be very telling. These are the kind of cases that need exposure. That?s how you affect change. People have to read about this.?

05-02-2015, 07:19 AM	#2
Dvae Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: US Posts: 5,326	This could have all been avoided by just complying but no he had to prove his point. Have fun recovering! __________________ . . Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.

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ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,785	Would you have complied with the Nazis? All you had to do was comply. Hopefully they find video and either he is lying or they arrest and prosecute the cop to the fullest extent of the law, as in, the law they swore to uphold but didn't.

05-02-2015, 05:22 PM	#6
EddyTheDog Just Doing My Own Thing Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London, Spain, New Zealand, GFY - Not Croydon... Posts: 25,034	If people are that pissed off then argue about it the next day - Do what they say and then kick up a stink about it... There is a 99% chance you wont bother - So was it really worth ending up dead or in ITU?....

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,478	Sounds like the backup wanted to be tough guys for their female officer, went too far, and now we're here. So surely the female officer will just tell the truth and testify against them and justice will be served!

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EddyTheDog Just Doing My Own Thing Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London, Spain, New Zealand, GFY - Not Croydon... Posts: 25,034	Bump....

05-03-2015, 05:19 AM	#13
ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,785	No one is slamming the cops - only idiots assume that one side is always correct. However, simply "complying" isn't the answer either. There are bad cops, just as there are bad people, and there are good cops. However, being a person who has the power of life and death over others should confer special responsibility to use that power with extreme caution. It doesn't matter how much pressure they're under, that is the primary concern.

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mineistaken See signature :) Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ICQ 363 097 773 Posts: 29,656	no riots?

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