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Old 06-09-2015, 10:17 AM   #101
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DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDUDE

You are making this fake case that he is racist.

You don't know who anyone is. Some were residents. Some weren't.

You just can't possibly imagine that he had some evidence as to who should be there and who shouldn't?

It's just not possible in your mind that he had no idea at all who were residents? Thats the first fucking thing you start to sort out.
For all you know, that might have been going on for 20 minutes BEFORE teh video started. You literally have zero information and a desperate to find or create evidence to support a narrative which just isn't supported by fact.

What does this say about you,... and your seemingly desperate need to see racism?

Are you related to Racemonkey?


That just further strengthens my argument that the police officer should have demanded that both the black and white people stand back. But he does not do that. Since it is likely possible that the officer had no idea who belong there and who didn't, the reasonable thing to do is demand everyone stand back until everything is sorted out.
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the logic behind thinking that cop needed to clear everyone out to avoid being racist is not valid.

i mean really.
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There were only a few "white" guys there. Odds are they were home owners and very obviously not part of the party crashing crowd based on age alone. That should be quickly apparent to anyone watching the video.

(they could also have been part of the "security" that called the cops)

Wasn't there, don't know, but .......


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There's one white guy standin directly over the black girl on the ground. Not a word said to him. If the officer is trying to get people to stand back so he can sort things out, then it should apply to all people, not just the black ones.
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And of course, blacks are standing around watching as well... but somehow, they are assumed not to be homeowners o residents by these clowns. How racist is that?

No one said the black should have been allowed to just stand around. No one should be just standing around if a police officer tells them to stand back...not black people, not white people.

And by the way, the black girl in the bikini was already leaving when the officer grabbed her from behind.
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It's obvious the video didn't show everything. No video can show everything. Its also obvious the video shows the cop insisting the black kids to clear out, but never the white adults. That doesn't make any sense if the cop was truly interested in clearing out people so he could figure things out...like he claimed in the video.
You mean, because there is a great chance the adults actually live there?
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Like I said, if the cop was truly interested in hqaving people stand back so he can figure things out, he would have insisted that both the black kids and the white adults to stand back...regardless of whether or not they lived in that neighborhood. But the cop doesn;t do that. he allows the white guys to stand right over the bikini clad teenager on the ground. Why?
haha, it is difficult to word things so they don't sound insulting to the feeble minded but take a look at the video again. Does it look like anyone was following instructions?
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There's one white guy standin directly over the black girl on the ground. Not a word said to him. If the officer is trying to get people to stand back so he can sort things out, then it should apply to all people, not just the black ones.
We don't live in your world,.. where everyone is an innocent victim and where all trespassing thugs are really just basket weaving, flower arranging poets. Other deeply flawed and unreasonable people like me look at the video and see a bunch of people being told to stop, all scattering - presumably the people who were there, who shouldn't have been there who were fighting and starting trouble.

Obviously, the officer was trying to get all the idiots that were not supposed to be there, that were destroying property and fighting to stop scattering. I'd guess the white guy that offends you so deeply wasn't trespassing, fighting, destroying property and WAS supposed to be there.... where others were trespassing. The fact that he has a right to be there, doesn't make the officer racist for trying to sort out and deal with those who didn't... the very reason he was called to begin with.

The officer went too far with the girl in most peoples opinion and mine as well. However, that has NOTHING to do with him trying to round up a couple dozen assholes that were there, who shouldn't be there, starting shit and starting fights and breaking things.... vs the residents (both black and white) who called the police and are helping sort things out.
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There's one white guy standin directly over the black girl on the ground. Not a word said to him. If the officer is trying to get people to stand back so he can sort things out, then it should apply to all people, not just the black ones.
who was that white guy? an undercover cop? the officer's boss? the pool manager? the guy who called the cops?
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who was that white guy? an undercover cop? the officer's boss? the pool manager? the guy who called the cops?
The white guy standing there is proof positive the cop is racist... even though other black parents are standing around as well. In his mind, the adult blacks can't possibly be home owners and residents... but he's not racist.
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You mean, because there is a great chance the adults actually live there?


haha, it is difficult to word things so they don't sound insulting to the feeble minded but take a look at the video again. Does it look like anyone was following instructions?

Even if all the white guys lived there, it still doesn't make sense to only require the black kids to stand back. The office claimed he wanted to space to sort things out. So everyone should have ben required to give him space regardless of whether or not they lived there. All the other cops seemed to act normally except the shorty one.

And it's not like the white guys were undercover cops anyhow...unless there was an undercover sting operation going on at the same time at that location lol
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You mean the tax payers will again have to pay for a bunch of shit disturbing assholes from a bad neighborhood with shitty parenting. After all, there would have been no need for police, had a bunch of dickheads not decided to go start shit somewhere they weren't supposed to be.

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The white guy standing there is proof positive the cop is racist... even though other black parents are standing around as well. In his mind, the adult blacks can't possibly be home owners and residents... but he's not racist.
the need to make this a black v white issue is behind the false narrative and huge assumptions needed to fulfill the need
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You are making this fake case that he is racist.

You don't know who anyone is. Some were residents. Some weren't.

You just can't possibly imagine that he had some evidence as to who should be there and who shouldn't?

It's just not possible in your mind that he had no idea at all who were residents? Thats the first fucking thing you start to sort out. For all you know, that might have been going on for 20 minutes BEFORE teh video started. You literally have zero information and a desperate to find or create evidence to support a narrative which just isn't supported by fact.

What does this say about you,... and your seemingly desperate need to see racism?

Are you related to Racemonkey?
Of course, everyone who thinks you're a fucking idiot is related to Brassmonkey.
Yeah, that's it, they are all brassmonkey.
No way are you simply a fucking idiot.

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Undercover cop called in to break up an illegal pool party or girl fight. Barely plausible.
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there you go assuming, no one suggested an under cover cop called in to break up an illegal pool party or girl fight.

the only fact you know is that you do not know who that guy is and why the cop did not feel threatened by him. you can guess and call the cop a racist because he didn't act threatened toward the fat guy, but several of us are trying to point out that's a huge leap.
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You might as well post a link to dead-Racist-Asshole.com, it has the same credibility.

So... you're thinking the second video showing something different from the same event is invalid because of one link of 10's of 1000s where that same exact video was posted was used?

Thats what passes for "intelligence" in the Section 8 part of town?
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there you go assuming, no one suggested an under cover cop called in to break up an illegal pool party or girl fight.

the only fact you know is that you do not know who that guy is and why the cop did not feel threatened by him. you can guess and call the cop a racist because he didn't act threatened toward the fat guy, but several of us are trying to point out that's a huge leap.
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i mean really.


that's why i mentioned to thesquealer that logical questions and comments won't get very far with you.


taking a fragment out of a sentence and pointing to it out of context doesn't have anything at all to do with the only fact you know and that's you do not know who that guy is.

shuck and jive on what i stated all you want, but just like your calling that cop a racist and motivated by racism, it doesn't make it so.
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I saw it yesterday on the news, he clearly lost it.
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the logic behind thinking that cop needed to clear everyone out to avoid being racist is not valid.

i mean really.
it was a crowd! you having multiple suspects letting whites run all over without questions does not look good.
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it was a crowd! you having multiple suspects letting whites run all over without questions does not look good.
i don't disagree that is does not look good but from where we are looking we can't see everything.

This is a very complicated case, You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous that we don't yet know. Certain things haven't come to light.


for instance, what if the call to some of the cops described the suspects as African-American? just who is the fatso white guy? etc et al, on & on, blah blah.
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i don't disagree that is does not look good but from where we are looking we can't see everything.

This is a very complicated case, You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous that we don't yet know. Certain things haven't come to light.


for instance, what if the call to some of the cops described the suspects as African-American? just who is the fatso white guy? etc et al, on & on, blah blah.
the fat guy was at the fight! watch the fight video! when they locked grabbing hair he was telling them to leave.
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the fat guy was at the fight! watch the fight video! when they locked grabbing hair he was telling them to leave.
so who is he then?
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Funny how the conversation turns from a cops excessive use of force to "the cop is racist because a white guy is standing there"

What a bunch of fucking morons. Of the many cognitive biases, this is called "confirmation bias", you look for info that supports what you want to conclude and ignore that which challenges what you want to conclude.

Fact 1 aasshole punks showed up to crash party
Fact 2 asshole kids started fighting and destroying property according to black witness
Fact 3 cop shows up, starts untangling the mess, and only a part of what he was doing was on video
Fact 4 some people we're standing around, both black and white - obviously not a part of the problem or disturbance
fact 5 officer finally loses his shit when trying round up a bunch of people who should t have been there

What do idiots take away from that? "The officer is racist because there was a white guy just standing theret"

Wow

This is the world which the lowest common denominator is creating... the biggest idiots, thanks to the internet now have the loudest voice. One guy arguing here is a compulsive liar and perpetual race baiting asshole, another thinks he is only alive because Obama magically lowered the price of gas and another that will say anything, no matter how irrational or irrelevant, in the hope that you'll just give up so he can declare himself "winner" and his warped interpretation of events, fact". In the meantime all of the problems with the black community will still exist, same drop out rates, same single parent rates, same murder rates, same disproportionate percent of the prison population and so on.

Way to fight for the truth, gather the facts and really try to make a difference in this "unfair" world.
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Maybe the fat guy was an undercover cop? LOL
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Maybe the fat guy was an undercover cop? LOL
He threw out hypotheticals to illustrate the fact that YOU don't know who he is. Having your stupidity highlighted, your defense is to then pick one of those hypotheticals and try to argue that it's stupid as if anything was suggested as fact and where you still obviously have no point as you are 100% clueless as to who he is or why he is standing here, yet somehow 100% certain that the officer is racist because he is standing there.

I've seen drunk, bipolar and hysterical woman on their period, make more solid arguments than that
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Maybe all the white guys were undercover cops, and all the black guys were illegal trespassers. There's a "hypothetical" for you. LOL
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As I understand it this cop was NOT "untangling the mess, and only a part of what he was doing was on video".

Apparently he was the last cop there. The other cops had already arrived and were calmly taking care of the situation.

This cop came flying up in his car, came running out cursing and escalated a situation that the other police officers already had under control.

I don't see a racist cop...I see a power crazy idiot who has no business being on the police force to begin with. If he's actually racist as well...who gives a fuck. The bottom line is that this guy has no business being in a position of authority in any way, shape, or form.
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the need to cling to this being racially motivated is weird to me.

especially using the *the cop let the old fatso white guy stand there* logic.
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Watch out that fat white guy might be deep undercover...infiltrating gangs of black youth intent on invading community swimming pools.
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yes, all cops look like the cop in terminator 2



there are no plains clothes out of shape cops on the beat in Texas.
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WTF is that bitch holding? Jesus Christ! Talk about militarization of the police force!
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the need to cling to this being racially motivated is weird to me.

especially using the *the cop let the old fatso white guy stand there* logic.
If you look at the video, the fat white guy, and a couple others, along with the cop, are all "keeping the peace"

Now that I watch it again, the black mothers in the background, watched. They didn't hold the kids back or try to physically stop them, only the white men. weird but whatever. Maybe they're smart
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Old 06-09-2015, 03:17 PM   #139
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WTF is that bitch holding? Jesus Christ! Talk about militarization of the police force!
Actually I would rather see a cop aiming a precision rifle than a shotgun or a pistol whose rounds will go who knows where.


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If you look at the video, the fat white guy, and a couple others, along with the cop, are all "keeping the peace"

Now that I watch it again, the black mothers in the background, watched. They didn't hold the kids back or try to physically stop them, only the white men. weird but whatever. Maybe they're smart
oh, i'm with you, i've watched all the videos i can google on it at least a few times each, it's a fucked up sitch. but yeah, one of the first things that concerned me/caught my eye was that guy and how he was watching over whatever, as if he was going to spring to action in some way. i certainly don't think he was undercover or some super cop, but he's creepy.

i didn't notice the moms in the background, i'll catch that next time i view this cluster fuck. a lot more will certainly be revealed and it's a major concern to have a cop that mishandles that 14 year old girl in this situation.
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Actually if you watch the video she disperse. She was still talking shit but she was walking away. Regardless she was a child dressed in a bikini and what he did was unnecessary. Cops are taught how to disperse crowds. One of the main things they are taught is to do it calmly and not antagonize the situation.

He was just pissy because he was being robo cop and fell and looked retarded when running in and thought he had to save face. You can hear kids openly and laughing at him when he fell. He heard that shit and was embarrassed. Look at the scene where the kids bring the one cop who is calmly talking to a group of kids the flashlight and then this robo-cop runs over screaming and cussing at them. Why is one cop talking calmly and telling the kids to never run when the cops show up and this other guy runs over and interrupts him and starts slinging kids to the ground? That was unnecessary. When you have a group of cops who are all calmly talking and calmly doing their job and one asshole running around screaming something is wrong with that picture. Then when he pulled his gun and was pointing it at the 2 boys if you watch the video closely you will see the other 2 cops that ran up to him one of them actually pushed his gun hand down some and moved between them. Why would he do that? Because his initial first reaction was wtf is my partner / co-worker doing? Then he for whatever reasons thought better of it and ran off to chase down the 2 boys.



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Here's another good question - why was she still in the area when told to disperse?
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You do realize that one white guy was actually helping the cop and keeping the kids back while this was going on? My guess was he was security. However if he was just some random white guy he had already shown himself to be helping the cop so wtf reason would the cop have for sending that guy away?

As far as the white kid filming the video if you WATCH it you will see that white kid started recording right when the officers ran up and was 1/10th of a mile away from where the kids that ran were at and where the fight was at. He then FOLLOWED the cops so anybody with a brain could reasonably assess the kid was not part of the fight or part of the ones who ran being the cops PASSED him to get where it was going on.

That cop might be a racist. He might not be. This video in no way shows that answer. All it shows is he was an asshole lunatic picking on some disorderly kids and slinging his dick around and his gun around too to prove he was topdog.

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There's one white guy standin directly over the black girl on the ground. Not a word said to him. If the officer is trying to get people to stand back so he can sort things out, then it should apply to all people, not just the black ones.
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The cop resigned today.

The police force really doesn't need high strung fucks like that dealing with the public.
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I think it is safe to say that race aside, whether or not these kids were invited or crashed a pool party, a cop shouldn't be flinging a teenage girl to the ground, dragging her by her hair then sitting on top of her like a hunter claiming a prize.
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I think it is safe to say that race aside, whether or not these kids were invited or crashed a pool party, a cop shouldn't be flinging a teenage girl to the ground, dragging her by her hair then sitting on top of her like a hunter claiming a prize.
I can see where there's a rare kind of situation when a cop would need to do what you described above. This was clearly not one of them.


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The fact that the cop is out of control or crossed the line is obvious. Arguing that he's racist is idiotic and also typical of the usual offenders..
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I can see where there's a rare kind of situation when a cop would need to do what you described above. This was clearly not one of them.


Agreed. There are situations when the police really need to be aggressive, but this was clearly not one of them. All he did was cost himself his job, likely going to cost the city he worked for some money and escalated the tension in the situation.
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I think it is safe to say that race aside, whether or not these kids were invited or crashed a pool party, a cop shouldn't be flinging a teenage girl to the ground, dragging her by her hair then sitting on top of her like a hunter claiming a prize.
Race aside? Why use logic and common sense? The BM's and the media will be up in arms.
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You do realize that one white guy was actually helping the cop and keeping the kids back while this was going on? My guess was he was security. However if he was just some random white guy he had already shown himself to be helping the cop so wtf reason would the cop have for sending that guy away?

As far as the white kid filming the video if you WATCH it you will see that white kid started recording right when the officers ran up and was 1/10th of a mile away from where the kids that ran were at and where the fight was at. He then FOLLOWED the cops so anybody with a brain could reasonably assess the kid was not part of the fight or part of the ones who ran being the cops PASSED him to get where it was going on.

That cop might be a racist. He might not be. This video in no way shows that answer. All it shows is he was an asshole lunatic picking on some disorderly kids and slinging his dick around and his gun around too to prove he was topdog.
Ya to the people that DON'T think this cop is racist you must not have watched the video. The first time I watched it I thought to myself. "The kid that recorded THIS video must have been invisible or white." The whole 7 mins he is talking to his black friends and while they are all told to sit down he is able to walk around and is never ONCE addressed by the cop. If the cop wasn't racist he should've had the white kid taping this video sit down or clear out of the area like he yelled at the black girls to do.
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The fact that the cop is out of control or crossed the line is obvious. Arguing that he's racist is idiotic and also typical of the usual offenders..
So if that was a blonde haired white girl, he would have done the same thing? The cops wouldn't have been there in the first place if there wasn't a report of "black people at a pool in white people's neighborhood".

Get your head out of the sand.
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