Trump is bulletproof

[kane]

I thought he would lose some support after what he said about McCain, but I was dead wrong. He actually gained support. Today's newest poll shows him with 28% of the vote among registered republicans. Jeb Bush is second with 14% and Scott Walker is third with 13%. Today he went after Walker. It seems like every time he attacks his poll numbers go up.

This is going to be an interesting ride.

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by kane

This is going to be an interesting ride.

[Barry-xlovecam]

It just shows what pansy-asses the other Republicans running for the nomination are.

Trump's appeal is to whom? Xenophobes and those looking for excuses for their failures. He's the candidate Hillary will have the easiest time to beat in the general election -- that is not a good thing but she is the only candidate for the Democrat nomination that can claim any real experience (with no real successes either) in active foreign affairs .

Trump would be a disaster dealing with other world governments -- aggressive, brash, short tempered -- the epitome of the face of "The Ugly American" to world opinion. His 28% assures a third party. The mainstream Republicans would massacre him at the nominating convention anyway.

Trump sounds like a modern day George Wallace with a lot of money -- an asshole to the core

[Milfer]

A business man should never be a politician

just my two cents

[kane]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

It just shows what pansy-asses the other Republicans running for the nomination are.

Trump's appeal is to whom? Xenophobes and those looking for excuses for their failures. He's the candidate Hillary will have the easiest time to beat in the general election -- that is not a good thing but she is the only candidate for the Democrat nomination that can claim any real experience (with no real successes either) in active foreign affairs .

Trump would be a disaster dealing with other world governments -- aggressive, brash, short tempered -- the epitome of the face of "The Ugly American" to world opinion. His 28% assures a third party. The mainstream Republicans would massacre him at the nominating convention anyway.

Trump sounds like a modern day George Wallace with a lot of money -- an asshole to the core

There is a part of me that thinks Trump will lose the republican nomination, but in a very close race and that will make him decide to run as an independent. The other day he mentioned he wouldn't rule out doing so. If he does it likely will hand the white house to Hillary.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

It just shows what pansy-asses the other Republicans running for the nomination are.

Trump's appeal is to whom? Xenophobes and those looking for excuses for their failures. He's the candidate Hillary will have the easiest time to beat in the general election -- that is not a good thing but she is the only candidate for the Democrat nomination that can claim any real experience (with no real successes either) in active foreign affairs .

Trump would be a disaster dealing with other world governments -- aggressive, brash, short tempered -- the epitome of the face of "The Ugly American" to world opinion. His 28% assures a third party. The mainstream Republicans would massacre him at the nominating convention anyway.

Trump sounds like a modern day George Wallace with a lot of money -- an asshole to the core

If you had your way you would be apologizing to everyone for being America, giving away the entire country and being politically correct at all costs.

You don't like Trump because you're a loser. It's simple.

I would have you arrested for high treason because you wish the USA has weak leaders.

[RummyBoy]

Originally Posted by Milfer

A business man should never be a politician

just my two cents

So you want a politician in office?

Trump is appealing precisely because he is NOT a politician...... that allows him to be completely devoid of any need to be liked and he can just be real. The economy is the big problem in America - solve that and you can solve everything else. I'm sure Trump has a much better chance of making things work out for the country than another Bush or Clinton.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Milfer

A business man should never be a politician

just my two cents

Only a businessman who has climbed the ladder and dealt with the huge problems of being in business has the skills and experience to run a country. A self made man, who will renounce all his business holdings would be great.

A bureaucrat would be a disaster, we're seeing that in Europe and the result is people clearly out of their depth.

The situation the US is in is one of big business controlling politicians to a degree that threatens democracy.

Take Dianne Feinstein for an example. Her 2012 Campaign cost $34,524,710 In 2018 she will need to raise more to keep the job, so will anyone else who wants to over throw her.

Barack Obama, Mitt Romney election budgets both topped $1 billion in 2012.

This is why you have a very expensive Healthcare System, a crap public schools system, can't get real controls on who can or cannot own a gun. And whoever sits in power, from Governors to Presidents has to toe the line, if the donors tell them to.

Trump will not have to toe the line, he can write his own line. Look back at his career and see where he put the lines previously and who benefitted from them.

Then read this.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Trump would be a disaster dealing with other world governments -- aggressive, brash, short tempered -- the epitome of the face of "The Ugly American" to world opinion.

so hilary would be better at dealing with rabidly sexist middle eastern & asian nations? the ones that ignore michelle obama on the greeting line?

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by kane

There is a part of me that thinks Trump will lose the republican nomination, but in a very close race and that will make him decide to run as an independent. The other day he mentioned he wouldn't rule out doing so. If he does it likely will hand the white house to Hillary.

nah, he's only threatening that to keep his party in check. it would be super expensive to run indy, & he has no chance. his best shot would be to prevent a majority from getting the electoral votes, whereby the president is then decided by the house. He loves his money, wont spend it on a zero-shot, unless his spite factor is that high, & i suspect it wont be.

[RummyBoy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Only a businessman who has climbed the ladder and dealt with the huge problems of being in business has the skills and experience to run a country. A self made man, who will renounce all his business holdings would be great.

I agree with this 100% but why should he renounce his business holdings?

Its not like a nun ditching her sex life

I bet he'll be a really strong leader too..... and he will need to be in order to put some fist against all the neo-con institutions who are going to sit him down and tell him how things are going to be. We do NOT need another sissy in office - we need someone who's going to make America great again.

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Only a businessman who has climbed the ladder and dealt with the huge problems of being in business has the skills and experience to run a country.

That's why they fear him

[kane]

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

I agree with this 100% but why should he renounce his business holdings?

Its not like a nun ditching her sex life

I bet he'll be a really strong leader too..... and he will need to be in order to put some fist against all the neo-con institutions who are going to sit him down and tell him how things are going to be. We do NOT need another sissy in office - we need someone who's going to make America great again.

He may not have a choice when it comes to his business holdings. Any person elected president is required to put any assets that are not fully compliant with federal disclosure ends up in a blind trust while they are in office.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

I agree with this 100% but why should he renounce his business holdings?

Its not like a nun ditching her sex life

Because he may make policies or start wars that will benefit him rather than the country.

That's why they fear him. And let's face it, it has been done before.

The White House, as I understand it, is only part of the law making process. Can he push through laws the other two houses don't agree to? I doubt it.

I bet he'll be a really strong leader too..... and he will need to be in order to put some fist against all the neo-con institutions who are going to sit him down and tell him how things are going to be. We do NOT need another sissy in office - we need someone who's going to make America great again.

A strong leader, like Hitler or Churchill? If you get my drift.

Is he going to make America great or himself greater?

The fear I have with a man like Trump is he needs an inner drive to get to the top, and a great inner drive to get to the very top. If he renounces all his business interests, it's an indication he wants to make the country great.

As for America being great again. Will never happen until America, and the West, become the industrial power house they once were. The West buys far too many cheap goods from the 3rd World, trade gaps are a scandal, all to fuel a consumer society and keep voters happy.

Try to find a "Made in the USA" label.

[MaDalton]

what happens when the Donald really wins all the primaries, do the Republicans have to nominate him?


Besides that - the second richest man in Czech Republic started a party 2-3 years ago, they got voted into the government right away and he's now minister of finances.

One reason he got so many votes: in a country where corruption is considered normal, he clearly does not need any additional money (even though there's a lot of speculation how he got so successful in the first place)

but after 2 decades we finally have a somehow stable government and CZ is doing pretty well compared to many other EU countries and has one of the highest GDP growth rates

[crockett]

Asking the extreme right if they like Trump or not, is like asking a monkey if he like bananas..

These polls are useless when it's just the Republican base being polled.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

those looking for excuses for their failures.

LOL, it is exactly the opposite. Leechers and "excusers" would not like a man like that.
They do not even like "evil rich" in general...

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by crockett

Asking the extreme right if they like Trump or not, is like asking a monkey if he like bananas..

These polls are useless when it's just the Republican base being polled.

All republicans were polled, not just extreme right.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by Milfer

A business man should never be a politician

just my two cents

The 'career politician model' has worked out so well!

You should take your 2cents and buy yourself a clue.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

what happens when the Donald really wins all the primaries, do the Republicans have to nominate him?


Besides that - the second richest man in Czech Republic started a party 2-3 years ago, they got voted into the government right away and he's now minister of finances.

One reason he got so many votes: in a country where corruption is considered normal, he clearly does not need any additional money (even though there's a lot of speculation how he got so successful in the first place)

but after 2 decades we finally have a somehow stable government and CZ is doing pretty well compared to many other EU countries and has one of the highest GDP growth rates

Reagan was hated by the establishment Republicans. Bush Sr was their guy but lost 44/4 in the primaries.

If Trump wins then yes. Why wouldn't they?

[Barry-xlovecam]

THE SILENT MAJORITY HAS AWAKENED! @ donaldjtrump.com

Talk about a crock of shit ...

George Wallace Reloaded -- That put Richard Nixon in office in 1968 -- the rest is history ...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Milfer

A business man should never be a politician

just my two cents

the fucking lawyers aren't working out so well

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by kane

I thought he would lose some support after what he said about McCain, but I was dead wrong. He actually gained support. Today's newest poll shows him with 28% of the vote among registered republicans. Jeb Bush is second with 14% and Scott Walker is third with 13%. Today he went after Walker. It seems like every time he attacks his poll numbers go up.

This is going to be an interesting ride.

at least you didn't do what i did and start a thread exclaiming Trump is done after the mccain comments!

[Barry-xlovecam]

A businessman with global operations, who is attune to the global marketplace, would be acceptable with a Vice Presidential pick with inside US government experience -- this would be acceptable to me -- even welcomed.

However, someone who made his money in the domestic real estate market and as a gambling casino operator and has a history of business failures, marriage failures, and now foot in the mouth failures, who is pursuing a Pyrrhic victory, is not my idea of a visionary leader.

Bozo for President II

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Milfer

A business man should never be a politician

just my two cents

The GOP is historically all Business men and the Democrats are historically Lawyers.

You don't seem to have a clue, please buy one next chance you get

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

A businessman with global operations. who is attune to the global marketplace, would be acceptable with a Vice Presidential pick with inside US government experience -- this would be acceptable to me -- even welcomed.

However, someone who made his money in the domestic real estate market and as a gambling casino operator and has a history of business failures, marriage failures, and now foot in the mouth failures, who is pursuing a Pyrrhic victory, is not my idea of a visionary leader.

Bozo for President II

how do you categorize his business resume as a history of business failures? he's been president of 100s and 100s and 100s of businesses and only 3-4 bankruptcies out of all of those, while at the same time increasing his personal net worth from $50 million to several billions$. wouldn't you consider yourself a successful business man with that sort of record?

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by Milfer

A business man should never be a politician

just my two cents

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

how do you categorize his business resume as a history of business failures? he's been president of 100s and 100s and 100s of businesses and only 3-4 bankruptcies out of all of those, while at the same time increasing his personal net worth from $50 million to several billions$. wouldn't you consider yourself a successful business man with that sort of record?

I don't care if Trump could buy and sell everyone of us. I have disliked Donald Trump for 20 years ... He is a loud mouth clown and not suitable to be this nation's "fearless leader." That said, I am also, as usual, disgusted with the other options (candidates).

What I think is we may be just seeing is a public opinion platform shaping of the Republican party. If that is true, Trump is just a troll ... this is my working theory.

On another note: No candidate has said squat about the Lafayette Movie Theater Shootings (other than Jindal as Governor of Louisiana ) -- they seem paralyzed and too PC concerned for coming out with a position -- how would any of them be able to deal with issues on-the-fly if in the oval office? They are being managed by their handlers ... Bunch of losers ...

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

On another note: No candidate has said squat about the Lafayette Movie Theater Shootings (other than Jindal as Governor of Louisiana )

You suggest you are an American but your commentary leads me to believe you do not or have not ever lived here ... or just don't have a clue.

Why should a presidential candidate, much less a dozen of them waste time concentrating on a local crime? That's one thing Obama could not keep from doing and all he succeeded in doing is causing more of a rift in this country.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I don't care if Trump could buy and sell everyone of us. I have disliked Donald Trump for 20 years ... He is a loud mouth clown and not suitable to be this nation's "fearless leader." That said, I am also, as usual, disgusted with the other options (candidates).

What I think is we may be just seeing is a public opinion platform shaping of the Republican party. If that is true, Trump is just a troll ... this is my working theory.

On another note: No candidate has said squat about the Lafayette Movie Theater Shootings (other than Jindal as Governor of Louisiana ) -- they seem paralyzed and too PC concerned for coming out with a position -- how would any of them be able to deal with issues on-the-fly if in the oval office? They are being managed by their handlers ... Bunch of losers ...

my question was more along the lines of your estimation that he's a poor business man due to 4 bankruptcies out of 100s of businesses. just seems kind of harsh.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

my question was more along the lines of your estimation that he's a poor business man due to 4 bankruptcies out of 100s of businesses. just seems kind of harsh.

Donald is kind of hash too -- you reap what you sew they say

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by kane

I thought he would lose some support after what he said about McCain, but I was dead wrong. He actually gained support. Today's newest poll shows him with 28% of the vote among registered republicans. Jeb Bush is second with 14% and Scott Walker is third with 13%. Today he went after Walker. It seems like every time he attacks his poll numbers go up.

This is going to be an interesting ride.

It's because he appeals to assholes....and there's a ton of them out there.

[bronco67]

Does everyone realize that Donald Trump is not exactly a self mad man? He was largely given a giant head start by his father -- who was a REAL self made man.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Donald is kind of hash too -- you reap what you sew they say

speaking of harsh, Trump has lindsey graham blowing up cell phones and rand paul chainsawing tax code. it's all harsh!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Does everyone realize that Donald Trump is not exactly a self mad man? He was largely given a giant head start by his father -- who was a REAL self made man.

wait what? are you trying to claim Trump turned $50 million dollars into $10 billion?


pfft.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

All republicans were polled, not just extreme right.

Republicans are the extreme right, there are no moderates left. Hence the reason there are never any republican candidates anywhere close to the center, just ones whom try to be more extreme than the next..


Obama has governed to the Right of Reagan on most things. 20 years ago, Obama would of been seen as a typical Republican, but today you guys call him a liberal.. Which he isn't..

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

Republicans are the extreme right, there are no moderates left.

this is nonsense.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Yep, I can't wait to see some temper tantrums coming in the pre-convention debates. Not a single candidate qualifies as ethical and a 'statesman' that I would want to represent the face of the USA to the world community.

This country should be a lot better than this sort of petty bullshit. No wonder the world sees us as buffoons

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Yep, I can't wait to see some temper tantrums coming in the pre-convention debates. Not a single candidate qualifies as ethical and a 'statesman' that I would want to represent the face of the USA to the world community.

This country should be a lot better than this sort of petty bullshit. No wonder the world sees us as buffoons

some of the rest of the world likes to point to us and exclaim buffoon, but that's because it's trendy to do so. we're no bigger or smaller a buffoon country than the next country. we're more buffoonery than Italy? France? UK? Russia? i don't see it.

[Barry-xlovecam]

You don't lead the free world by being as bufoonish as others ... Descending to the lowest denominator is not good global diplomacy. Actually the Brits and French get a lot of respect where we do not -- the USA is mostly feared from bullying.

The USA has entered a post industrial era and many citizens have little current skills to offer. So guys like Trump and Sanders say we can get back what we lost -- that is useless -- it's gone. Neither has any real vision for the future -- just rhetoric that is 30 years old and updated to be relevant to the current drama.

They are just the trolls of election 2016. They may have something to shape their respective party's platforms but little more -- I am just dismissive of their stated goals and can see through their bullshit.

[dyna mo]

of course not. but being the leader of the free world also makes the USA an easy target to point at.

i don't see any respect for france or Britain anywhere, the opposite.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by crockett

Republicans are the extreme right, there are no moderates left. Hence the reason there are never any republican candidates anywhere close to the center, just ones whom try to be more extreme than the next..

I have to hand it to you; just when I think there is no way you can say something dumber than the last, you Trump it.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

...
i don't see any respect for france or Britain anywhere, the opposite.

70% of the or more of the people that I communicate with one a 1 to 1 basis daily are not from the USA. Maybe, I just have a more global perspective of opinion. I ignore 90% of the nationalistic insults at GFY that's just a pissing contest to me. A lot of this is just "hey look at the monkey" bullshit. Read some of the foreign press and the global and US far right and leftist press -- 90% bullshit.

Trump Mens Donald Trump French Cuff Dress Shirt at Amazon Men's Clothing store: White Dress Shirt

Harry Truman may have been a haberdasher, small businessman and a US Senator -- but he didn't put his name to profit in trade at this low level.

Trump and Murdoch have a lot in common -- being nasty with a lot of money to throw around.

Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have much of a plan -- time for new blood, time for new ideas and ideals.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Mark Zuckerberg (#11), whose net worth grew $15 billion since last year; he is currently worth $34 billion

Zuckerberg could buy and sell Trump. Do you think that qualifies him to be President when he is over 35

Zuckerberg could fit Trump's IQ in his shoe

[Rochard]

Trump / Palin 2016

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

70% of the or more of the people that I communicate with one a 1 to 1 basis daily are not from the USA. Maybe, I just have a more global perspective of opinion.

or maybe you don't. 70% of whomever you speak may talk that way, maybe you hear what you want or need to, but this is your opinion based on your chatting with some people.

while that's your view and i respect that, it's not fair to expand that to everyone else and claim you have a more global perspective of opinion because a % of people you talk to talk shit about the USA.

combined with it's currently trendy to talk shit about USA.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

It just shows what pansy-asses the other Republicans running for the nomination are.

Trump's appeal is to whom? Xenophobes and those looking for excuses for their failures. He's the candidate Hillary will have the easiest time to beat in the general election -- that is not a good thing but she is the only candidate for the Democrat nomination that can claim any real experience (with no real successes either) in active foreign affairs .

Trump would be a disaster dealing with other world governments -- aggressive, brash, short tempered -- the epitome of the face of "The Ugly American" to world opinion. His 28% assures a third party. The mainstream Republicans would massacre him at the nominating convention anyway.

Trump sounds like a modern day George Wallace with a lot of money -- an asshole to the core

Exactly, exactly, exactly right.

Originally Posted by Milfer

A business man should never be a politician
just my two cents

I agree with you. What are the requirements for running for president? You would think that you would have to have to work your way towards it by getting into politics early, becoming mayor, then governor, senator whatever. Being a rich asshole should not even get you on the same stage as politicians.

Originally Posted by Dvae

The 'career politician model' has worked out so well!

You should take your 2cents and buy yourself a clue.

Well, wait a minute and let's think about that. Sure there are all kinds of problems, but there are also lots of great things too. Americans live freely. Lots of people have jobs. There's lots of welfare and programs for the needy, the air and water are fairly clean, and no one is dropping bombs on you yet. Of course there are problems, but to say that the career politician model is worse than an obnoxious rich dickhead with no experience whatsoever isn't fair or accurate.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

THE SILENT MAJORITY HAS AWAKENED! @ donaldjtrump.com

Talk about a crock of shit ...

George Wallace Reloaded -- That put Richard Nixon in office in 1968 -- the rest is history ...

Scary stuff. I really, really hope that Trump doesn't become president.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I don't care if Trump could buy and sell everyone of us. I have disliked Donald Trump for 20 years ... He is a loud mouth clown and not suitable to be this nation's "fearless leader." That said, I am also, as usual, disgusted with the other options (candidates).

Same here.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

this is nonsense.

No, I'm sorry but it's not. The Republican Party of today would be considered radical and to the extreme right, by the Republican Party when Reagan was the president.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by baddog

I have to hand it to you; just when I think there is no way you can say something dumber than the last, you Trump it.

Just when I thought baddog had something useful to say.. He proves me wrong yet again..

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

No, I'm sorry but it's not. The Republican Party of today would be considered radical and to the extreme right, by the Republican Party when Reagan was the president.

using this line of reasoning, Reagan was radical far right compared to Eisenhower, therefore, there was no moderate repubicans when REagan was Pres..