Drum roll please....The Trump Tax Plan

[bronco67]

Trump Plan Cuts Taxes for Millions

Gotta say...I like it a lot.

[bronco67]

[1215]

I'd love a flat tax rate for everyone. What if everyone paid the same rate - regardless of what you earn? Let's say 20%...wouldn't we all have more of our own money to stimulate the economy with?

If I kept 80% of my income, instead of paying 30-40%, then I'd have more money to buy dumb shit.

[Rochard]

Less taxes for the rich. Surprise.

Originally Posted by 1215

I'd love a flat tax rate for everyone. What if everyone paid the same rate - regardless of what you earn? Let's say 20%...wouldn't we all have more of our own money to stimulate the economy with?

If I kept 80% of my income, instead of paying 30-40%, then I'd have more money to buy dumb shit.

A flat tax for EVERYONE would be great.

This means that the average family would pay less in taxes. However, it means the rich would pay a lot more taxes because there wouldn't be any loopholes. But of course there will be massive loopholes; There always is.

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Less taxes for the rich. Surprise.



A flat tax for EVERYONE would be great.

This means that the average family would pay less in taxes. However, it means the rich would pay a lot more taxes because there wouldn't be any loopholes. But of course there will be massive loopholes; There always is.

You probably should read the plan then.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Did you think you were posting from another nickname?

As for Trump tax, he sounds smart as always:

?My plan will bring sanity, common sense and simplification to our country?s catastrophic tax code,? Mr. Trump said in an interview. ?It will create jobs and incentives of all kinds while simultaneously growing the economy.?

Trump power

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by 1215

I'd love a flat tax rate for everyone.

That is the way to go if you want to have quality society and promote success and hard work. Instead of punishing hard workers by charging them higher income tax percentages.

[mineistaken]

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform direct link

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Fake Nick Fail?

[crockett]

The most ironic thing about Trump, is he keeps saying lets make America great again.. What he fails to include, is that during the times he thinks Anerica was "great", taxes were very high and businesses/industry were heavily regulated. This is in 100% disagreement with the typical Republican mindset, but I guess people just like catchy slogans vs what reality was..

The Atlantic just did an article on that very subject and it's kinda funny. Because all these retards jumping on his make America great bandwagon, do t seem to realize what America was at that time..

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by crockett

The most ironic thing about Trump, is he keeps saying lets make America great again.. What he fails to include, is that during the times he thinks Anerica was "great", taxes were very high and businesses were heavily regulated.

Well it is not ironic at all. Couldn't it simply be that at those times it was easier for America to be great (even with higher taxes). Nowadays (due to globalization and jobs overseas and other reasons) it is not that easy to be of the same greatness with higher taxes. So lowering should help that.
Think more... Instead of ignorantly comparing 2 very different timelines (as already mentioned - completely different times)...

[DraX]

Seriously he can't make it worse than it is today.

We need some new ideas and a new way of thinking, but that depends how much power and influence he gets IF he comes into office and the rest of the backscratchers needs to be out of the way.

I'm afraid there are 3 parts that has more power than the president at certain times.

The foul bureaucratic stench of the congress and senate.

Oh and lobbyists as far as the eye can see throwing money at whatever suits them.

The banks who screws up over and over and still gets saved.

Think how many looked forward to seeing Barack Obama as president in 2008. LOL

How many of those have massive raging regrets today?

I can't stand the guy anymore just be gone already. I never seen a bigger puppet than him.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by DraX

Seriously he can't make it worse than it is today.

Were you in a coma in the late 2000's?

[epitome]

To do that, he will need the help of Congress, including all of the Republicans he's pissed off.

Good luck!

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Axeman

You probably should read the plan then.

The article I read this morning said he was going to lower the top tax rate from 39% to 25%, and then lower taxes for the middle class as well. I am assuming he will lower the tax for the poor too.

Here is the catch.... You think the rich pay 39% tax currently? LOL. You think the rich will be 25%? You crack me up. The rich don't pay taxes. Instead they pay accountants to ensure they don't pay taxes.

[DraX]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Were you in a coma in the late 2000's?

Maybe I was, let me ask you this Mr smartypants have you slept for the past 8 years?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Here is the catch.... You think the rich pay 39% tax currently? LOL. You think the rich will be 25%? You crack me up. The rich don't pay taxes. Instead they pay accountants to ensure they don't pay taxes.

The rich pay much more than you do.

[kane]

While I am all for lower taxes, this is another pipe dream.

He wants to lower taxes across the board and has some ideas on raising other taxes and cutting loopholes. Great. He also wants to build a wall between us and Mexico, increase the size of the military and has promised to keep social security and medicare going not to mention he wants to replace Obamacare with something better. All of these things cost money. So where are the cuts going to come from?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

The rich pay much more than you do.

No, they don't. This is why Warren Buffet pays less in taxes than his secretary. They might be taxed at a higher rate, but they have more loopholes. You see, his secretary makes $x per year and has a certain percentage of taxes taken out. But Warren Buffet pays for her company car, and writes that off as an expense. Same thing with his limo and his limo driver. When your car breaks down you pay to fix it. When Warren Buffet's secretary's car breaks down, it's a business expense he'll write off.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by kane

While I am all for lower taxes, this is another pipe dream.

He wants to lower taxes across the board and has some ideas on raising other taxes and cutting loopholes. Great. He also wants to build a wall between us and Mexico, increase the size of the military and has promised to keep social security and medicare going not to mention he wants to replace Obamacare with something better. All of these things cost money. So where are the cuts going to come from?

He's the JesusTrump.. He can do anything except have good hair days...

[woj]

Originally Posted by Rochard

No, they don't. This is why Warren Buffet pays less in taxes than his secretary. They might be taxed at a higher rate, but they have more loopholes. You see, his secretary makes $x per year and has a certain percentage of taxes taken out. But Warren Buffet pays for her company car, and writes that off as an expense. Same thing with his limo and his limo driver. When your car breaks down you pay to fix it. When Warren Buffet's secretary's car breaks down, it's a business expense he'll write off.

You forgot to mention that the secretary happens to get many untaxed benefits... company car... health care... 401k... education... social security contributions by employer... unemployment insurance paid... stock options... various other perks, like discounts on employer's products... free phone service... etc...

it's not uncommon for an employee to get almost as much in untaxed benefits as they get in actual salary...

but "Warren Buffet pays less in taxes than his secretary" sounds so much cooler than the truth...

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Rochard

No, they don't. This is why Warren Buffet pays less in taxes than his secretary. They might be taxed at a higher rate, but they have more loopholes. You see, his secretary makes $x per year and has a certain percentage of taxes taken out. But Warren Buffet pays for her company car, and writes that off as an expense. Same thing with his limo and his limo driver. When your car breaks down you pay to fix it. When Warren Buffet's secretary's car breaks down, it's a business expense he'll write off.

That is completely different thing, you compare someone who owns a business and someone on a simple salary.

Not to mention that paying for company car is expenses. You do not pay for the car and pay just a fraction of that amount (that you would pay for company car) to taxes. So it even turns out better in terms of less expenses (eg instead of 100% he spends on the car, you would spend 27% or whatever you tax bracket is).

Get smart and compare adequate situations next time.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by 1215

I'd love a flat tax rate for everyone. What if everyone paid the same rate - regardless of what you earn? Let's say 20%...wouldn't we all have more of our own money to stimulate the economy with?

If I kept 80% of my income, instead of paying 30-40%, then I'd have more money to buy dumb shit.

20% of $25000 is a lot when you're trying to make ends meet. So I can see why someone under that level shouldn't be paying taxes. It just makes more sense.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Did you think you were posting from another nickname?

As for Trump tax, he sounds smart as always:



Trump power

I thought I was posting in another thread.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Fake Nick Fail?

Haha I thought was posting in Metaman's chest thumping thread. I don't have the need to make fake nicks. I'll tell you you're a fuckwad with this account with no fucking problems.

[Vendzilla]

If it makes sense, it will never happen, but we can hope!

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The article I read this morning said he was going to lower the top tax rate from 39% to 25%, and then lower taxes for the middle class as well. I am assuming he will lower the tax for the poor too.

Here is the catch.... You think the rich pay 39% tax currently? LOL. You think the rich will be 25%? You crack me up. The rich don't pay taxes. Instead they pay accountants to ensure they don't pay taxes.

Again you spout off with half information. Just read the plan and then talk about it. He isn't lowering taxes for the poor, he is eliminating it for those single and making under $25k and couples under $50k a year. And also eliminating all capital gains for those people as well.

The only people that crack me up is people like you, who barely skim a report or his part of a clip on the radio, then go off full cocked like they were educated on something. Your views and options of a topic are your own, and while I may disagree on some, and not others, its your low information spouting off that makes me laugh. Its just lazy, or trolling.

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by kane

While I am all for lower taxes, this is another pipe dream.

He wants to lower taxes across the board and has some ideas on raising other taxes and cutting loopholes. Great. He also wants to build a wall between us and Mexico, increase the size of the military and has promised to keep social security and medicare going not to mention he wants to replace Obamacare with something better. All of these things cost money. So where are the cuts going to come from?

IMO this is less likely to get passed than the building of the wall. I hate the can't do attitude of government. And until the people hold their own congressman or senators accountable, it will always be this way.

If the people wanted a tax plan like this, the could get it done after one election cycle when they kick out their rep that didn't go along with it and support the will of the people. The only thing that scares these people more than K street money going dry, is the prospect of losing their job.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Well it is not ironic at all. Couldn't it simply be that at those times it was easier for America to be great (even with higher taxes). Nowadays (due to globalization and jobs overseas and other reasons) it is not that easy to be of the same greatness with higher taxes. So lowering should help that.
Think more... Instead of ignorantly comparing 2 very different timelines (as already mentioned - completely different times)...

Wait a minute. You are asking him to think?
You realize who you are talking to?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Axeman

The only thing that scares these people more than K street money going dry, is the prospect of losing their job.

Number one job of a politician is to get reelected.

Fire every single one. The next 6 years will be insanity, but we could use a good reset.

People can do amazing things when they are forced. These lifetime politicians aren't forced to do shit when sitting on their cushy thrones.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

The most ironic thing about Trump, is he keeps saying lets make America great again.. What he fails to include, is that during the times he thinks Anerica was "great", taxes were very high and businesses/industry were heavily regulated. This is in 100% disagreement with the typical Republican mindset, but I guess people just like catchy slogans vs what reality was..

The Atlantic just did an article on that very subject and it's kinda funny. Because all these retards jumping on his make America great bandwagon, do t seem to realize what America was at that time..

He keeps saying "I'm going to make our country great again". LOL - Is our country not already great? Do we need to build a wall to keep people in? "I'm going to make our military strong again". Is our military not strong?

My favorite one is "I'm going to put people back to work again". Seems Trumpster there hasn't looked at our unemployment rate recently.

No matter what subject he is talking about he says the same thing. "I love our military, our military loves me". No, it doesn't. Trump has never served in our military, has no connection to our military, and has zero history with them. "Vets, I love our Vets, they love me. I'm gong to fix the VA". Our Vets do not love him, he has nothing to do with our Vets, and he has no plan to fix the VA. No matter what group he is asked about he says "I love them" and "they love me" and then he says "I'm going to fix their problem" without ever revealing a real plan.

Same old shit.

I can honestly say I hope he is elected - he would be the most entertaining president we'll ever have.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Axeman

Again you spout off with half information. Just read the plan and then talk about it. He isn't lowering taxes for the poor, he is eliminating it for those single and making under $25k and couples under $50k a year. And also eliminating all capital gains for those people as well.

The only people that crack me up is people like you, who barely skim a report or his part of a clip on the radio, then go off full cocked like they were educated on something. Your views and options of a topic are your own, and while I may disagree on some, and not others, its your low information spouting off that makes me laugh. Its just lazy, or trolling.

So he is lowering taxes for most and eliminating taxes for the lowest brackets.

The average median income per household in the US is $50,500. A lot of people will not be paying taxes under Trump's plan. The rest of us will pay less taxes. Do the math - the IRS will take in A LOT less money. Federal services will be cut across the board, and the deficit will instantly double or triple or worse.

"I'm going to make our military strong again" while slashing taxes. It just doesn't work this way.

Trump has a habit of making everything sound so easy. "I'm going to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it". If it was so easy, why wasn't it done already?

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So he is lowering taxes for most and eliminating taxes for the lowest brackets.

The average median income per household in the US is $50,500. A lot of people will not be paying taxes under Trump's plan. The rest of us will pay less taxes. Do the math - the IRS will take in A LOT less money. Federal services will be cut across the board, and the deficit will instantly double or triple or worse.

"I'm going to make our military strong again" while slashing taxes. It just doesn't work this way.

Trump has a habit of making everything sound so easy. "I'm going to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it". If it was so easy, why wasn't it done already?

I am not here to disagree or even agree with your point. Just point out you run your mouth a lot when you have not read or researched the topic you spout off on. At the top you chided him for not giving the lower and middle class lower taxes, and just that of the rich. Now you are bitching he is giving the poor and middle class lower to no taxes.

Then you bitch about him not saying details. And then totally ignore his policy papers on immigration, 2nd amendment and today on taxes. You might disagree with his plans, and that is totally fine, and your right to vote accordingly. But don't be disingenuous and say he has no plans. He has far more detailed plans in the public right now than any candidate. But then again I know you don't actually know that because you base everything you know off 30 second blips on the radio or background in the news, then run your mouth like you know all the ins and out of everything. Not just politics, everything.

[Rochard]

I stand corrected. Turns out a lot more people than I ever imagined do not pay taxes.

But many of those families already pay no federal taxes. Roughly 45% of American households will not owe any federal income taxes this year under the existing tax code, according to Tax Policy Center estimates. Trump said his plan will ensure a slightly larger share -- more than 50% of households -- pay no federal income tax.

"Some of what Mr. Trump has done in his press conference is just sell us on one of the better features of what our income tax already does," said Alan Cole, an economist at the Tax Foundation. "It will probably add to the number of people who don't have to pay any income tax. That was already true of many people and he's just expanding the number of people."

Business as usual for politics.

(news linkie)

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I stand corrected. Turns out a lot more people than I ever imagined do not pay taxes.

But many of those families already pay no federal taxes. Roughly 45% of American households will not owe any federal income taxes this year under the existing tax code, according to Tax Policy Center estimates. Trump said his plan will ensure a slightly larger share -- more than 50% of households -- pay no federal income tax.

"Some of what Mr. Trump has done in his press conference is just sell us on one of the better features of what our income tax already does," said Alan Cole, an economist at the Tax Foundation. "It will probably add to the number of people who don't have to pay any income tax. That was already true of many people and he's just expanding the number of people."

Business as usual for politics.

(news linkie)

Yes about half the country will only save $1k a year in taxes, plus the cost of filing and stress etc. They would have to send in a one page piece of paper.

The big break for the middle class is families with $50-100k in earnings. They would pay 10%. That is a big savings. Currently if you make just under $19k a year you pay 10%.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Rochard

No, they don't. This is why Warren Buffet pays less in taxes than his secretary. They might be taxed at a higher rate, but they have more loopholes. You see, his secretary makes $x per year and has a certain percentage of taxes taken out. But Warren Buffet pays for her company car, and writes that off as an expense. Same thing with his limo and his limo driver. When your car breaks down you pay to fix it. When Warren Buffet's secretary's car breaks down, it's a business expense he'll write off.

Warren Buffet does not pay less than his secretary.

[TrashyGirl]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I can honestly say I hope he is elected - he would be the most entertaining president we'll ever have.

And if elected, his wife will be the most entertaining First Lady we'll ever have...

[SuckOnThis]

Bloomberg: Donald Trump?s Tax Plan Is a Total Fraud


CNBC: Trump tax plan may help the rich more than Bush's




And for all you Trump fan boys still undecided about a Halloween costume here ya go...





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[pornguy]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Did you think you were posting from another nickname?

As for Trump tax, he sounds smart as always:



Trump power

He states it will create jobs. Will it be enough to off set the losses from IRS. Flat tax means less auditors and employees over all.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Less taxes for the rich. Surprise.



A flat tax for EVERYONE would be great.

This means that the average family would pay less in taxes. However, it means the rich would pay a lot more taxes because there wouldn't be any loopholes. But of course there will be massive loopholes; There always is.

you're clueless on taxes for the top

[Coup]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...-good-reasons/

A flat tax does literally nothing for the economy.