It is amazing how incredibly shitty Windows still is after all these years

[2MuchMark]

Please PC Lovers, for your own sanity, productivity and happiness, consider a Mac next time you need a new computer.

I switched from PC's to Mac back in 2009 and have been a happy puppy ever since. This week though I had to buy a PC for a special project (Alienware "Area 51", 32GB Ram, Nvidia GForce graphics, and Windows 10 pre installed on an SSD Drive.

Oh my god, what total, utter crap. I can't believe that you still have to install drivers for every little thing you want to do. I can't believe that you still have to visit manufacturers websites and sift through tons of crap just to find the driver you need. I can't believe that the latest drivers still suck, and you have to go back to the one before it.

Even connecting 2 monitors is a chore. You have to connect it, hope Windows sees it, click, click and click again to get it to the right or native size and resolution. Unplugging 1 monitor when you decide you want to switch primary and secondary monitor connections is still a major pain in the ass. Primary monitor no longer connected? Window says "I know! I'll just sit and do nothing and date not even dream about reorganizing and switching what was the secondary monitor back to primary. WTF.

Here's how simple a Mac is. Plug it in, turn it on, everything is there. Software updates are in 1 place, with download functions built right into the OS. Reboot after a driver update? Almost never. Connecting / disconnecting / swapping monitors? Fast, instant, no hang-ups, no crashes. Wireless displays? EFFORTLESS. Connecting mics and speakers? SIMPLE.

I have no choice but to use Windows for the project and I'm sure I'll figure out all the endless stupidities that (Still) is Windows. It's just a shame that so much time has already been wasted. I feel totally bad for every Windows PC user still stuck in the stone age.

[Harmon]

I can do this with my PC.

[MaDalton]

My mother said the same

[blackmonsters]

I have a Mac also.
Nevertheless, you mad bro!

[dyna mo]

Prolly took longer and required more effort to make this thread and write all that than it took your machine to download and install some drivers.

[MiamiBoyz]

[arock10]

Id go back to Mac if they brought back OS 9. OS X is when I switched to PC

[Rochard]

Um.... I am a full on PC guy and.... Cannot remember the last time I had to install a driver. It's all automatic these days. Has been for years.

Multiple monitors? All of my PCs run multiple monitors, including my laptops. Hell, even my M$ Surface runs multiple monitors. Until just recently all my computers ran Win7. Multiple monitors was not an issue - Just plug the monitor in and it works. If you need to change the settings, right click on the desktop and quickly change the settings.



My back up PC is the exact computer you described - Alienware "Area 51". Never had a problem, never had to install drivers, never had to install monitors or anything - just plug them in.

Windows used to be a chore. Everything was complicated and difficult. Now it's all just plug and play.

Now for iPhones.... NEVER AGAIN. EVER. We have four phones, two of them iPhones, and the only phones we have problems with is.... IPhones. One iPhone is currently not working, the other has a cracked screen - again.

[mineistaken]

Maybe because it is not a close system with all the limitations?
Same as iphone vs android. Androids do not run that smooth because there are thousands of different hardware variations.
Limiting that is not necessary a good thing.

[dyna mo]

The funny and revealing part of this thread is the fact the Apple box couldn't get the job done, forcing the op to buy a pc to handle the work.

[Ferus]

Even Donny Long could operate a PC. You really must be one retarded fuckup if you cant keep up with him.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by arock10

Id go back to Mac if they brought back OS 9. OS X is when I switched to PC

..................why?

[Bryan G]

You're a Mac guy??? We would have never guessed! Next you're going to tell us you drive an electric car!!

[MK Ultra]

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

The funny and revealing part of this thread is the fact the Apple box couldn't get the job done, forcing the op to buy a pc to handle the work.

Hahahaha, um, no. We just need to make sure that a Windows app we'll be releasing soon will work. I get to be the final tester. Yay.

Originally Posted by Bryan G

You're a Mac guy??? We would have never guessed! Next you're going to tell us you drive an electric car!!

Bahahahahahaha. Douche.

Everyone else: Fuckoffff! Since my nice clean perfect mac environment is now polluted with ugly stinky windows crap, you don't get to call me a sheep(le).

Here's another STUPID thing about Windows. Uninstalling a program takes 3, 4 or 5 clicks. What? Second Life took 7 clicks to delete. "Are you sure? Are you really sure? Hey are you truly sure? I don't think you're sure. Are you really fucking sure? OK then... "

When want to uninstall something on a Mac, you just drag and drop it onto the recycle bin icon, and its done. So fast, so simple.

Oh and I forgot to mention that Windows crashed twice. My Mac's *Never* crash.

So anyway : Windows still sucks. Mac Rules. I am *stunned* that Windows hasn't improved their shitty OS in all this time. Windows 10 is just like Windows Vista with a slightly better (but not by much) interface, and just about as reliable as Windows 95. Sucks sucks sucks.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

Hahahaha, um, no. We just need to make sure that a Windows app we'll be releasing soon will work. I get to be the final tester. Yay.

come on. you dind't have to buy an alienware area 51 with ssd and umpteen rams and blah blah to test your app.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by **********

Oh and I forgot to mention that Windows crashed twice. My Mac's *Never* crash.

Again - it is easy to not crash when you have just few hardware options + only optimized programs and apps.
It is completely different with windows - so many programs, so many hardware options.

[dyna mo]

raggin on a new alienware area 51,......... send it to me since it's so shitty.....

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by **********

Hahahaha, um, no. We just need to make sure that a Windows app we'll be releasing soon will work. I get to be the final tester. Yay.



Bahahahahahaha. Douche.

Everyone else: Fuckoffff! Since my nice clean perfect mac environment is now polluted with ugly stinky windows crap, you don't get to call me a sheep(le).

Here's another STUPID thing about Windows. Uninstalling a program takes 3, 4 or 5 clicks. What? Second Life took 7 clicks to delete. "Are you sure? Are you really sure? Hey are you truly sure? I don't think you're sure. Are you really fucking sure? OK then... "

When want to uninstall something on a Mac, you just drag and drop it onto the recycle bin icon, and its done. So fast, so simple.

Oh and I forgot to mention that Windows crashed twice. My Mac's *Never* crash.

So anyway : Windows still sucks. Mac Rules. I am *stunned* that Windows hasn't improved their shitty OS in all this time. Windows 10 is just like Windows Vista with a slightly better (but not by much) interface, and just about as reliable as Windows 95. Sucks sucks sucks.

I use a Mac as well but don't feel the need to keep telling the world I do. The only douche here is you. You're such an annoying cunt.

[j3rkules]

Originally Posted by Harmon

I can do this with my PC.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by **********

Please PC Lovers, for your own sanity, productivity and happiness, consider a Mac next time you need a new computer.

I switched from PC's to Mac back in 2009 and have been a happy puppy ever since. This week though I had to buy a PC for a special project (Alienware "Area 51", 32GB Ram, Nvidia GForce graphics, and Windows 10 pre installed on an SSD Drive.

Oh my god, what total, utter crap. I can't believe that you still have to install drivers for every little thing you want to do. I can't believe that you still have to visit manufacturers websites and sift through tons of crap just to find the driver you need. I can't believe that the latest drivers still suck, and you have to go back to the one before it.

Even connecting 2 monitors is a chore. You have to connect it, hope Windows sees it, click, click and click again to get it to the right or native size and resolution. Unplugging 1 monitor when you decide you want to switch primary and secondary monitor connections is still a major pain in the ass. Primary monitor no longer connected? Window says "I know! I'll just sit and do nothing and date not even dream about reorganizing and switching what was the secondary monitor back to primary. WTF.

Here's how simple a Mac is. Plug it in, turn it on, everything is there. Software updates are in 1 place, with download functions built right into the OS. Reboot after a driver update? Almost never. Connecting / disconnecting / swapping monitors? Fast, instant, no hang-ups, no crashes. Wireless displays? EFFORTLESS. Connecting mics and speakers? SIMPLE.

I have no choice but to use Windows for the project and I'm sure I'll figure out all the endless stupidities that (Still) is Windows. It's just a shame that so much time has already been wasted. I feel totally bad for every Windows PC user still stuck in the stone age.

No problems here with windows. Wireless, mics, speakers, monitors, everything connects immediately & I never have problems with updates & drivers.

We're still on 7 & do not want to click the upgrade button

[woj]

Originally Posted by **********

Hahahaha, um, no. We just need to make sure that a Windows app we'll be releasing soon will work. I get to be the final tester. Yay.

you are supposed to test stuff on low end equipment, same equipment your users are likely to use... it's pointless to test performance/responsiveness/etc on a high end pc...

[MaDalton]

i consider this a troll post anyways

[Sly]

Funny. I never have any driver issues with my Windows 10 computers. None. Zero.

The last OSX update totally fucked my drivers on multiple products and I'm still waiting on the vendors to support the new update. This is multiple companies that have yet to do this. I like my Mac quite a bit, but this is total horse shit that their high-profiled update has made the software and hardware of so many companies literally unusable. This is not a situation of "oh, it's a pain to use." This is a situation of: IT DOESN'T WORK

My mistake for updating so soon, will never do that again, but here we are a month later and I still can't touch thousands of dollars worth of hardware and software.

No. It doesn't "just work."

[robwod]

We have both (including desktops, laptops, tablets and phones). Honestly, both can get the job done just fine for whatever you want to do and both work quite well.

I do find Windows offers a lot more freedom of choice and for significantly less money to accomplish the same thing. But I don't think one is necessarily better than the other, rather it's more a case of what one prefers.

Then again, I never had a problem with VISTA, Windows 8, or Windows 10 either.

Insofar as a multi-monitor environment, I run a 4 monitor display on Windows 10 with absolute ease of setup. Not this specific one, but a similar setup nonetheless. I'm using a higher quality ATI card with EyeFinity and a Windows 10 machine. It is awfully easy to set up.

Zenview Apex 27 Ultrathin: Four-Screen Professional Display with Top-Quality 27" LCD Screens, Thin Bezels, Wide Viewing Angles

I'm not sure what you're having problems with Mark... but setting up a multi-monitor display in Windows is ridiculously easy. Perhaps you're just so used to MAC removing your input from the setup process?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Prolly took longer and required more effort to make this thread and write all that than it took your machine to download and install some drivers.

I can type nearly 200 words a minute. But yeah, I downloaded the latest drivers.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

come on. you dind't have to buy an alienware area 51 with ssd and umpteen rams and blah blah to test your app.

Actually, yes. It's for a client, and its really CPU and GPU intensive. The extra Ram is not really required but Ram is cheap and it helps with Windows performance.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

raggin on a new alienware area 51,......... send it to me since it's so shitty.....

The machine itself is fine - its the OS that sucks. I wish I could run OS/X on it. To Alienware's credit, it's a nice computer. Nice case, runs cool, and quieter than I expected.

Originally Posted by Bryan G

I use a Mac as well but don't feel the need to keep telling the world I do. The only douche here is you. You're such an annoying cunt.

Aren't you Bryan Gozzling?

Originally Posted by woj

you are supposed to test stuff on low end equipment, same equipment your users are likely to use... it's pointless to test performance/responsiveness/etc on a high end pc...

Normally yes, but its a special app that would only run on high end PC's anyway, and this machine is almost the same as what the client has, except that his Graphics card is is different, and he has 2 of them.

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i consider this a troll post anyways

Part troll, part rant, all true.

Originally Posted by robwod

Insofar as a multi-monitor environment, I run a 4 monitor display on Windows 10 with absolute ease of setup. Not this specific one, but a similar setup nonetheless. I'm using a higher quality ATI card with EyeFinity and a Windows 10 machine. It is awfully easy to set up.

I'm not sure what you're having problems with Mark... but setting up a multi-monitor display in Windows is ridiculously easy. Perhaps you're just so used to MAC removing your input from the setup process?

First I agree with you - when I was running windows on PC's years ago, I had 3 and sometimes 4 monitors all connected at the same time, with a variety of different cards too. Really easy to setup and use.

But maybe its just this particular graphics card. #1, it didn't always see the other monitor. The card itself has a PCI connector, 1 standard HDMI connector, and 3 other connectors. My primary monitor in the PCI connector worked but the HDMI did not. While debugging, I disconnected the PCI monitor completely and tried running from HDMI, which initially failed, but eventually worked, after rebooting. (On a Mac, adding and removing monitors is sensed by the OS and things adjust instantly, but not on Windows apparently, which prompted my post).

But anyway, in the end I got everything worked out. I still think Windows sucks. Partly because it does, and partly because I'm so used to Mac.

Peace.

[Acepimp]

A Mac is clearly the better choice. If you're a clueless middle school girl.

[Paul&John]

Haven't had a single driver issue since Windows 7, also no probs with multiple monitor setup..

[XMaster]

I always worked on PC. Then I bought an Imac. Because it was nice. Because I believed iMac was powerful, simple and reliable.

Since I regret it every day. It's expensive. It doesn't work properly (internet connection failed I never had with a PC, can drive a printer correctly etc..)

Yes, they're beautiful. But beautiful is not enough

Next time, I'll buy a PC.

Oh and btw, I switched from iPhone to Android phone and I'm fucking happy with it ^^

[filipus891]

i have been a PC fan since 1996 as i never knew anything else. About 2 month ago i started working with a mac, for work. Since then i discovered the easiest most intuitive way of operating a system. not to say that the hardware itself is lovely. new mac lover here!

[MrBottomTooth]

What the hell is a pci connector? There's hdmi, display port, dvi, VGA. It sounds more and more like incompetence on your part. Pci express is the internal slot you install the video card in. Has nothing to do with connecting the monitor.

None of my computers have ever had an issue sensing when multiple monitors are connected / disconnected.

[j3rkules]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

[Den BongaCash]

The same. Never had any issues with PC. Automatic update and multiple monitor setup is a breeze.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by **********

Please PC Lovers, for your own sanity, productivity and happiness, consider a Mac next time you need a new computer.

I switched from PC's to Mac back in 2009 and have been a happy puppy ever since. This week though I had to buy a PC for a special project (Alienware "Area 51", 32GB Ram, Nvidia GForce graphics, and Windows 10 pre installed on an SSD Drive.

Oh my god, what total, utter crap. I can't believe that you still have to install drivers for every little thing you want to do. I can't believe that you still have to visit manufacturers websites and sift through tons of crap just to find the driver you need. I can't believe that the latest drivers still suck, and you have to go back to the one before it.

Even connecting 2 monitors is a chore. You have to connect it, hope Windows sees it, click, click and click again to get it to the right or native size and resolution. Unplugging 1 monitor when you decide you want to switch primary and secondary monitor connections is still a major pain in the ass. Primary monitor no longer connected? Window says "I know! I'll just sit and do nothing and date not even dream about reorganizing and switching what was the secondary monitor back to primary. WTF.

Here's how simple a Mac is. Plug it in, turn it on, everything is there. Software updates are in 1 place, with download functions built right into the OS. Reboot after a driver update? Almost never. Connecting / disconnecting / swapping monitors? Fast, instant, no hang-ups, no crashes. Wireless displays? EFFORTLESS. Connecting mics and speakers? SIMPLE.

I have no choice but to use Windows for the project and I'm sure I'll figure out all the endless stupidities that (Still) is Windows. It's just a shame that so much time has already been wasted. I feel totally bad for every Windows PC user still stuck in the stone age.

this is what mac users look like to the rest of the world.. fyi

[astronaut x]

Yea, Windows sucks. I build websites on an abacus. Takes me longer, but....