News A Pennsylvania newspaper is very sorry it printed a letter calling for Obama?s execution

[brassmonkey]

The Daily Item, the newspaper in Sunbury, Pennsylvania, wants you to know it is very sorry for printing two paragraphs of a reader letter that called for President Obama's execution.

"The straight forward reason the letter headlined 'What is a Ramadi?' appeared is no bells went off when the editor handling the letter read it and placed it on the opinion page," the editorial board wrote, saying that years of "divisive rhetoric" made the violent phrasing seem normal.

The letter, published Monday, castigates Obama for the fall of the Iraqi city Ramadi to ISIS. Most of it is pretty standard, until the end, when it takes an abrupt turn into calling on the families of veterans to violently overthrow the government:



A Pennsylvania newspaper is very sorry it printed a letter calling for Obama execution

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

castigates Obama for the fall of the Iraqi city Ramadi to ISIS

If the Iraqis are unable to fight after the twenty billion dollars we invested in their military... They deserve it.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Rochard

If the Iraqis are unable to fight after the twenty billion dollars we invested in their military... They deserve it.

have you watched them in combat? they show up high and crossing line of fire.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Rochard

If the Iraqis are unable to fight after the twenty billion dollars we invested in their military... They deserve it.

Problem is that we disbanded the real Army and tried to replace them with regular guys.
This move was doomed from the start.
You can't replace a sergeant with 25 years experience by training some random dude.

[bronco67]

They're not sorry.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Problem is that we disbanded the real Army and tried to replace them with regular guys.
This move was doomed from the start.
You can't replace a sergeant with 25 years experience by training some random dude.

The problem with the Iraqi army has nothing to do with training. It's about morale.

The Iraqi army is made up of people without a country. Iraq is not really country -- it's some bullshit the US propped up to look like a country.

[TCLGirls]

We should have left Saddam there. he was a dictator, but his shit on lockdown...no islamic terrorist could survive there under Saddams ruling fist.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by bronco67

The problem with the Iraqi army has nothing to do with training. It's about morale.

The Iraqi army is made up of people without a country. Iraq is not really country -- it's some bullshit the US propped up to look like a country.

You can bring all the morale in the world into the ring but if you have no training in fighting then you just lose.

It's not the American troop's country either but they seem to kill enough enemy in their way.

It's US training and weapons that's doing it.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

We should have left Saddam there. he was a dictator, but his shit on lockdown...no islamic terrorist could survive there under Saddams ruling fist.

Some people just didn't get the concept of "a necessary evil".

Big egos thought we could do it all better; so far we've done none of it better.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

We should have left Saddam there. he was a dictator, but his shit on lockdown...no islamic terrorist could survive there under Saddams ruling fist.

[GregE]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

We should have left Saddam there. he was a dictator, but his shit on lockdown...no islamic terrorist could survive there under Saddams ruling fist.

Agreed in full.

Hell, even Bush Sr. was smart enough to know that.

[GregE]

Originally Posted by Rochard

If the Iraqis are unable to fight after the twenty billion dollars we invested in their military... They deserve it.

The Kurds and the Shiite militias (and a few tribes here and there) are the only Iraqis with testicles who are opposed to ISIS.

The smart move would be to disarm and disband Iraq's worse than useless official "army" and give their weapons to the Kurds and to the Shiite militias.

But that would make too much sense, so it'll never happen.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

You can bring all the morale in the world into the ring but if you have no training in fighting then you just lose.

It's not the American troop's country either but they seem to kill enough enemy in their way.

It's US training and weapons that's doing it.

Well, we know they have the training because they were trained by the best.

Morale is something you can't teach. They don't give a shit -- that's why they run from a fight.

Imagine where we'd be now if we bent over for the British when they occupied the colonies. We gave a fuck, and took what was ours.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

We should have left Saddam there. he was a dictator, but his shit on lockdown...no islamic terrorist could survive there under Saddams ruling fist.

Thank you, Bush family.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Well, we know they have the training because they were trained by the best.

Morale is something you can't teach. They don't give a shit -- that's why they run from a fight.

Imagine where we'd be now if we bent over for the British when they occupied the colonies. We gave a fuck, and took what was ours.

You can not get 25 years of experience in 10 years no matter who is training you.

Your morale is high when you know you can fight and win, otherwise it goes does.

You keep thinking that an army can learn how to fight in a 5 minute session.
An Army that effectively fought Iran for a decade was dismantled by America and
this is a result of that.
Why do you even bother to debate such obvious failure?

The British analogy :

- The Brits didn't have road side bombs, beheading videos, rocket launched grenades, AK47s or suicide bombers.

- The Brits had muskets and horses but every American had a musket and a horse too.

- The Brits faced a brand new fighting method they had never seen before as Native Americans fought the Brits too.

- Terrible analogy

[AntonMG]

In 2003, France made a speech advising NOT to go in Iraq (and ended up not going).
Adding that attacking Iraq would lead to dissension and a surge of terrorism.

For those with a short attention span, you can jump to minute 12.