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Old 07-28-2015, 03:55 PM   #1
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Stephen Hawking/Steve Wozniak warns of Artificial Intelligence global warfare

LONDON -- Scientists and tech experts - including professor Stephen Hawking and Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak - warned Tuesday of a global arms race with weapons using artificial intelligence.

In an open letter with hundreds of signatories, the experts argued that if any major military power pushes ahead with development of autonomous weapons, "a global arms race is virtually inevitable, and the endpoint of this technological trajectory is obvious: autonomous weapons will become the Kalashnikovs of tomorrow."

Some people have argued in favour of robots on the battlefield, saying their use could save lives. Such weapons are still years away.

But the scientists warned that, unlike nuclear weapons, once they are developed they will require no costly or hard-to-obtain raw materials - making it possible to mass-produce them.

"It will only be a matter of time until they appear on the black market and in the hands of terrorists, dictators wishing to better control their populace, warlords wishing to perpetrate ethnic cleansing, etc.," the letter said.

The signatories included leading figures globally in academia and business studying artificial intelligence -- the idea that computer systems could replicate tasks normally requiring human intelligence, such as language translation or visual perception. They were joined by philosophers, historians, sociologists and geneticists.

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Old 07-28-2015, 03:58 PM   #2
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Steve Wozniak warns window's users ...... lol.
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Steve Wozniak warns window's users ...... lol.
You can just hear it now - "Fifty bucks says my windows robot can wipe out your mac robot."
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You can just hear it now - "Fifty bucks says my windows robot can wipe out your mac robot."
My mac robot will look so much better than your windows robot.

WAIT WAIT a new robot is about to come out ... can I make my old robot save my place in line?
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The letter is very noble.

However nobody in power will listen.

The thought of 50 well armed and very refined Boston Dynamics big dogs and a couple of autonomous drones for air support being used for 'crowd control' or anti-protest operations is truly scary and just around the corner.
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My mac robot will look so much better than your windows robot.

WAIT WAIT a new robot is about to come out ... can I make my old robot save my place in line?
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Anyone ever read The Minerva Virus?

Warned about this long ago
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Anyone ever read The Minerva Virus?

Warned about this long ago
2006 (but looks interesting)

Dean Koontz's "Demon Seed" (1973) and the Terminator (1984) pre-dated it. And many more pre-dated those...

It's not that this is a new revelation by any stretch. It's been a sci-fi scenario for generations.

It's more to do with Hawking and Wozniak and other high-profile people making the warnings.
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Or, from Kung Fu Panda, "A man often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it"
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Or, from Kung Fu Panda, "A man often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it"
"The Appointment in Samarra" (W. Somerset Maugham's version)
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Finally there will be some intelligent beings on the planet even if they are mechanical.

I hope they wipe out the entire human species since they will certainly see it as a harmful virus like organism which only does harm.
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Finally there will be some intelligent beings on the planet even if they are mechanical.

I hope they wipe out the entire human species since they will certainly see it as a harmful virus like organism which only does harm.
There are days I'd tend to agree.

Examples to the contrary are becoming more scarce me thinks.
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2006 (but looks interesting)

Dean Koontz's "Demon Seed" (1973) and the Terminator (1984) pre-dated it. And many more pre-dated those...

It's not that this is a new revelation by any stretch. It's been a sci-fi scenario for generations.

It's more to do with Hawking and Wozniak and other high-profile attention whores making the warnings.
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Pretty much.. As soon as robots are capable of being militarized in mass, it will happen. It will likely be the U.S. Whom does it first ;only because we have the most technically advanced military) but Russia and others will follow. It will be the next nuclear arms race to create a robot army of mutual assured destruction.

The big boys won't use them on each other, but third world fuck holes better beware..

IMO it won't be terminator type robots of the movies, but rather millions of nano bots that are immune to conventional weapons due to size and number but could destroy pretty much anything..

I mean think about it.. Massive amounts of nano bots, could just go in and erase any sort of defense even with out killing people or they could just kill everyone.. Either way, same tool..
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This is an undeniable reality and the leader in the AI arena is, without a doubt, Russia. You should be VERY concerned as these government propaganda clips below (released over the last few months) show Mother Russia's AI prowess is the most advanced on planet earth. You have been warned:















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The us military is the largest employer on the planet, gonna be very difficult to disrupt that.
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Or, from Kung Fu Panda, "A man often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it"
I had a feeling such a great quote didn't originate from an animated children's movie


Our destiny is frequently met in the very paths we take to avoid it.
Book VIII (1678?1679), fable 16 (The Horoscope)
Variant: A person often meets his destiny on the road he took to avoid it.

Jean de La Fontaine (July 8 1621 ? April 13 1695) is the most famous French fabulist and probably the most widely read French poet of the 17th century.
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The only thing more scary than us and them having autobot weapons, is the thought of them having them and us not having them.
This is true and there is absolutely no way to escape it even though it will one day end in the extinction of the human race. I really don't see how we avoid armageddon as soon as 100 years - maybe 200 years. We've managed to avoid nuclear war for 70 years so I guess that's a reason to be optimistic, but we can't keep them out of the hands of lunatics forever and we're developing new fucked up weapons that can do almost as much damage as nuclear weapons.

We hold no particular special status in this universe, that we disappear is just Nature doing its thing.
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I had a feeling such a great quote didn't originate from an animated children's movie


Our destiny is frequently met in the very paths we take to avoid it.
Book VIII (1678?1679), fable 16 (The Horoscope)
Variant: A person often meets his destiny on the road he took to avoid it.

Jean de La Fontaine (July 8 1621 ? April 13 1695) is the most famous French fabulist and probably the most widely read French poet of the 17th century.
Straight back to the original source, well done my man
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I had a feeling such a great quote didn't originate from an animated children's movie


Our destiny is frequently met in the very paths we take to avoid it.
Book VIII (1678?1679), fable 16 (The Horoscope)
Variant: A person often meets his destiny on the road he took to avoid it.

Jean de La Fontaine (July 8 1621 ? April 13 1695) is the most famous French fabulist and probably the most widely read French poet of the 17th century.
I had a feeling the children's movie attribution would be understood as a jest... tough crowd
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Scary

Even more scary if you think about miniaturization. If robots (or drones) get so small that no fence or anti-aircraft gun can prevent them from entering your perimeter, you have the perfect assassin. Search for miniature drones on the Net and you will be amazed what's already on the market.
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Even more scary if you think about miniaturization. If robots (or drones) get so small that no fence or anti-aircraft gun can prevent them from entering your perimeter, you have the perfect assassin. Search for miniature drones on the Net and you will be amazed what's already on the market.
True, but they can be taken out with an EMP signal - unless they're somehow insulated.
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