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I AM JUSTDAVE !
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******Hey Mike South.. Not cool! You need to check your facts before slamming a mans good name!!****
Come on dude!!
You can easily contact Mark Schechter and get his side or ask him if this is true or not true. Answer this: Are you trying to get the truth or are you trying to slam and hurt a mans good name? Mark is one of the most stand up guys in this business. He is a very honest and straight up business man. He doesn't burn or fuck people over. Everyone on GFY can back me up on this fact. You need to get your facts straight and print a retraction immediately. Unless your point wasn't to get at the truth. I know your a better person than this. Please prove me right. My challenge to you: I got 10K in an envelope if you can prove or get proof that Mark tried to exchange sex for agency photos. If its true, should be easy to do. I will pay you and your female source. One thing I know, when there is money involved and the girls have real proof, they will step up and collect... Quote:
And as for girls rates: If the rate being offered is lower than the girls actual rate, they are informed prior to accepting the gig. Every girls rate for BG is between $1000-$1200. I call that their Brazzers rate. I get fucked and pay that all of the time. But Porno Dan and others budgets are lower. Usually between $600-$900 for BG. This will be the same girl I paid $1200 for. (Not Kidding!!!) Anyone can feel free to chime in. Been good friends with Mark for almost 10 years. I know him and his wife very well. Can stake my to kids lives that this is not true. Somebody has a serious Axe to grind, and is using Mike South to do it. Just Dave
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i bet this is gonna be a long thread.
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Gotta agree with JustDave on all of this. Mark is a good guy, not sure why Mike South printed all this without the facts.
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atmla is still listed at latata as a licensed agency.........
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You would hope Mike had real proof before posting something like that
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Lets see the response!
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Not taking sides, but what proof would that be? I mean if he really said - have sex with me and I will not charge you. How is it possible to have any proof of that, unless the girls was recording the convo.
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This is how Mike South writes that stuff..
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Captain Save a Ho strikes once again.
Consider the source, porn gossip isn't even worth .02 - lol
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I've shot a lot of his girls and have never had any issues with him and have only heard great things about him from his models that we've shot. I can't say this about all the agencies that I do business with but with ATMLA, never had an issue. ![]() |
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BREAKING news :
Porn agent guy tries to have sex with porn girl!!!! OH MY GOLLY GEE what is becoming of this world we live in! |
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Parking here - ordering a beer.
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Trust me, hypothetically if it was true, and a girl knew I had 10K for her to come forward, she would be contacting me directly with the proof and wanting the cash. I like Mike, I get along with Mike pretty well, but this is just wrong on so many levels. People in the know, know who the source is. Mike does a lot of good publicly calling people who are in the wrong out, but he is way off base on this one. Quote:
I agree with you, but Marks wife is a wonderful lady and beautiful person, he has kids and grandkids, this doesn't need to come up in a google search. Quote:
That is what he is to me too. But in addition to this, I have been good friends with him for almost 10 years. Done a lot of business with him on the production side as well as on the agency side, been friends with him, etc; this is way unnecessary bullshit that nobody needs to deal with. Its just wrong and very sad. Quote:
Anyone and everyone who knows Mark please feel free to chime in. Just Dave
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Mike South should take a lesson from Luke Ford (back when he ran his gossip site). All it takes is the right person to take action against him.
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But what proof might that be? It is not like she recorded the conversation and it is not like he laid out this offer on paper. So hypothetically if that was true she would not be able to produce any proof anyway..
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My experience of dealing with Mark at ATMLA is right in line with Dean's, Brian's, and Dave's--he's been a pleasure to work with, and very professional.
I had lunch with another LA agent recently, and he told me there was friction between Mark and some of the other LATATA members--but it was along the lines of Mark being competitive towards the other agents, and not because of any unethical behavior on his part. A few weeks ago, a former ATMLA girl who failed out of the business was spreading gossip about Mark and Kevin (another ATMLA agent) trying to fuck her, rip her off, etc. I wonder if it's the same girl who's now maligning Mark once again? |
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Some of you seem to be conflating my opinion with what is simply news...Opinion wise I dont think much of any of the agents...news wise when an agent gets booted from LATATA its news and you wont read it anyplace else...
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why you post Signbucks on site?
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I release three new titles a week, more than anyone left standing in Porn Valley, so if anyone is qualified to talk about production it is me. We agree that as far as rates go it is up to the model what rate they charge, not the agent. Models saying they are 'forced' to take a lower rate isn't true, they can and do decline shoots. Models have to accept the fact there are less than 50 scenes a day shot in Los Angeles, down from a peak of over 200. As a result rates have fallen. For example my shoots take less than 1/3 time of some other companies, that is why my rates are lower. When reporting something like Mark and LATATA it would behoove everyone involved if you stuck with the facts, not opinions or wild rumors.
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I can only go by who goes on the record and what they say. There's obviously a lot involved in the LATATA Decision...a lot I dont know about admittedly specially considering I am told the decision was unanimous, although one person wasnt there to vote in person. In the end itll all work itself out....interesting though when I had Derek Hay in my sights nobody was defending him....
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Mark is one of the good guys. This is absurd.
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Everyone knows where all this info is coming from.
I only ask that Mike start presenting all sides, as he said he would, which up to this point he has not. He has proven to be clearly biased. He's lost a lot of good followers due to this story. |
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I think you need to meet in the sauna to exchange the beef
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The main issue with Mark is his membership in the FSC. These are facts, perhaps you can publish them tomorrow.
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Does anyone even read Mike's site?
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I have no idea what this is about, but I've known Mark for years and never ever heard anyone speak badly of him.
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Another fucking copy and paste job from Mike. Come on man. Make a fucking call, then maybe you can have two sides to the story, ever think of that shit? I don't know man but just might be crazy enough to work.
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I have been dealing with Mark for many years. One of the hardest working, and most honest guys in the business. He and his wife have consistently proved they are both honest and trustworthy. He also repped my ex for many years (and still does)
Definitely a stand up guy. This "story" reeks of bullshit. Mike you are going to need to clarify your article or face a lot of dissent from the people who count. ![]() |
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The article is funny. "It is also interesting that he apparently has no Drivers License." Pretty sure he had a license on him when he drove us to lunch last time I saw him and pretty sure I saw it when he paid (was his turn)...
Mike, nothing against you but this story is very off. You got beef with Mark just talk to him...seriously. Mark is a great guy and has been around this business long enough to not fuck around, trust me he is in for pure profit and has an OCD level of detail with everything. There are many fucked up people in this business...many studio owners, some agents, and internet companies as we all know but Mark is one of the few stand-up guys. ![]()
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Mike can't say "I'm writing my opinion" yet "report" that Mark wanted to exchange sex for photos. It is simply not true, not the Mark I know. Like Dave I know him personally and his wife.
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It's Mike South for god sake, it's an entertainment site, not a news site.
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If you ONLY Hear one side of the story then print the report, not slander against the guy unless you know it as fact. Your "facts" are likely some unhappy 19 year old wanting to make her agent look bad.
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Same reason Main stream media does it. Sensationalism makes cash.
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I don't have a dog in this fight either way, but is it really so surprising that a "journalist" would post false information they got from "anonymous sources"?
Turn to any "news" channel out there today and it's 90% bullshit made up by these so called "journalists" these days... nothing more than fodder for clicks and views. So a note to everyone, unless sources and facts are provided, read everything a "journalist" writes as sheer bullshit, because 99.9999% of the time that is exactly what it is. Bullshit fodder for clicks in this case... |
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True, just below that of a satirical comic strip where you mostly laugh at the artist rather than laugh with him.
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Given the nature of the accusation you would think Mike would have checked why there was a LATATA vote, what was behind it and what the results were BEFORE going to print. Rather than skip any possible fact checking and draw magical line of correlation and causation. From what Porno Dan posted it would seem at issue is only his connection to the FSC. Would have been easy enough to publish a post on that alone... |
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I hear you but really does anyone still take him serious?
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Mark is good people.
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I don't post often on this board but felt the need to throw in my 2 cents... As a guy that was one of Mark's biggest competitors for many years (I used to own PremiumCash), I can say that he's one of the most stand up guys I've met in this business. Our companies were always in fierce competition signing models to web deals and he always acted like a true professional. After selling PremiumCash, i actually bought half of BlazingBucks and can tell you that one of the biggest assets that company possessed was Mark's goodwill...I have never heard someone say a bad word about him. Mark is a businessman and maybe that's something that the other agents in this industry fear...have you ever thought of that Mike South???
As for someone mentioning something about the $20 charge for testing being the reason for a vote being held to get Mark out of LATATA ...that is just plain laughable. Our companies shot a little north of 60 scenes last month and out of almost 140 talent bookings I was charged the $20 on 3 or 4 of them I believe...and have ONLY been charged this by 1 agent in the industry. I really think that Mike South, at the very least owes Mark a call to get his side of all this because I really feel that this could damage the credibility of your blog... I can assure you this thread will go on and on with people who have known Mark for years and you will be hard pressed to find 1 person to say a bad thing about him...remember credibility is like virginity ...once you lose it, you can never get it back.
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this isn't journalism. this is for attention. and the worst part is all these accusations you're slinging around you're trying to cover up by saying it's "news" cause he might be voted out? the fucked up part is now his name will be tied to all this bs you're writing. real journalists check their source's information
like everyone already said, he's one of the last good guys in this business. don't try to fuck that up. and i don't even know anyone else in this thread personally so i'm not taking sides or biased. dealt with him before he was even with atmla, and he was just as stand up back then with blazing.
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Has South ever relied on facts? Why would he start now?
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ATMLA, Kicking The Hornets Nest
By Mike South October 8th, 2014 It’s been a long time since I it a topic that has sparked as much debate as this one, from twitter to GFY and beyond ATMLA is the talk of the town and there isn’t much neutral ground. In the end ATMLA is currently out of LATATA by a majority vote, in a month they could be re-admitted though it seems doubtful. The Big Issues with LATATA seem to be Mark Schechters methods to bring the organization closer to The Free Speech Coalition and his practice of way undercutting talent rates. On the directors side Mark seems to have strong support, most of them like him, their detractors say its because they are getting boy girl scenes from him for as low as 400 or 500 dollars. On the talent side most do not like him, saying he strong arms them to accept lower rates, that they are getting harassed in his model house, that he is sending them on BDSM shoots without fully explaining what they will be subjected to and that the percentage he charges is too high in order to make up the lost money for cutting their rates. Their detractors say hey this is simply the economics of the time and talent is bitter because less work being available acts to drive down prices. Fans and outside observers generally dont like agencies altogether, suggesting that talent should self book and avoid them altogether. They also seem to think that the agencies push the girls into prostitution. It will all shake out in the end ut as evidenced by the responses to the article it is something that prolly needed to be talked about…
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500 anonymous fans have emailed him. That's how it usually goes, right?
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