Moral Dilemma - GoFuckYourself.com

clickity click · 06-07-2015, 03:31 PM

I am in the process of opening a bricks and mortar business.
It's something that's pretty new and until a few months ago when we decided to go ahead with the idea we only knew of one similar place but that was over 50 miles away.

Since then we have found the perfect location about 8 miles from our home and have brought it to within a week of opening.
We are now aware of a competitor that has opened a place in our home town, the place is bigger than ours (the owner used to run a restaurant and has had it converted).

From what I can see this guy doesn't have a website yet or Facebook page. I am considering registering his company name/town and redirecting it to ours.

Is this poor practice?

L-Pink · 06-07-2015, 04:05 PM

Seriously ............

Markonline · 06-07-2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by clickity click

Is this poor practice?

Probably, but with the ethics we once knew a mystery to most these days, why not.

In the long game, maybe project yours as the 'boutique' of quality product/s and service,
whilst projecting him as the 'lesser' store for the ill informed/advised consumers for your business.

Just tread with caution with any wording

Socks · 06-07-2015, 04:15 PM

Maybe you can convince google that his business address is in, say, a volcano and have GPS taking his customers to impending doom.

SilentKnight · 06-07-2015, 04:20 PM

Let me guess...vaping/e-cig sales?

clickity click · 06-07-2015, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Let me guess...vaping/e-cig sales?

incorrect

MiamiBoyz · 06-07-2015, 05:03 PM

What sort of business is it?

Sometimes a little bit of competition is a good thing. Gives people a chance to compare and may the best man win.

Also, depending on your market niche the area might be able to successfully sustain 2 businesses so why be a bitch and cybersquat their name?

Take the high road on this one (advise I rarely give and even more rarely do).

X_X_ROB_X_X · 06-07-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Maybe you can convince google that his business address is in, say, a volcano and have GPS taking his customers to impending doom.

mikesouth · 06-07-2015, 06:07 PM

loose the porn mentality

give your customers high quality at a fair price with good service

say what you do, do what you say....remember customers are too hard to get to lose them because of poor customer service.

do those things youll be fine

Sly · 06-07-2015, 07:18 PM

Sounds like you have serious issues defining what your priorities are.

gebu · 06-08-2015, 02:31 AM

Not a good idea

Markul · 06-08-2015, 02:36 AM

Since you clearly can't "handle" the competition, you are much better of ignoring them and focusing on your own business

(and because this is GFY, by handling, I do not mean take out or do nasty shit, I mean learning from them, adapting and so on)

Barry-xlovecam · 06-08-2015, 04:35 AM

If you ''post'' anything to this hypothetical Facebook name that would imply his place of business; you would be operating in impersonation and/or defamation -- you could get hit with a libel lawsuit.

Most businesses that are profitable have a lot of competitors. The lower the entry ''ticket price'' is -- the more competition there will be -- this is not to say that small consumer retail businesses cannot be profitable -- just more competitors will exist.

Concentrate on your own business' unique value proposition in its marketplace (your locality or intended geo targeting area). If you have the knowledge to leverage digital marketing and digital branding making that work driving floor traffic as well, or better than, old school advertising; newspaper ads, matchbooks, flyers, TV ads, billboards ... Then you already have an edge -- digital sabotage of your competitors is a poor short term strategy

CaptainHowdy · 06-08-2015, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

loose the porn mentality

That pretty much sums it all up ...

AdultKing · 06-08-2015, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by clickity click

Is this poor practice?

yes.

8char.

aka123 · 06-08-2015, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by clickity click

From what I can see this guy doesn't have a website yet or Facebook page. I am considering registering his company name/town and redirecting it to ours.

Is this poor practice?

I don't know; are frauds or identity thefts good practice?

Bladewire · 06-08-2015, 06:50 AM

How can this be a moral dilema for you? Your natural gut response is your nature. This cannot be unlearned. I can only say it's best you follow other peoples advice instead of your gut.

blackmonsters · 06-08-2015, 06:57 AM

Seems like the perfect way to let your competition know that you are the enemy.

AdultKing · 08-09-2015, 11:56 AM

Now he wants to scrape competitors content illegally and use it for himself.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...copy-shop.html

clickity click · 08-09-2015, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Now he wants to scrape competitors content illegally and use it for himself.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...copy-shop.html

You jump to conclusions Mr king.

AdultKing · 08-09-2015, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by clickity click

You jump to conclusions Mr king.

No, I'm quoting you.

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Originally Posted by clickity click

I know a shop is normally made up of a Sql Database but I wondered if there was a way to copy the listings in a shop.

SekobA · 08-09-2015, 12:10 PM

Serious business

SilentKnight · 08-09-2015, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by clickity click

The photos are generally just stock images.

Unless explicitly stated by the copyright owner - what you call "stock images" are not royalty-free. Somewhere along the line there'd still be a licensing fee for their use.

ClaireMonroe · 08-09-2015, 12:28 PM

i love it. moral dilemma on a site called go fuck yourself. but yes, be honest. sometimes it sucks to be honest because dishonesty by competitors will walk all over you, but if your customers find out then your integrity is shot. it will also make you feel better in the end.

SilentKnight · 08-09-2015, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaireMonroe

i love it. moral dilemma on a site called go fuck yourself.

"Where The Industry Meets"

...populated by industry producers - photographers, videographers and copyright owners.

ClaireMonroe · 08-09-2015, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

"Where The Industry Meets"

...populated by industry producers - photographers, videographers and copyright owners.

And that is one of the reasons why you never want to ask shady questions on a forum like this.

CurrentlySober · 08-09-2015, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

"Where The Industry Meets"

...populated by industry producers - photographers, videographers and copyright owners.

& those who like poo...

SilentKnight · 08-09-2015, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaireMonroe

And that is one of the reasons why you never want to ask shady questions on a forum like this.

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

& those who like poo...

Fecal matters.

L-Pink · 08-09-2015, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaireMonroe

i love it. moral dilemma on a site called go fuck yourself. but yes, be honest. sometimes it sucks to be honest because dishonesty by competitors will walk all over you, but if your customers find out then your integrity is shot. it will also make you feel better in the end.

The op is a fucking asshat. In this thread he/she/it/whatever, want's to use sleazy means to fuck with a competitor. In another thread it want's to know how to steal product descriptions and stock or privately owned photos. In another it wants info on how to be unanimous while doing shady shit that arose from being an escort.

ClaireMonroe · 08-09-2015, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

The op is a fucking asshat. In this thread he/she/it/whatever, want's to use sleazy means to fuck with a competitor. In another thread it want's to know how to steal product descriptions and stock or privately owned photos. In another it wants info on how to be unanimous while doing shady shit that arose from being an escort.

I read some of those after my post. It's sad people need to resort to such things. Sure, business is tough out there these days, but taking dishonest and potentially illegal shortcuts isn't going to help anyone when the economy starts pounding again.

ErectMedia · 08-09-2015, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Seriously ............

+1

Adraco · 08-09-2015, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by clickity click

From what I can see this guy doesn't have a website yet or Facebook page. I am considering registering his company name/town and redirecting it to ours.

Is this poor practice?

Aren't you a standup citizen???

clickity click · 08-09-2015, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Adraco

Aren't you a standup citizen???

This guy actually spent over 30k doing his place up and now has it up for sale for 500k. It never even traded.

06-07-2015, 03:31 PM	#1
clickity click So Fecking Bummed Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 3,682	Moral Dilemma I am in the process of opening a bricks and mortar business. It's something that's pretty new and until a few months ago when we decided to go ahead with the idea we only knew of one similar place but that was over 50 miles away. Since then we have found the perfect location about 8 miles from our home and have brought it to within a week of opening. We are now aware of a competitor that has opened a place in our home town, the place is bigger than ours (the owner used to run a restaurant and has had it converted). From what I can see this guy doesn't have a website yet or Facebook page. I am considering registering his company name/town and redirecting it to ours. Is this poor practice?

06-07-2015, 06:07 PM	#9
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	loose the porn mentality give your customers high quality at a fair price with good service say what you do, do what you say....remember customers are too hard to get to lose them because of poor customer service. do those things youll be fine __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

06-07-2015, 07:18 PM	#10
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06-07-2015, 04:05 PM	#2
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06-07-2015, 04:15 PM	#4
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Maybe you can convince google that his business address is in, say, a volcano and have GPS taking his customers to impending doom.

06-07-2015, 04:20 PM	#5
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	Let me guess...vaping/e-cig sales?

06-07-2015, 05:03 PM	#7
MiamiBoyz fgfdftre6 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In the closet with your dad! Posts: 6,690	What sort of business is it? Sometimes a little bit of competition is a good thing. Gives people a chance to compare and may the best man win. Also, depending on your market niche the area might be able to successfully sustain 2 businesses so why be a bitch and cybersquat their name? Take the high road on this one (advise I rarely give and even more rarely do).

06-08-2015, 02:31 AM	#11
gebu Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 249	Not a good idea

06-08-2015, 02:36 AM	#12
Markul Likes Pie Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land that liberated porn Posts: 12,401	Since you clearly can't "handle" the competition, you are much better of ignoring them and focusing on your own business (and because this is GFY, by handling, I do not mean take out or do nasty shit, I mean learning from them, adapting and so on)

06-08-2015, 04:35 AM	#13
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	If you ''post'' anything to this hypothetical Facebook name that would imply his place of business; you would be operating in impersonation and/or defamation -- you could get hit with a libel lawsuit. Most businesses that are profitable have a lot of competitors. The lower the entry ''ticket price'' is -- the more competition there will be -- this is not to say that small consumer retail businesses cannot be profitable -- just more competitors will exist. Concentrate on your own business' unique value proposition in its marketplace (your locality or intended geo targeting area). If you have the knowledge to leverage digital marketing and digital branding making that work driving floor traffic as well, or better than, old school advertising; newspaper ads, matchbooks, flyers, TV ads, billboards ... Then you already have an edge -- digital sabotage of your competitors is a poor short term strategy

06-08-2015, 06:50 AM	#17
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	How can this be a moral dilema for you? Your natural gut response is your nature. This cannot be unlearned. I can only say it's best you follow other peoples advice instead of your gut.

08-09-2015, 11:56 AM	#19
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,601	Now he wants to scrape competitors content illegally and use it for himself. https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...copy-shop.html

08-09-2015, 12:28 PM	#24
ClaireMonroe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: The Golden State Posts: 213	i love it. moral dilemma on a site called go fuck yourself. but yes, be honest. sometimes it sucks to be honest because dishonesty by competitors will walk all over you, but if your customers find out then your integrity is shot. it will also make you feel better in the end.