Trump Says U.S. Can Pay for Border Wall, Bill Mexico Later

[Barry-xlovecam]

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...l-mexico-later

Mexico: Check is in the mail ...

[Barry-xlovecam]

^^ send them the bill

As for the compulsion to "Tweet' so much? WTF?

[mineistaken]

what happened to your narrative that there won't be wall all together? Picking whatever you get, huh?

[beerptrol]

lol the Trumpanzees believe him!

[Odysseus]

Trump is the BEST!

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

what happened to your narrative that there won't be wall all together? Picking whatever you get, huh?

don't you feel the 2x4 up your ass ?

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...l-mexico-later

Mexico: Check is in the mail ...

No , it is in the swamp ... still not drained .

[Barry-xlovecam]

How's this idea?

Send every Trump voter a bill for $345. Still want to build that wall -- Pay Up!

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[Bladewire]

Repeal & replace Obama care = repeal with no plan to replace, they'll figure it out later.

Make Mexico pay for a border wall = taxpayers pay $25,000,000,000 for a fence & no plan on how to make Mexico pay, they'll figure it out later.

See the trend here? No plan on how to govern. Republicans have had 7 years to plan a repeal/replace strategy and they have nothing.

A whole year to plan for a Mexico payment plan and nothing.

[2MuchMark]

Wait, What? Donald Trump broke a Promise? Impossible! Trumptrain'MERICA!

[Rochard]

Mexico is never going to pay for a wall.

In fact, we are never going to build a wall. Trump made this a huge part of his campaign. You know how this will go down. Three years from now (If trump is still in office and running again) they will go down to parts of the this "border wall" and see nothing more than a barbed wire fence.

[pimpmaster9000]

but is he still going to loot iraqi oil to pay for the invasion over invisible WMD and saudi 9/11?

[VRPdommy]

Trump will never be able to do more than Obama has to restrict Mexican Immigrants.

Since the election was over, Trump stated he did not want to throw them all out .
What he has said he wants to do was 'JUST GO AFTER THE CRIMINALS' and throw them out.
WELL... That is what Obama exactly did via executive order that got everyone in a stir.
It was a matter of spending a shrinking budget more effectively.
Where is the anger for Trump doing it. So Trump is going to resend Obama's executive order and make one of them same in his name?

The Republican Money Base wants the cheap labor and the suppression of wages in general.
That is why every time they think there could be a agreement on immigration, it gets busted with some BS by a few strong members in Congress .
The last time it was "Rewarding the immigrants with citizenship".
Because that would mean they would have to pay them minimum wages. And those that employ them would pay more taxes and have to provide a safe working environment.
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN !

So it is better to have them here illegally than to give them citizenship and pay taxes ?
You only have 3 choices.
Leave it alone,
send them all back
or make them citizens.
It's not rocket science but nothing will change except the perception of change. Once Again !

[Barry-xlovecam]

Nobody really should have a problem with anyone working and paying taxes -- citizen or not.

If anyone can prove that have a job, been in the country for some qualifying time, and pass a criminal check then pass a 'terrorist affiliation' background check -- why should they not be allowed to stay?

Give the employer and the immigrant amnesty -- then make them come clean of any past due taxes ... work it out?

[brassmonkey]

attack the employers! why would you build a bigger wall?? no jobs no money!!!

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

If anyone can prove that have a job, been in the country for some qualifying time, and pass a criminal check then pass a 'terrorist affiliation' background check -- why should they not be allowed to stay?

This sounds like a good idea in concept but there are a few issues with this.

The first problem is if they have come here illegally they have broken dozens of laws. Not only immigration, but local laws. There was one college student in Georgia who got pulled over by campus police. It turns out she had been in the US for some time - she had worked here illegally, didn't have a driver's license, insurance, etc. We cannot allow people to come to the United States illegally, break our laws, and then reward them with citizenship.

Also, we cannot just allow "everyone" to come over. We have to have some kind of limits or we will have billions of people come over.

We should also give people "long term temporary" Visas, meaning twenty or thirty years. My brother-in-law is married to a woman from Cuba; Her and her sister actually come into the country on a boat with their kids. Shortly after she became a US citizen she went on disability and has been on disability for over a decade now. If that is not enough, one of the kids that came over "on the boat" became a drug addict, got married, spit out seven kids, which are all now wards of the state. It's entirely possible this family has cost American taxpapers hundred of thousands of dollars.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

what happened to your narrative that there won't be wall all together? Picking whatever you get, huh?

There wont be a wall. Mexico was never going to pay for one, anyone with a brain understood that. Trump is just going to try to blame Congress now because they obviously will never fund such a stupid thing.

You will go rah rah go Trump.. at everything he fails at because as always, right wing retards have someone else to blame. Everyone but themselves.. The original dindos..

[bronco67]

Trump has created a reality where immigration is this huge problem.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Chronic unemployment, state support payment (welfare, disability, SSI) are commonplace among natural born citizens as well as refugees and immigrants alike. Red Herring argument.

If employers knew they would be liable for back employment payroll taxes on under-the-table wages paid -- maybe they would not hire illegals in the first place...

They would just tunnel under any border wall if they knew a 'pot of gold' was on the other side ... Waste of money and a feel good answer that won't work out anyway (or never happen).

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Trump has created a reality where immigration is this huge problem.

maybe the reality was created by juan francisco lopez-sanchez, who murdered an innocent US citizen kathryn steinle after being deported numerous times & coming back. maybe a wall wouldve saved that innocent girls life.

but what the fuck do you care, liberal? all that matters to you is skin color. not being american.

fuck off.

[brassmonkey]

done they are already doing it! we need to do employers and boom it's done! and start hitting landlords and schools!

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Chronic unemployment, state support payment (welfare, disability, SSI) are commonplace among natural born citizens as well as refugees and immigrants alike. Red Herring argument.

If employers knew they would be liable for back employment payroll taxes on under-the-table wages paid -- maybe they would not hire illegals in the first place...

They would just tunnel under any border wall if they knew a 'pot of gold' was on the other side ... Waste of money and a feel good answer that won't work out anyway (or never happen).

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by crockett

There wont be a wall.

there will be a wall, for the sole reason that everything that comes out of your dumb mouth is 100% wrong.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

there will be a wall, for the sole reason that everything that comes out of your dumb mouth is 100% wrong.

You live in a world of denial and fantasy.

[directfiesta]

At least , the repubes are cutting federal expenses ... unlike the demorats

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

At least , the repubes are cutting federal expenses ... unlike the demorats

You do know that the Trump MaWall will require about 339 Million cubic feet of concrete (3 times more than the Hoover Damn) and will add at least $12 Billion dollars in federal expenses, right? Aren't you taxed enough already?

And isn't the wall a really stupid idea since more Mexicans left the US than entered? And that more Mexicans enter the US by plane and not by ground?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by crockett

You live in a world of denial and fantasy.

He does. He really does.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

At least , the repubes are cutting federal expenses ... unlike the demorats

Republicans only want to spend and go into debt. Big multinational corporations will win, no U.S. citizen, from any party, wins.

Congress is a Republican majority and the POTDS will be Republican so there is no blaming Democrats for anything, especially things like making a $25 billion commitment to build a fence with no plan to pay the tax payers back.

[flashfire]

Trump supporters call democrats sheep

Lock her up: NOPE

Build a wall and Mexico pays for it: NOPE

he hasn't even taken office yet, you guys are in total damage control


US tax payers paying for the wall...Donald doesn't pay taxes lol

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

You do know that the Trump MaWall will require about 339 Million cubic feet of concrete (3 times more than the Hoover Damn) and will add at least $12 Billion dollars in federal expenses, right? Aren't you taxed enough already?

And isn't the wall a really stupid idea since more Mexicans left the US than entered? And that more Mexicans enter the US by plane and not by ground?

forgot to add :

/sarcasm

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

forgot to add :

/sarcasm

Oh.

[kane]

I'm sure Mexico will do everything in its power to pay that bill as soon as they get it.

[VRPdommy]

After the Republicans get their long awaited legislation past Trump, they will have little use for him.

So after his first 10 months, there will be a new reality show in the White House.

Nobody wins. It's all the same, only worse.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

done they are already doing it! we need to do employers and boom it's done! and start hitting landlords and schools!

As a landlord, I don't see how it would work. We only rent to people with SS #'s. But they can easily have fake numbers.

[beerptrol]

When a republican is president, the debt goes up.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

When a republican is president, the debt goes up.

they inflate cost and pocket money. both sides do it. the trump wall will have his name in gold letters! every 10 miles

[ReggieDurango]

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This scene explains exactly how The Wall will get financed!

[C H R I S]

President Douchebag

[Phoenix]

I thought he said this before? Tax tariffs and other such means will be how they lay for it.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...l-mexico-later

Mexico: Check is in the mail ...

And he is mad the news did not report this? Who knew? Hahahaha

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I thought he said this before? Tax tariffs and other such means will be how they lay for it.

He was going to withhold Western Union payments until it was paid. Seriously, this was his stated plan.

[caminsider]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...l-mexico-later

Mexico: Check is in the mail ...

Trump will make America great again!!

[Tasty1]

Letting Mexico pay is simple, just tax the car or other imports with x %.
Higher price of visas for mexican.
Etcetra.

Mexico has big problems now, the gasonline went up 20%
For some people that means they spent 25% of what they make a day on gasoline.
When it will getting worse, people find a way to go over or under the wall.
Met a lot of taxi drivers that work a few months in USA and than a few months in Mexico.

[nico-t]

every trump thread is like a massive pile of nude libbies getting off on each other over and over again, while sane people ignore them hows the circle jerk guys

[Barry-xlovecam]

It's not about taxing autos made in Mexico -- they won't sell any if the tariff is too high and US will collect no tariff on the autos they do not sell. First world auto factory production lines are highly automated with robots managed by computers, the computers managed by technicians -- welcome to the 21st century. The auto industry offer few low skilled jobs today.

Bad conditions on the southern border will only make illegal immigration worse -- wall or not. If you drove piling steel underground the tunnelers would just cut a hole through it -- this is a political folly.

[crockett]

It expired, they are waiting for the replacement to show up in the mail.

[bns666]

[blackmonsters]

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

It's not about taxing autos made in Mexico -- they won't sell any if the tariff is too high and US will collect no tariff on the autos they do not sell. First world auto factory production lines are highly automated with robots managed by computers, the computers managed by technicians -- welcome to the 21st century. The auto industry offer few low skilled jobs today.

Bad conditions on the southern border will only make illegal immigration worse -- wall or not. If you drove piling steel underground the tunnelers would just cut a hole through it -- this is a political folly.

Than you tax 1 - 5% and not 35%. Can be on any goods and import or export.
That will do, don't need to pay it at once, in the end you will collect enough.

Mexico has well educated people looking for jobs.
The free university in Mexico DF has 200.000 students... is a complete city.
And they need jobs too.

I was wrong, they already have over more than 300.000 students.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...sity_of_Mexico
Ps, safest place to buy weed in Mexico is at the university.

There are a lot of dutch businesses in Mexico.
A lot agricultural and they are doing very very well. Growth of 30% or more per year.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Europeans love to tax everything. LOL, I deal with that all too much.

The answer isn't taxes -- it's free global trade. Best product at the lowest price. National security can be preserved with limited subsidy to critical industries for domestic product only. However, consumers should be able to find the most competitive products or services globally. If you want quality -- pay for it -- buy USA or Western Europe if you see the quality -- don't buy domestic if it's the same shit you can get from Asia for 1/2 the price to support some failing political policy.

The USA invented the assembly line and much of modern production technology -- we can take the next step or the Chinese will beat us to it.

Your borders can transverse products and services or hostile armies -- which do you prefer? Trade wars start real wars historically -- the Great Depression and WW2 is proof enough.

[Joshua G]

nice to see a group of people that called the election all wrong pat each other on the back for being so smart.