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brassmonkey · 10-26-2015, 12:56 PM

An undocumented immigrant has been denied a visa into the United States to reunite with his U.S.-citizen wife and children based on tattoos that U.S. consulate officials in Mexico say are gang-related, according to the NY Daily News.

Ruben Zamora crossed the southern United States border from Mexico at the age of 8 and illegally lived in the country until he was 29. He married U.S.-citizen Vanessa Ruiz in 2009 and the pair have two U.S.-born children under the age of ten. In 2014, attorneys told Zamora to return to Mexico so that he could begin his immigrant visa process to become a legal permanent resident in the United States after marrying his U.S.-citizen wife. But the U.S. consulate in Mexico has since barred his re-entry because they claim that he has gang tattoos.

?My kids, like every day they ask me for their dad? When is he coming back and I don?t have an answer for them,? Vanessa Ruiz told the NY Daily News. She added, ?He?s no gang member. He?s always been working.?

In an email sent to his lawyers last week, the U.S. State Department said that the consulate?s decision was based on ?more than mere suspicion, noting that ?it is a probability, supported by the facts, that the alien is a member of an organized criminal entity.? The email added that new evidence proving Zamora?s innocence would help change the consulate?s ruling.

Ruiz said that her husband got his tattoos when he was a teenager and that the symbols weren?t gang-related at the time. She also stated that her husband left his group after they became involved in gang activity.

U.S. State Department officials say that they don?t deny visas based on tattoos. But consular officers sometimes do consider certain tattoos as ?a display of symbols of the organization or maybe as a form of acknowledgment by the individual of his membership in the organized crime group,? Asian Journal reported.

Stringent federal immigration laws aimed at protecting public safety have ensnared tattooed immigrants ? who otherwise don?t have criminal records ? in immigration limbo.

In a case similar to Zamora?s, a man named Hector Villalobos left Colorado for Mexico for an interview as part of his application for U.S. permanent residency. He got stuck in Mexico because his tattoos have gang origins ? although lawyers and criminologists explained that at least two of his tattoos, a pair of theatrical masks known as ?Smile Now, Cry Later? and another one that includes three-dot triangles to refer to ?my crazy life,? have been adopted by the wider public. Another Mexican national married to a U.S. citizen was denied a visa because of his ?smiling-face-frowning-face? tattoo that he got before he entered the United States at the age of 14.

Mexican Immigrant Denied Re-Entry Into U.S. Over Tattoos | ThinkProgress

JFK · 10-26-2015, 12:58 PM

"got his tattoos when he was a teenager and that the symbols weren?t gang-related at the time. She also stated that her husband left his group after they became involved in gang activity."

L-Pink · 10-26-2015, 01:00 PM

Good call.

brassmonkey · 10-26-2015, 02:23 PM

the article writer feels sorry for him.

Socks · 10-26-2015, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

"got his tattoos when he was a teenager and that the symbols weren?t gang-related at the time. She also stated that her husband left his group after they became involved in gang activity."

Some cartels in Mexico formed as secret civilian groups to rise up against the gangs in their area. It's not so cut and dry. There's no police to help.

For example, from wikipedia:

Ethical Code[edit]

The Knights Templar cartel was founded on a strict ethical code[13] developed by La Tuta. The code is contained in a small book that is handed out to all members of the cartel and even to the public. The book is decorated with knights on horseback with lances and crosses. The 22 page book is titled "The Code of the Knights Templar of Michoacan" and contains the rules and regulations of the gang.[14] The gang has based its rules on those of the European Knights Templar.

Members swear to help the poor and helpless, fight against materialism, respect women and children, not kill for money, and not use drugs. The Knights even go as far as drug testing all members.[15] While the cartel has moved more towards accepting criminal acts prohibited by the ethical code, breaking the code can still incur punishment by death.

escorpio · 10-26-2015, 02:41 PM

We should send Crips to Africa. They would love it there.

brassmonkey · 10-26-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Some cartels in Mexico formed as secret civilian groups to rise up against the gangs in their area. It's not so cut and dry. There's no police to help.

For example, from wikipedia:

Ethical Code[edit]

The Knights Templar cartel was founded on a strict ethical code[13] developed by La Tuta. The code is contained in a small book that is handed out to all members of the cartel and even to the public. The book is decorated with knights on horseback with lances and crosses. The 22 page book is titled "The Code of the Knights Templar of Michoacan" and contains the rules and regulations of the gang.[14] The gang has based its rules on those of the European Knights Templar.

Members swear to help the poor and helpless, fight against materialism, respect women and children, not kill for money, and not use drugs. The Knights even go as far as drug testing all members.[15] While the cartel has moved more towards accepting criminal acts prohibited by the ethical code, breaking the code can still incur punishment by death.

cartels want gangs to be more mafia. less shootings. this is not true! cartels shootout in the middle of town killing police and citizens. I went to chihuahua mexico with my father in law never heard one gunshot thank god. don't think i will go again. I could not sleep.

brassmonkey · 10-26-2015, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

We should send Crips to Africa. They would love it there.

you are a pest! you defend mexican gangs! coming from the arizona/mexico border not a surprise. the mexican hariet tubman probably.

escorpio · 10-26-2015, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you are a pest! you defend mexican gangs! coming from the arizona/mexico border not a surprise. the mexican hariet tubman probably.

I didn't defend Mexican gangs, I simply pointed out it would be nice if we could deport gang members to a place that would appreciate their skill set.

brassmonkey · 10-26-2015, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

I didn't defend Mexican gangs, I simply pointed out it would be nice if we could deport gang members to a place that would appreciate their skill set.

go smuggle some ms 13 dogg

escorpio · 10-26-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

go smuggle some ms 13 dogg

Not living in AZ at the present time.

brassmonkey · 10-26-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Not living in AZ at the present time.

not trying to attack you. just we have too many gangs here now. having tats on his face was a deal breaker.

escorpio · 10-26-2015, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

not trying to attack you. just we have too many gangs here now. having tats on his face was a deal breaker.

Crips don't like competition?

brassmonkey · 10-26-2015, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Crips don't like competition?

crips don't swim across a river to get here.

know what im sayin?

Horatio Caine · 10-26-2015, 03:24 PM

And that makes them less of criminal? God you are so fucking stupid monkey.

escorpio · 10-26-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

crips don't swim across a river to get here.

know what im sayin?

A gang is a gang. Who cares how they got here?

brassmonkey · 10-26-2015, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

A gang is a gang. Who cares how they got here?

the topic you seem to go off of like normal.

CurrentlySober · 10-26-2015, 03:37 PM

i cunt a4d a tattoo...

escorpio · 10-26-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

the topic you seem to go off of like normal.

Gangs the topic is.

nico-t · 10-26-2015, 04:23 PM

when brasshat is low on sig pennies, a copy and paste spree is released on gfy

crockett · 10-26-2015, 04:32 PM

Perhaps the wife and kid should move to Mexico to be with him..

Horatio Caine · 10-26-2015, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Gangs the topic is.

Honestly, I don't think he reads his own articles.

He has 6 more days until us government deposits his "restitution" money to EBT account.

shake · 10-26-2015, 08:02 PM

"always been working" he should have no problem showing his tax records then to show he's a good member of society.

DBS.US · 10-26-2015, 08:07 PM

Lets see a photo,

couchsurfer · 10-26-2015, 09:14 PM

Hopefully this article gets out there so that people see how stupid it is to get gang related tatoos or tatoos that basically say "I'm a badass". It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.

If you truly want to be a badass then go join a boxing gym or a mma gym. A tatoo doesn't make you stronger or faster or more badass. It just makes you look like a lowlife.

RyuLion · 10-26-2015, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by couchsurfer

Hopefully this article gets out there so that people see how stupid it is to get gang related tatoos or tatoos that basically say "I'm a badass". It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.

If you truly want to be a badass then go join a boxing gym or a mma gym. A tatoo doesn't make you stronger or faster or more badass. It just makes you look like a lowlife.

They won't learn till it hits them man, after they get married, have children, etc. Most of them grow up in those neighborhoods, in poverty, and don't have a choice..

People are quick to judge just to look cool to the rest of the crowd.

brassmonkey · 10-27-2015, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Perhaps the wife and kid should move to Mexico to be with him..

but they don't want to live there

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

Lets see a photo,

hotlinked

j/k that first photo is his can't find a face. he has a smile now cry later where a teardrop would be and some other stuff.

brassmonkey · 10-27-2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

mexican Gangs the topic is.

fixed that read the title!

Horatio Caine · 10-27-2015, 10:23 AM

This african tattooed himself in a sleep.

escorpio · 10-27-2015, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

fixed that read the title!

Race only matters to racists! Are you a racist?

brassmonkey · 10-27-2015, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Race only matters to racists! Are you a racist?

no! my kids are half hispanic. my father in law is from chihuahua mexico on a work visa. don't go there you know that.

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