another clever heads: industrychecks not paying on trials

[lucas131]

not sure what is up with the industry, but the industrychecks came with another great fuck up to affiliates ... after receiving 1.99 trial sale and it showed 0 on my account, i asked why zero and got answer

Hi Radim,

A trial sale is not considered a full sale. Our program is set up that when a trial converts to a re-bill you will get paid for that and the lifetime of the membership.

Thanks,
Support

so trial sale is not sale ... good to know guys, another serious business ... have a nice weekend and wish you best with your business everyone

[freecartoonporn]

never heard of them

[lucas131]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

never heard of them

new program, they have announcement in announcements section

[EddyTheDog]

They have probably been blasted with x-sells as well - $s you will never see...

[lucas131]

now they site is dead for few days, thats really serious busines ... btw, how are now the hits counting, when the site is on park page?

[PornDiscounts-R]

Originally Posted by lucas131

now they site is dead for few days, thats really serious busines ... btw, how are now the hits counting, when the site is on park page?

All their sites load for me. Via direct urls
But sounds like a solid biz

[lucas131]

Originally Posted by thebestamateur

All their sites load for me. Via direct urls
But sounds like a solid biz

yeah i see now, they renewed the domain and looks like the hits have been counted, so all good, except that they dont pay trials, trial is not a sale if you didnt know ...

[PornDiscounts-R]

Yeah, that none pay on trials is pretty scammy.

[blackmonsters]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTzc7hdvKaY

[TheMoneyMan]

This is why its important to stick to reputable networks! At least you diddnt loose out on a bunch of money.

[mineistaken]

That could be understandable only if they do revshare and zero xsales. In that case 0.99$ for you is not that much of a loss as you would aim for rebills/full sales anyway.
But again - only if revshare and no crosssales.

[lucas131]

Join Date: Apr 24th, 2014 03:55 PM
Total Income: $0.00
Total Rebills: 1
Status: Active
Site: IndustryInvaders.com

so, they dont pay on initial sales, now, i got rebill, but the rebill is zero, so they dont pay even on rebills ... all on revshare ... now, the question is, what are they paying? nothing? good to know, stay far far away!!!

[freecartoonporn]

Originally Posted by lucas131

Join Date: Apr 24th, 2014 03:55 PM
Total Income: $0.00
Total Rebills: 1
Status: Active
Site: IndustryInvaders.com

so, they dont pay on initial sales, now, i got rebill, but the rebill is zero, so they dont pay even on rebills ... all on revshare ... now, the question is, what are they paying? nothing? good to know, stay far far away!!!

wait till the relentless comes in this thread and takes their side tells us, how their click/$ or $/clicks is better than others so you gotta stick with them.

Relentless in 3,2,1.

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

wait till the relentless comes in this thread and takes their side tells us, how their click/$ or $/clicks is better than others so you gotta stick with them. Relentless in 3,2,1.

If they don't pay on trials or rebills your $/clicks = $0.00

That is the best reason to stay far far away.

$/click is not taking 'their side' dumbass, it is taking the side of any professional affiliate, and any sponsor that actually pays real money for real clicks at a high value. How you can think that is bad advice in any way is simply bizarre.

Now on the other hand, if they didn't pay on trials but you were earning forty cents per click because they converted trials at a high rate and retained really well, I wouldn't care about the trials at all. I'd care about the forty cents per click. In this instance, assuming Lucas' numbers are accurate (I would do my own testing if I planned to promote a sponsor) the payout appears to be 0.00, that would be enough reason for me to not promote them even if they were accurately paying 0.00 while counting trials.

The math matters, the reason 'why' they pay 0.00 is a distraction for asshats in almost every case.

[Relentless]

Lucas, if you want to really be helpful....
Post a list of sponsors you have sent at least 50K clicks and the amount they each paid you per click.

That would be very useful information

2cents

[InfoGuy]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

Relentless in 3,2,1.

Right on cue.

[freecartoonporn]

Originally Posted by Relentless

If they don't pay on trials or rebills your $/clicks = $0.00

That is the best reason to stay far far away.

$/click is not taking 'their side' dumbass, it is taking the side of any professional affiliate, and any sponsor that actually pays real money for real clicks at a high value. How you can think that is bad advice in any way is simply bizarre.

Now on the other hand, if they didn't pay on trials but you were earning forty cents per click because they converted trials at a high rate and retained really well, I wouldn't care about the trials at all. I'd care about the forty cents per click. In this instance, assuming Lucas' numbers are accurate (I would do my own testing if I planned to promote a sponsor) the payout appears to be 0.00, that would be enough reason for me to not promote them even if they were accurately paying 0.00 while counting trials.

The math matters, the reason 'why' they pay 0.00 is a distraction for asshats in almost every case.

i dont have time to read your wall of text and to argue with you, i used to think you were stand up guy but realized that you are bro with the programs owners and thats why you kept pasting your $/click logic in the other thread.

that is all i have to say.

to OP : i apologize for mentioning the relentless in this thread , now this thread is also ruined with relentless's $/click posts and walls of text.

[Colmike9]

Hey Lucas, what trial programs would you recommend that pay for each trial? Because the programs that I've talked to all say that they have to convert for them to pay the full PPS..

[lucas131]

Originally Posted by Colmike7

Hey Lucas, what trial programs would you recommend that pay for each trial? Because the programs that I've talked to all say that they have to convert for them to pay the full PPS..

all my programs are paying on trials, so far i know i am talking about revshare, not pps, i am not doing pps, so i dont know which programs pay you pps on trials and yeah, welcome relentless here lol have a nice sunday everyone

[Colmike9]

Originally Posted by lucas131

all my programs are paying on trials, so far i know i am talking about revshare, not pps, i am not doing pps, so i dont know which programs pay you pps on trials and yeah, welcome relentless here lol have a nice sunday everyone

Ah, my bad

[lucas131]

you know, on revshare, you send 1usd trial, they pay you 50cents at least, mostly 60cents, then on rebills and so ... but those industrychecks guys have only revshare links with trials option in their nats, so you cannot choose nothing else, now they dont pay those trials, not even those 50cents, they pay full zero, saying they are paying only rebills, but now when one of my member magically rebilled, it is still zero what the ...

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

i dont have time to read your wall of text

I'm neither a bro nor a whining part-timer. I'm a professional.
If a dozen lines of text are too challenging for you to read, that says a lot.
Have luck

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by lucas131

welcome relentless have a nice sunday everyone

Thanks for the warm welcome

[freecartoonporn]

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

Right on cue.

he likes these types of threads i guess. posting his $/clicks logic.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

wait till the relentless comes in this thread and takes their side tells us, how their click/$ or $/clicks is better than others so you gotta stick with them.

Relentless in 3,2,1.

lol what a moronic post

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

posting his $/clicks logic.

My logic? A four year old can reason well enough to figure out $/click
Then again, a four year old can also read a dozen lines of text.

[freecartoonporn]

Originally Posted by Jel

lol what a moronic post

here comes another BRO

[ErectMedia]

RevShare should be RevShare across the board. This sounds like Selective RevShare. Imaginary Links Pulled

[Jel]

I'm a bro because I thought it was moronic you posted the exact opposite of what relentless has been saying in the other thread yet somehow thought a $0.00 return on clicks & sales would give an EPC worthy of anyone with more than 1 brain cell saying stick with that sponsor?

Righto

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

nonsense....

What do you do in this industry? Are you an affiliate? Do you own any sites?

Or does saying you own a specific site somehow make you a Bro?

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

here comes another BRO

[lucas131]

just reminder, stay away of them ... still making sales, with zero revenue, and also did some rebills, with zero revenue! they are scam, pure, clean, scam! stay away!!!

[lucas131]

fucking scammers ...

[IndustryInvaders]

We are a new site, we are definitely not a scam. We do not pay out on our trial. We have some minor NATS issues that are currently being worked out. Please be patient, we are not going anywhere. We value all of your backlinks and traffic.

Thanks.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by IndustryInvaders

We have some minor NATS issues...

Um, ok. Thanks.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by IndustryInvaders

We are a new site, we are definitely not a scam. We do not pay out on our trial. We have some minor NATS issues that are currently being worked out. Please be patient, we are not going anywhere. We value all of your backlinks and traffic.

Thanks.

heads up on your 2257 links for oral.. masters or whatever

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by IndustryInvaders

We are a new site, we are definitely not a scam. We do not pay out on our trial. We have some minor NATS issues that are currently being worked out. Please be patient, we are not going anywhere. We value all of your backlinks and traffic.

Thanks.

Why do you give a fuck this much about 50 cents of revshare on a trial join?

[KillerK]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

Why do you give a fuck this much about 50 cents of revshare on a trial join?

Well, if I sent 1000 sales a year, that $500 a year I am not getting. I know $500 isn't a big deal to you, but that's a month of rent for a lot of gfyers.

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by KillerK

Well, if I sent 1000 sales a year, that $500 a year I am not getting. I know $500 isn't a big deal to you, but that's a month of rent for a lot of gfyers.

I'm talking about the sponsor, not webmasters. If you tell someone 50% revshare then share the damn revenue and STFU.

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

here comes another BRO

GFT

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

here comes another BRO

...

[TeenCat]

those guys are now looking for backlinks and advertising ... what would you say? they will be dead in less than hour, just because nobody have been so idiotic so far in last few years what i remember ... or you think that scheme where i have 23 sales, one rebill, no refund or chargeback, and i am on zero money, you think it is ok? pure fucking idiots ...

[TeenCat]

hell yeah moneymaker!

[TeenCat]

ooops, hope i will not get my account disabled, because i am rude at them ... lol man ...

[TeenCat]

right now i am at 32sales, 15rebills and from all that i have 0usd. right, pure big zero now that is what i call pure thievery ... stay away from those thieves who value your traffic so they steal all of your money ... fucking dicks ...

[TeenCat]

mother fuckers ...

[EliteWebmaster]

Saw their site, why would anyone promote them in the first place? Generic content and is their company motto "we will shoot the ugliest girls that no one else wants"? Porn has sunk pretty low of people like sites like this

[TeenCat]

Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster

Saw their site, why would anyone promote them in the first place? Generic content and is their company motto "we will shoot the ugliest girls that no one else wants"? Porn has sunk pretty low of people like sites like this

i am promoting everything new, so i tried them also. and as you can see, there are some sales, but they are taking all the money, so they simply steal all your traffic and sales, and that is what makes me thinking how low can some assholes go ...

[EliteWebmaster]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

i am promoting everything new, so i tried them also. and as you can see, there are some sales, but they are taking all the money, so they simply steal all your traffic and sales, and that is what makes me thinking how low can some assholes go ...

Yeah that's low for them to scam you like that Hope they clean up their act or they won't have anyone that will promote their stuff

[JuicyBunny]

Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster

Yeah that's low for them to scam you like that Hope they clean up their act or they won't have anyone that will promote their stuff

After seeing their sites I think that ship has already sailed.