700+ Muslims die in a stampede

[JJ Gold]

Not the best and the brightest.....


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/25/wo...pede.html?_r=0

[j3rkules]

Oh dear how sad....

[aka123]

Muhammad took casualties into account when he made up the rules. Pretty much like the Nazis. They had swell guidelines for ensuring that there will be enough soldiers for third Reich.

Though Muhammad did win his wars in the end, Hitler didn't.

[Markul]

[rogueteens]

oh dear, what a pity. never mind.

[Relic]

Couldn't give less of a fuck

[crockett]

Brainwashed people killing one another to worship their imaginary gods.. It never ends..

[marcop]

Not good timing from The Economist--from just three days ago--Why the Haj is Safer than Ever: The Economist explains: Why the haj is safer than ever | The Economist

Oh, the irony.

[dyna mo]

The stoning ritual is done over at least two days, where pilgrims stone the three pillars at Mina -- believed to be where the devil was stoned when he tried to dissuade Abraham from obeying God's orders to slaughter his son.

wait, so god told abraham to slaughter his own son and the devil tried to stop that?

that's what islam is based on. dang. that's some fucked up shit.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

The stoning ritual is done over at least two days, where pilgrims stone the three pillars at Mina -- believed to be where the devil was stoned when he tried to dissuade Abraham from obeying God's orders to slaughter his son.

wait, so god told abraham to slaughter his own son and the devil tried to stop that?

that's what islam is based on. dang. that's some fucked up shit.

I feel that can't be real...like it is too fucked up to be real

[poncabare]

wonderful news

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I feel that can't be real...like it is too fucked up to be real

i hear ya.

i thought i misunderstood the story, so i looked it up:


The ritual re-enacts Abraham (Ibrāhīm)'s pilgrimage to Mecca as explained by the Muslim historian al-Azraqi:

"When he [Abraham] left Mina and was brought down to (the defile called) al-Aqaba, the Devil appeared to him at Stone-Heap of the Defile. Gabriel said to him: "Pelt him!" so Abraham threw seven stones at him so that he disappeared from him. Then he appeared to him at the Middle Stone-Heap. Gabriel said to him: "Pelt him!" so he pelted him with seven stones so that he disappeared from him. Then he appeared to him at the Little Stone-Heap. Gabriel said to him: "Pelt him!" so he pelted him with seven stones like the little stones for throwing with a sling. So the Devil withdrew from him."

All three jamarāt represent the devil: the first and largest represents his temptation of Abraham against sacrificing Ishmael (Ismāʿīl); the second represents the temptation of Abraham's wife Hājar to induce her to stop him; the third represents his temptation of Ishmael to avoid being sacrificed. He was rebuked each time, and the throwing of the stones symbolizes those rebukes.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I feel that can't be real...like it is too fucked up to be real

Is it any dumber than some guy walking on water? Another guy parting the seas or destroying an entire city because no good people could be found.. It's all just as crazy as the next.

No diffrent than Morman magic underwear or alien overloads that live in volcanoes..

It's all crazy fucked up shit that people justify to oppress others. Why pretend one is any worse than the others?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

Is it any dumber than some guy walking on water? Another guy parting the seas or destroying an entire city because no good people could be found.. It's all just as crazy as the next.

No diffrent than Morman magic underwear or alien overloads that live in volcanoes..

It's all crazy fucked up shit that people justify to oppress others. Why pretend one is any worse than the others?

yes, god telling you to kill your own son as a test of loyalty is exponentially dumber than walking on water,etc. et al.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by crockett

Is it any dumber than some guy walking on water? Another guy parting the seas or destroying an entire city because no good people could be found.. It's all just as crazy as the next.

No diffrent than Morman magic underwear or alien overloads that live in volcanoes..

It's all crazy fucked up shit that people justify to oppress others. Why pretend one is any worse than the others?

There is crazy...then there is killing your own kids because some invisible leprechaun told you to do it crazy

[dyna mo]

what makes it truly bizarre is how evil (the devil) tried to intervene in the slaughter. and 3000 years later we have muslims throwing pebbles at a wall to denounce that.

unfuckingbelievable.

[Martin]

You would think that people by now would question the being they are praying too. You know, the never ending wars, all the hunger, pain and strife in the world etc. If he's real than why let his people suffer like this right? Must be a real dick..

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

what makes it truly bizarre is how evil (the devil) tried to intervene in the slaughter. and 3000 years later we have muslims throwing pebbles at a wall to denounce that.

unfuckingbelievable.

3000 years later we still have crazy people who think some invisible guy gave mosses stone tablets with the word of God written on them. These same crazy people try to call everyone sinners who don't follow their God given set of rules..

Christians are just as crazy...



Let's not even get into the crazy fuckers out west who think they talk in tounge because they mumble a bunch made up words together...

[RazorSharpe]

Erm, the Abraham son killing is not exclusively an Islam story. The Bible tells the same/similar story. Just saying ...

[crockett]

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

Erm, the Abraham son killing is not exclusively an Islam story. The Bible tells the same/similar story. Just saying ...

Yea the funny thing about Christians and Muslims is they worship the same fable, just written in diffrent books with diffrent starring actors.. With Christans it's Jesus with Muslims it's Mosses...

[j3rkules]

Originally Posted by crockett

3000 years later we still have crazy people who think some invisible guy gave mosses stone tablets with the word of God written on them. These same crazy people try to call everyone sinners who don't follow their God given set of rules..

Christians are just as crazy...



Let's not even get into the crazy fuckers out west who think they talk in tounge because they mumble a bunch made up words together...

We all knows the story about Donny Pauling who left porn for a religion....

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

Erm, the Abraham son killing is not exclusively an Islam story. The Bible tells the same/similar story. Just saying ...

no one claimed it's exclusively islam. moreover, the story in the bible doesn't portray the devil as trying to stop the slaughter.

and 3000 years later christians don't travel to mecca to throw stones at a a wall to denounce a devil trying to stop that slaughter and end up stampeding each other to do that.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

Erm, the Abraham son killing is not exclusively an Islam story. The Bible tells the same/similar story. Just saying ...

btw, when are you making your pilgrimage to throw pebbles at a wall?

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by crockett

Is it any dumber than some guy walking on water? Another guy parting the seas or destroying an entire city because no good people could be found.. It's all just as crazy as the next.

No diffrent than Morman magic underwear or alien overloads that live in volcanoes..

It's all crazy fucked up shit that people justify to oppress others. Why pretend one is any worse than the others?

I want to agree with you though. All of it is nuts.
However at the current point in history we are looking at. This particular magic cult is a bit worse than the others.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

no one claimed it's exclusively islam. moreover, the story in the bible doesn't portray the devil as trying to stop the slaughter.

and 3000 years later christians don't travel to mecca to throw stones at a a wall to denounce a devil trying to stop that slaughter and end up stampeding each other to do that.

No, you're right, they don't. Instead they go to church and make their sons become alter boys all the while knowing there's a 50/50 chance he'll get shagged in the bum.

[Google Expert]

Let's add that stampede as a weekly event or something. Its not much, but its a start.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

btw, when are you making your pilgrimage to throw pebbles at a wall?

No need to. I printed out a little picture of you and substituted the pebbles for darts.

On a more serious note, on paper I'm a Muslim because I have to be. In reality, I'm the least religious person you'll likely meet because I think it's silly. I do not however think myself superior to the people who do believe. To each their own.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

No, you're right, they don't. Instead they go to church and make their sons become alter boys all the while knowing there's a 50/50 chance he'll get shagged in the bum.

the part you are not grasping is this isn't an either or scenario. this is a discussion about muslims stampeding each other because they need to throw pebbles at a wall that represents a devil trying to stop a slaughter.

that has nothing to do with anything else, that's the topic, regardless of your needing to deflect that.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

No need to. I printed out a little picture of you and substituted the pebbles for darts.

i see you have some space in your head for me. it's roomy too, i can stretch out.

[Google Expert]

I wonder what the sanitation facilities were like for those 160,000 tent dwellers.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the part you are not grasping is this isn't an either or scenario. this is a discussion about muslims stampeding each other because they need to throw pebbles at a wall that represents a devil trying to stop a slaughter.

that has nothing to do with anything else, that's the topic, regardless of your needing to deflect that.

What? That doesn't even make sense. All I said is that story isn't exclusive to Islam. Regardless of the narrative or who was there, the story is essentially the same. And Muslims don't make the pilgrimage to throw stones; that is but one part of why they visit Mecca.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i see you have some space in your head for me. it's roomy too, i can stretch out.

wow - just wow. If this is the extent of your comeback skills, maybe I won't bother.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by crockett

Yea the funny thing about Christians and Muslims is they worship the same fable, just written in diffrent books with diffrent starring actors.. With Christans it's Jesus with Muslims it's Mosses...

Crazy how similar that is to Democrats and Republicans.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

I wonder what the sanitation facilities were like for those 160,000 tent dwellers.

I'm not sure about the exact number but there are about 200-300 hotels in Mecca alone. I'm not entirely sure about the sanitation or the facilities in all of them.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

What? That doesn't even make sense. All I said is that story isn't exclusive to Islam. Regardless of the narrative or who was there, the story is essentially the same. And Muslims don't make the pilgrimage to throw stones; that is but one part of why they visit Mecca.



wow - just wow. If this is the extent of your comeback skills, maybe I won't bother.

no that's not all what you said. you've said several things here already.

and you're the one so upset by my posts you claim you printed out a pic of me and throw darts at it.

me pointing that out isn't a comeback. it's your reality.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

no that's not all what you said. you've said several things here already.

and you're the one so upset by my posts you claim you printed out a pic of me and throw darts at it.

me pointing that out isn't a comeback. it's your reality.

Oh STFU, you sound like a spastic. You really think I printed out a picture of you? Get a fucking grip.

And yes, that IS all I said. Whatever you want to believe in your little head, go right ahead.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

Oh STFU, you sound like a spastic. You really think I printed out a picture of you? Get a fucking grip.

And yes, that IS all I said. Whatever you want to believe in your little head, go right ahead.

arab, i stated you "claimed" to print a pic of me. of course i know you didn't because you don't have a fucking picture of me.

again, it's nice and roomy in your head. plenty of empty space.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

arab, i stated you "claimed" to print a pic of me. of course i know you didn't because you don't have a fucking picture of me.

again, it's nice and roomy in your head. plenty of empty space.

Oh bless, look at you thinking you're so important, that you matter, that people care. Fact is, I don't even think about you till I see one of your stupid posts on here. You're not as stupid as DVTimes, but you're up there.

Oh and feel free to call me arab, it is what I am after all. At least I'm not the person condoning knocking out old people and Asians if they stand too close to you.

P.S.: Putting claimed in quotes does little to detract from the idiocy of your statement.

[dyna mo]

heads-up, i'm not the one claiming i'm throwing darts at a picture of you.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

At least I'm not the person condoning knocking out old people and Asians if they stand too close to you.

arab, what the fuck are you lying about now? first you lie about printing a pic of me, now you're making shit up about me while exclaiming you don't think about me.

fucking right.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

arab, what the fuck are you lying about now? first you lie about printing a pic of me, now you're making shit up about me while exclaiming you don't think about me.

fucking right.

Go punch some old women or Asians in the face like you want to Rambo.

I'm many things, a liar is not one of them.

[dyna mo]

that's the 4th lie you have told in this thread alone.


don't slaughter me for that, or print up my pic and throw darts at it. i'm just pointing out the truth.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

that's the 4th lie you have told in this thread alone.


don't slaughter me for that, or print up my pic and throw darts at it. i'm just pointing out the truth.

You can count? Granny basher. Somehow it doesn't surprise me you wanting to beat up old people ....

[dyna mo]

feel free to link a granny basher post by me.

if not, you're a fucking liar.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

feel free to link a granny basher post by me.

if not, you're a fucking liar.

No no, I'm not lying. Unlike you stating I said something about blaming Americans in another thread. That was a lie. You condoning old women and Asians being knocked out isn't a lie.

[brassmonkey]

violent death = 100 virgins

[dyna mo]

and the fact you can't link to a post by me stating that proofs you are a fucking liar.
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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe

No no, I'm not lying. Unlike you stating I said something about blaming Americans in another thread. That was a lie. You condoning old women and Asians being knocked out isn't a lie.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

and the fact you can't link to a post by me stating that proofs you are a fucking liar.
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Use your granny bashing hands yourself and find it. I'm not here to satisfy your fucking whims.

[dyna mo]

and the fucking liar pusses out.

[Sly]

I was curious.

https://gfy.com/20580056-post25.html

from

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...-punch-ko.html

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

and the fucking liar pusses out.

And the granny basher still condones knocking out old people and Asians