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Old 06-26-2015, 10:39 AM   #1
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Will you consider adding one of Google's self-driven cars to your collection?

Assuming they ever come on the market.
Google tests self-driving cars: The latest models of Google's self-driving cars are cruising the streets near the Internet company's Silicon Valley headquarters. This marks the first time the pod-like, two-seat vehicles have been allowed on public roads since Google unveiled them more than a year ago. A human will also ride in the cars to take control in emergencies.



Since it created the project in 2009, Google has upgraded its fleet of cars from Priuses to Lexus S.U.V.s, and the navigational hardware, positioned in the vehicle trunk, is now more compact. Also, when the driver switches into autopilot, it no longer makes a neat, swooshing Star Trek sound effect. Rather, an anodyne female voice informs passengers that the car is now driving.

During the half-hour demonstration the one noticeable behavioral quirk that the Lexus exhibited was that it seemed to change lanes with emphasis. There was no gradually meandering from one lane to the next as a human driver might. The Google Lexus was all business.

Otherwise, it obeyed the speed limit, alerted the driver that it was approaching a crosswalk, and kept a close eye on the cars, pedestrians and bicyclists that were in its vicinity.

This could also have a major impact on the whole drunk-driving issue, no?

"But occifer, the *hic* car was driving. *hic*"

In actuality cops won't likely have reason to pull over someone making their way home in one of these while drunk, if these cars do what they're being touted as being able to do.

Way of the future? Or waste of time?

Would you ever consider buying one? Parents, buy one for your kid?
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Self-driving cars from rivals Google, Delphi in close call - Jun. 26, 2015



not just yet...
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it is nothing more a marketing gimmick
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Old 06-26-2015, 10:50 AM   #5
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Makes me think of Red Barcetta by Rush....

No idea if I would drive one or not. I am sure electric cars will be the normal in the next ten years - twenty at the most - and then self driving will be a short time after that.
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i would love to get drunk in the that self driving car.....alone .

i think its great thing , if it can do better than human. i can mind my own biz, while car drivers itself.,
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Um, really? So far with this technology they've logged something like 700,000 miles of testing, and there have be no actual accidents recorded.

Citing one close call in 4 years as a reason to dismiss is ridiculous.
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it is nothing more a marketing gimmick
Not at all - this is real. And it started back around 2005 I think. Look up "Darpa Challenge" and "Self driving car". It was really exciting to watch.

Tesla now has "Co Pilot" for the Model S and will soon be updating their software for self driving as soon as it becomes legal here in Canada. I can't wait.

Self-driving will be fantastic. Here's why:

- Your car can valet-park itself.
- Your car can drive you home when you're too tired, or drunk.
- Self driving cars are a lot safer than people-driven cars.

I *love* to driving, and the thought of handing the wheel over to a robot is kind of scary sometimes. But last week I was driving home from a long trip and found myself wishing for it.

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Any of you older farts recall the StarTrek TOS episode where Kirk was replaced by Dr. Dystrum's computer?

Didn't go well for the computer.
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it is nothing more a marketing gimmick
the self-driving vehicle is poised to disrupt several huge industries- deliveries, shipping, transporting people and things, etc

it is very much not any kind of gimmick at all.
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Not at all - this is real. And it started back around 2005 I think. Look up "Darpa Challenge" and "Self driving car". It was really exciting to watch.

Tesla now has "Co Pilot" for the Model S and will soon be updating their software for self driving as soon as it becomes legal here in Canada. I can't wait.

Self-driving will be fantastic. Here's why:

- Your car can valet-park itself.
- Your car can drive you home when you're too tired, or drunk.
- Self driving cars are a lot safer than people-driven cars.

I *love* to driving, and the thought of handing the wheel over to a robot is kind of scary sometimes. But last week I was driving home from a long trip and found myself wishing for it.

Cyberdyne is getting closer and closer every day.
they will never allow drunk use
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Um, really? So far with this technology they've logged something like 700,000 miles of testing, and there have be no actual accidents recorded.

Citing one close call in 4 years as a reason to dismiss is ridiculous.
Did I "dismiss" it? no. My subjective opinion is "not yet"

I'm not quite ready to relinquish all control until there are a lot more of them on the road and they have been used for several years by hundreds of thousands of everyday people in every possible scenario and condition with a total zero-incident record.

I do not have that much trust in the technology just yet, it's too new.
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Somebody still has to explain to me what will happen if you get someone around you do something stupid and dangerous, as it happens on a pretty much daily basis.

Will the AI anticipate what are the other drivers around you going to do? Because that's about the most important part of driving in traffic.

Either you'd have to switch all cars into self-driven, or you'll have a hard time to persuade me that riding in such car isn't vastly more dangerous than driving it yourself.
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Did I "dismiss" it? no. My subjective opinion is "not yet".
Yes, "not yet", which by the look of your post was based off of a link leading to an article which cites one lone incident of a "near miss".

Pardon me for reading dismissiveness into that. :D


I accept the rest of what you said, now that you've actually said it. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are going to feel skittish about relinquishing control of a moving vehicle to the vehicle itself. Hell, I know a few who can barely let another person drive their car, one of my sisters for one. This would absolutely drive her into the insane asylum.
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I am not putting my life in the hands of laggy google ai.
I'll also stay off the streets more, those vehicles will be spying on all of us, for real.

Plus in and of itself as a car, they will be initially super dangerous.

They clocked a lot of accidents in testing but lobbied states to hide that information.

Fuck google
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Yes, "not yet", which by the look of your post was based off of a link leading to an article which cites one lone incident of a "near miss".

Pardon me for reading dismissiveness into that. :D


I accept the rest of what you said, now that you've actually said it. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are going to feel skittish about relinquishing control of a moving vehicle to the vehicle itself. Hell, I know a few who can barely let another person drive their car, one of my sisters for one. This would absolutely drive her into the insane asylum.
I apologize for the brevity of my first post, it was getting close to drinking time and I had some tasks to finish up.

That being said, in reply to your op what I meant is the technology is far too immature for me to trust my life to it for now, until it has a much longer track record of zero errors I won't trust it, to me a near-miss is an error and as such factors into my thinking.











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I would love to own a self driving car but I wonder because of the novelty of them, just how much higher the insurance on these things will be.
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It sure will rely on google earth data, you can bet on that. You know the framework where all the photos overlap
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In the back seat of my Camaro with a cooler full of Peroni. Just gotta convert it to do that..
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until it has a much longer track record of zero errors I won't trust it, to me a near-miss is an error and as such factors into my thinking.
I doubt any technology like this is ever going to show zero errors.

Perhaps it's best if you were to weigh it's track record, say in a few more years, against that of what we have now with 100% people-driven vehicles, which as we all know has a relatively high volume of 'errors', crashes, injuries and fatalities.

If these auto-piloted cars prove to be even a little safer, then there's your answer.
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How will they know you're drunk?
That was my question as well intially. But then I thought about it this way; how do they know you're drunk now?

Answer: checkstops, mostly.

People going home drunk in one of these cars will (I would think, anyway) be just as prone to getting nabbed at a checkstop as any other motorist. Some might say that if the car itself is doing the driving then wouldn't that make you just another passenger?

Perhaps existing laws will be amended to say that at least one person in these cars has to be sober enough to take over the wheel should the need arise, and if they aren't they run the risk of a DUI.

I think I'd still rather have a bunch of drunks getting driven home by their cars than by driving themselves like they so often do.
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how do these cars spot the kid 30 yards ahead that you know is just about to run/cycle into the road from between 2 parked cars?

The only time I'll ever get in one of those is if there are literally no real cars left.
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That was my question as well intially. But then I thought about it this way; how do they know you're drunk now?

Answer: checkstops, mostly.

People going home drunk in one of these cars will (I would think, anyway) be just as prone to getting nabbed at a checkstop as any other motorist. Some might say that if the car itself is doing the driving then wouldn't that make you just another passenger?

Perhaps existing laws will be amended to say that at least one person in these cars has to be sober enough to take over the wheel should the need arise, and if they aren't they run the risk of a DUI.

I think I'd still rather have a bunch of drunks getting driven home by their cars than by driving themselves like they so often do.
^^^^ this

so far all proposed law around this that I read about required the driver being able to take over operation in case of malfunction/emergency

how this is going to work with the Google car that will have no steering wheel - i dont know. i guess it will have at least an emergency off button

call me old fashioned but i don't want a car without steering wheel where I am possibly driven into a canyon without being able to interfere
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call me old fashioned but i don't want a car without steering wheel where I am possibly driven into a canyon without being able to interfere
especially with how sat-navs are. maybe this is just a quicker way of culling the population, saving on fucking around with chemtrails, blowing up twin towers, mass shootings secretly engineered by 'them', and the introduction of all kinds of nasties in vaccines.

if self-driving cars suddenly start appearing if you fold banknotes a certain way, we can be assured something is up. I'll wager there's some koch brothers' money in all this somewhere as well.
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I think I'd still rather have a bunch of drunks getting driven home by their cars than by driving themselves like they so often do.
btw - the answer to that is called taxi

or even better - we have a service here that's called drink & drive - they show up with 2 drivers and drive you, your friends and your car home
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Somebody still has to explain to me what will happen if you get someone around you do something stupid and dangerous, as it happens on a pretty much daily basis.

Will the AI anticipate what are the other drivers around you going to do? Because that's about the most important part of driving in traffic.

Either you'd have to switch all cars into self-driven, or you'll have a hard time to persuade me that riding in such car isn't vastly more dangerous than driving it yourself.
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how do these cars spot the kid 30 yards ahead that you know is just about to run/cycle into the road from between 2 parked cars?

The only time I'll ever get in one of those is if there are literally no real cars left.

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Old 06-29-2015, 06:04 PM   #44
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btw - the answer to that is called taxi

or even better - we have a service here that's called drink & drive - they show up with 2 drivers and drive you, your friends and your car home
Those are great solutions, no question. Yet we still have drunk driving going on. Not to mention DUI-related deaths by the thousands every year. Thus your comment would be valid if for example this were an ideal world we live in. Tell me, do I really need to point out to you that it isn't? Taxis and driver services have been around for decades. The problem still exists. Perhaps it's time for a different strategy.

But here's a thought for everyone to chew on while we're on this subject.... what if, and just indulge me for a second... what if these auto-driven cars prove themselves safer than normal driving, sales of them really take off and get popular at some point, and then (here comes the real question) people, local DMV's, the government, etc, start noticing that --even though it's against the law to be intoxicated in one-- that instances of impaired driving charges, accidents, deaths etc, all start to dramatically DECREASE because more and more drunks and druggo's are letting their cars do the driving... what then? What if accident rates in general start dropping as more of these cars go on the road?

Do we as a society keep on check-stopping and arresting them? Or would you begin to consider the possibility that we should rethink such a law because, you know, it's saving lives!

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All hypothetical of course. (But not impossible) And btw, don't go assuming that I'll be among those running out at the first opportunity to buy one or anything. I can assure you that isn't the case. I'm merely asking questions.
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